in

3/29/2006 12:57:05 AM

once it said connected, i clicked cancel, THEN, it let me in.

fuck you blizzard, that was not cool.

3/29/2006 12:58:49 AM

That's what I had to do as well. Wasted 20 mins before I figured it out.

3/29/2006 1:07:17 AM

rep in ab is now every 200 and flag rep is 36 now Ibelieve.

oh and randomly.... not sure if we were incredibly lucky or if they really did significantly up drop rates in the instances. I was forced into helping a friends alt in ubrs and we get mastersmith girdle, both dalrend's, ace of beasts, and painweaver off drak + 2 others. was a very decent run. Oh and there's also only 3 packs in drakk's room now.

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 9:15 AM. Reason : ..]

3/29/2006 9:13:12 AM

WSG token turn ins are still only 50 rep per three.
The counter arguement to this is to cap more flags, but when you are consistantly being farmed by preforms in BWL epix then it makes it a bit tough.

At least I hit Knight-Champion. Two (maybe three) more weeks and I am done with the grind and can just focus on rep.

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 9:25 AM. Reason : EPEEN]

3/29/2006 9:24:56 AM

I realized that the thing about the patch I'm most excited about seeing.... is the weather.

Does this mean I suck at life??

(i even play a priest)

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 9:56 AM. Reason : .]

3/29/2006 9:56:27 AM

pretty sure you can go outside later today or tomorrow and see some rain.

3/29/2006 9:58:30 AM

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-mugthol&t=26419&p=1&tmp=1#post26419

One of the worst examples of corruption in guilds.

3/29/2006 10:12:12 AM

Quote :

"If an officer all new and deemed valuable loot is generally always first considered for officers"

Corruption you say? Noooooo, how could that be......

3/29/2006 12:11:23 PM

Hmmm, since I am an epic elite, i think its time i start giving people the shaft.

3/29/2006 3:14:36 PM

THE SMART WOW ECONOMIST:

a week ago, would have purchased every tier zero piece at the AH they could (wildheart, magister, ect)

and today, would have been able to sell it for double what they paid. you could have made thousands of gold. i only grabbed a few pieces the other day, and im up a few hundred gold.

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 3:20 PM. Reason : -]

3/29/2006 3:19:35 PM

same. I went to ubrs got 3 boe's sold them each for 80-90g

3/29/2006 4:54:36 PM

vHADSFLKN

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 4:57 PM. Reason : DSFG]

3/29/2006 4:56:53 PM

herbs did NOT need a bag.

3/29/2006 7:40:07 PM

^ my ass they didn't

3/29/2006 10:15:29 PM

please...they stack in 20s.....a free back can hold hundreds


im guessing in just about every IF of every realm there was a gathering of bears dancing, and AoEs

[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : =]

3/29/2006 10:34:36 PM

okay i hit 60 today
went prot spec
now im bored out of my mind

3/29/2006 10:51:01 PM

screw prot sepc :p

3/29/2006 11:05:04 PM

http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=14266

thottbot doesnt have the newer version post 1.10 but they buffed the shit out of this staff and it is fucking sweet. great fr piece..

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 1:34 AM. Reason : ]

3/30/2006 1:31:41 AM

I'm still getting incredilbe lag and can basically accomplish nothing.

3/30/2006 1:35:36 AM

got my glowing brightwood staff...that should last me forever, since i dont raid.

also; has anyone seen the weather effects? it looks like they scrapped the idea, i see none.

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 2:03 AM. Reason : -]

3/30/2006 1:48:25 AM

I'm still trying to port WoW into the MM5. I don't have any idea what to use for initializatoin data though.

3/30/2006 2:36:56 AM

Quote :

"has anyone seen the weather effects? it looks like they scrapped the idea, i see none"

it rained in stv for at least an hour the other night. i havent been sitting around in winterspring waiting to see the snow though

3/30/2006 3:57:42 AM

AV is now broke as hell. there goes one of the few parts of the game that were still fun to me.

3/30/2006 4:05:21 AM

^howso?

3/30/2006 4:15:00 AM

there is an immortal "servant of allistarj" in IF ... free weapon skill

about 30 people just smacking him not taking any damage

3/30/2006 4:36:09 AM

that happens every other week or so
sorta funny

3/30/2006 4:38:23 AM

^^^ Only gain rep from killing the other faction and being in the raid, in the same area. In the time that i could pull 1000 rep before im lucky to get 650 and to do that it takes mindless moshpit killing that never moves. Totaly ruined AV.

3/30/2006 4:42:50 AM

or you could just win AV's.

