tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
the WR is a stud. i watched some of the Texas A&M game and he caught everything.
the rest are propped up by the offense. WR is gone and QB is a senior so I imagine Dykes is ready to bolt. 11/28/2012 12:07:46 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, just pointing out how prolific the offense must be in general...not saying it's best ever...just how it will compare to pro style
an offense like that will truly open up the run w/ the passing
for pg 14
Quote : | "Stats on Colby Cameron - QB at LT for 12 games this year
359/522, 68.8%, 4147 Yards, 31 TD, 5 INT, 153.2 Ratiing
They also had a 1,000 yard rusher and another w/ over 700 yards....total team rushing was 2,726 yards, compared to NCSU 1,403 yards
one WR also had 1,392 yards rec on 104 freaking receptions
" |
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:11 AM. Reason : edit]11/28/2012 12:09:12 AM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Has a head coach ever returned to a school as an assistant? Just curious." |
Not a school anecdote, but this reminded me of Dave Campo for the Cowboys. Head Coach for a few years in Dallas and later came back as a defensive assistant.11/28/2012 12:12:37 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lol of course the coordinators bring recruits. The brand name doesnt matter that much. Look what james franklin and charlie strong have been able to do." |
Yeah that #72 recruiting class for Louisville is pretty sick. And a fucking monkey could recruit stud defensive players to Alabama right now.11/28/2012 12:14:52 AM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Lol are you looking at this year where they only have like 14 spots to fill? The retarded rankings you are looking at reward quantity over quality. Take a look at past classes dumbshit. 11/28/2012 12:26:09 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
You realize posting "lol" at the beginning of every post makes you look like a retarded teenage girl right? And Louisville was #42 and #29 the previous two years, nobody is creaming their pants over that either. 11/28/2012 12:30:09 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
l'ville wouldnt be shit if miami hadnt fucked up during the randy shannon/al golden transition and lost teddy bridgwater 11/28/2012 12:33:24 AM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
I usually start off with responding to you with a laugh because you obv are all up on my nuts and try to troll me when you can.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM. Reason : Just telling it how it is] 11/28/2012 12:38:35 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Is that supposed to be a retort? It's pretty fucking sorry regardless. You respond to facts and reason with garbage on a regular basis. 11/28/2012 12:41:47 AM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Garbage would be a pretty accurate term to use for your response to my original charlie strong post. 11/28/2012 12:54:07 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Back on topic.
I can appreciate that La Tech has a great offense, and Dykes was taught by Leach, but does anyone really want him as the head coach? And is he someone that the fan base can really get excited about?
Think the only way we go with Dykes, is if Yow has some high-profile coordinators/recruiters to partner him with(like she did with Gott). I understand recruiting isn't so easy at La Tech, but I want someone who knows what it takes to go out and recruit against big schools for 4 and 5-star players and actually give us a shot at landing 2-3 a year. I don't want another TOB who will be happy with 2 and 3-star players that "fit the system". 11/28/2012 7:47:21 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^^Strong hasn't landed a top 25 class according to scout or rivals since becoming the head coach at Louisville. It's sometimes hard to believe that you are really this dumb.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 7:52 AM. Reason : .] 11/28/2012 7:51:50 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
FWIW Dykes recruited Michael Crabtree & Taylor Potts to Texas Tech 11/28/2012 8:58:40 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
11/28/2012 9:09:49 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
more rumors ... 11/28/2012 9:20:23 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I want someone who knows what it takes to go out and recruit against big schools for 4 and 5-star players and actually give us a shot at landing 2-3 a year. I don't want another TOB who will be happy with 2 and 3-star players that "fit the system"" |
EXACTLY.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM. Reason : .]11/28/2012 9:59:03 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
According to Rivals, TOB got fourteen 4/5*s between 2008 and 2012 (only Robert Crisp was a 5*).
So that averages to almost 3 a season. Just saying. 11/28/2012 10:17:41 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BobbyDigital: what's Reggie Herring up to these days?" |
LB coach for the texans, following wade phillips around. when wade took a leave earlier this year, herring was DC for a game.
the more you know.11/28/2012 11:13:19 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Is Dykes that much better than TOB besides the fact that he is younger?
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 11:28 AM. Reason : and I mean worth paying him double and firing a decent coach better] 11/28/2012 11:26:22 AM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
TOB was a decent coach? Sorry, but I think after this season that's a hard sell. 11/28/2012 11:33:01 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Boobs continuing to spout the fuck off w/o knowing what the hell he is talking about. Welcome to Sports Talk for the past 5 years. 11/28/2012 11:37:19 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TOB was a decent coach? Sorry, but I think after this season that's a hard sell." |
Don't be stupid like usual. If he was still coaching and won the bowl game, it would be 8+ wins three years in a row for the first time since Lou Holtz.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]11/28/2012 11:46:45 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
he wasn't good enough, our goals are higher, you're wrong and the AD agrees you're wrong... move on 11/28/2012 11:50:19 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Our goals are so much higher that we may be hiring a coach with a worse record the last three years playing in the WAC? Sorry that I don't see Dykes as that much improvement. He's 22-15 in three years in the WAC. Derek Dooley went from LaTech to UT and failed miserably. Sorry for the obvious riskiness in this hire. 11/28/2012 11:53:14 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "8+ wins three years in a row for the first time since Lou Holtz" |
Again, stop saying this. It's already been shredded as a false analogy, what, a hundred times on here?11/28/2012 11:58:21 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
move on 11/28/2012 11:59:12 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Move on? I'm discussing Sonny Dykes, the supposed favorite right no. I can't get excited about a coach whose team just gave up 48 to Utah State and 52 to San Jose State. I'm not buying the hype. Sure his offense is explosive, but his D is non-existent. LaTech makes Archer's scheme look good.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason : I'll support the hire, but he needs a damn good DC] 11/28/2012 12:02:09 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Do you not expect him to have more money to hire a better D Coordinator when/if Dykes comes here? Debbie seems to be all about getting a coach the right staff, I would expect them to go put together a staff the same way they did for bball. 11/28/2012 12:07:10 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that's really working out for our b-ball team's defense 11/28/2012 12:09:08 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
maybe we can retain Tenuta 11/28/2012 12:10:05 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^^You would think so, plus he should be bringing his OC Tony Franklin with him. I guess we will see.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM. Reason : ^don't think so, Tenuta is overrated and doesn't recruit] 11/28/2012 12:10:08 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be ok being the Texas Tech of the ACC.
That's at least good enough for a division title once every decade, right?
Better than anything we've had since 1979l 11/28/2012 12:18:33 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I see Boozie's point. What justifies firing TOB and throwing a lot more money at Dykes? Why is he any better than TOB, except age?
Unlike some "fans", I'll support the team no matter what, but I'm seriously wondering what Debbie sees in him, I know little about him.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM. Reason : ] 11/28/2012 12:24:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is Dykes that much better than TOB besides the fact that he is younger?" |
I mean, he led the nation in offense this year, and we all know what kind of high powered offenses he had at Texas Tech11/28/2012 12:29:28 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
I don't doubt we'd have the resources to get a better DC than what he has at La Tech. 11/28/2012 12:30:57 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^thanks, i don't know much about him and haven't regularly followed this thread. 11/28/2012 12:31:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
the way i look at it, as bad as the Clemson loss was, it was a fun game to watch
hopefully our defense will improve, but if we can get offensive performances like that on a semi-regular basis, the team will be fun to watch, and should be competitive 11/28/2012 12:33:18 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
ahhh packboozie trollin without knowing it 11/28/2012 12:33:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
mr. boobs, what is your well informed opinion of dykes and his potential hiring? 11/28/2012 12:34:56 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I actually wouldn't want Tenuta as our DC. If we could keep him in his current capacity, then by all means keep him on board. But Tenuta has a stigma of being a bad recruiter but a defensive genius. We need some strong defensive recruiters, I'm sure the DC at La Tech isn't bad, but I imagine he doesn't have a bevy of talent to work with. 11/28/2012 12:39:23 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
you know i prefer a defense-minded HC. High powered offenses are a dime a dozen in NCAA FB.
Being able to put together a defense like Kirby Smart or Diaco is much more impressive on the collegiate level.
I'm not a huge fan of dykes, but I'd rather have him over Chad Morris or some other east coast OC 11/28/2012 12:40:51 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
At our level, with our competition, and our goals, a high powered offense with at least a decent defense will go far. I'd love to see a CTC type defense again, as it is very exciting to watch. The top tier teams rely on great defense to win... but that is likely slowly changing with spread offenses. We can win the ACC on this type of model; UNC probably isn't far behind if they get their defense up a notch or two. 11/28/2012 12:52:19 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, I think it's much easier to find a high-powered offense these days than a strong D. I too would prefer to land someone like Smart and then bring in a solid OC, heck even Dana Bible put up about 25-30 a game this year.
I just don't know if Smart could land the same caliber players on D here that he landed in the SEC. Then again we could have a really formidable team if we just kept the best players in NC in the state and picked up a few solid players from VA and SC. 11/28/2012 12:59:35 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Need a florida coach to get florida players. That's one of the few things that CTC had going for him. 11/28/2012 1:01:13 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing he had going for him. 11/28/2012 1:14:16 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "heck even Dana Bible put up about 25-30 a game this year." |
but thats still only 71st in the nation.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/152/north-carolina-state-wolfpack11/28/2012 1:34:08 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Our goals are so much higher that we may be hiring a coach with a worse record the last three years playing in the WAC? Sorry that I don't see Dykes as that much improvement. He's 22-15 in three years in the WAC. Derek Dooley went from LaTech to UT and failed miserably. Sorry for the obvious riskiness in this hire." |
............
Dykes was 5-7 his first year there and improved his record every year after. Saying he had a worse record than TOB is pretty reductive.
Derek Dooley was 17-20 there btw, with only 1 winning season.11/28/2012 1:43:47 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
The Dyke inherited a terrible team and went 5-7 in his first year because of it.
Since then he coached LaTech to a 8-5 season and first place in their conference and lost against a vastly more talented #18 TCU in a bowl game by only one score. Then this year, LaTech finished 9-3 and was one OT loss away from another conference championship, plus had the highest PPG of any team in the country, the fourth highest passing YPG and the 17th highest rushing YPG. 11/28/2012 2:35:38 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html
Check out Northern Illinois ranks. Dave Doeren > Dykes > Morris. And he's the youngest of the three.
[Edited on November 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM. Reason : V I hope not] 11/28/2012 2:54:06 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
ok, the conversation is now 100% about Sonny "Corleone" Dykes.
Is he the only possibility at this point? 11/28/2012 3:01:46 PM |