3/30/2006 8:55:18 AM

i think its great. people cant just afk bot in av anymore and get their rep

3/30/2006 8:58:28 AM

Quote :

"also; has anyone seen the weather effects? it looks like they scrapped the idea, i see none."

Yeah, they are in. The problem is that they're in very few zones, and they only last for like 2 hours. I too had it rain in STV last night, and personally I think it looked really damn good. It'll be great once they get weather in all the zones

3/30/2006 9:06:10 AM

heck id like to see snow in av and rain in wsg and ab once in awhile. you know make it a random variable when the map loads. like 5% of the times its raining in ab/wsg or something.

3/30/2006 9:41:25 AM

i dont understand why they didnt just set up a weather system that would roll over all of the zones. Its not like it would be hard to keep track of that. ONLY having weather in certain zones is retarded.

3/30/2006 9:43:54 AM

i agree. its a start at least. this is actually probably one thing back when i played it in beta and then the initial full release that i was surprised they didnt have in the game

3/30/2006 9:45:39 AM

They can't have dynamic weather rolling in all zones because that wouldn't be very easy to implement.

I'm pretty sure they'll end up including weather appropriate to all zones by expac.

3/30/2006 10:53:36 AM

it would be easy to impliment

it just tells the servers which zones have which weather every x amount of time and that info is sent to the clients. no biggie

im not talking about half of elwynn having rain and the other half of the storm being over darkshire. nothing that complicated.

having a storm that is covering barrens, durotar, and azshara that moves to cover barrens, durotar, and dustwallow wouldnt be hard to impliment.

3/30/2006 10:56:06 AM

dont go prot spec, Unless you are MTing AQ40 right now, theres no reason to go more then 15 points into prot. I've had about 20 specs on my warrior.

If you are Pre-bwl i suggest 18/33/0 or 31/20/0

If you are in BWL and a tank warrior, not a dps warrior Then 31/5/15 or 5/31/15.

If you are MTing AQ40, then you might wanna consider it

3/30/2006 11:11:54 AM

You're making a lot of assumptions about server architecture here, Lokken.

This discussion is over.

3/30/2006 12:35:12 PM

yea theres no way they'd be able to handle that

3/30/2006 12:49:18 PM

There is no discussion. Youre talking out of your ass, where as im going off of what they already have implimented

they have shown they have it set up to do a zone by zone weather effects, sever fucking architecture or not.

Setting up something to say 'fill these zones with what you have already set up' isnt a stretch.

If they have the 'architecture' to handle 40 people fighting one monster from all over the earth where timing is very important, I think they have the 'architecture' and ability to have the server communicate that the weather should be 'on' for this zone and switch 'off' for the one it was previously on.

im interested in hearing what kind of 'architecture' or lack of prevents them from telling the servers to switch weather effects based on a timeframe

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 12:58 PM. Reason : *]

3/30/2006 12:50:22 PM

Quote :

"If they have the 'architecture' to handle 40 people fighting one monster from all over the earth where timing is very important,"

when did they get this?

3/30/2006 12:59:39 PM

ok, hemisphere, even country.

still want to know what ghastly assumptions ive made about their architecture.

3/30/2006 1:02:45 PM

lol 40 people fighting 1 guy does not compare to the entire server population getting a new environmental variable to draw

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 1:21 PM. Reason : not to mention a variable that moves itself constantly]

3/30/2006 1:19:10 PM

um

you want to explain why not?

Client: I want to Cast fireball
Server: Everyone in raid draw player X firing fireball
Clients: Draw player X firing fireball

Server: Everyone in zones X, Y, and Z should be seeing rain
Client: render rain if in zone X, Y, or Z
Server: remove zone X from rain, add zone W to rain
Client: stop rain if in zone X, start rain if in zone W.

Youre acting like the server has to render the weather effect. All it would have to do is keep track of which zones have weather on, which it already does, and then send the info to the client along with all of the other data that is constantly going back and forth.

Im just curious why they didnt set up something that moves weather across all zones, a complete zone at a time that just adds one zone and drops a previous one. They already HAVE the 'architecture' to communicate where the weather is and how long it should be on.

I bet they did it this way so that they can have it as a 'feature' in upcoming patches.

you mean a variable that is constantly moving and requires updates to clients like the location of OTHER players, monsters, NPCs, etc.

yeah they have none of those

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 1:28 PM. Reason : *]

3/30/2006 1:26:17 PM

I'm not talking out of my ass Lokken. I know you can't read and comprehend anything but other engineers reading this thread will note that I offered no explanation as to why they can or can't implement what you said other then assuming it isn't as easy as you think it is.

3/30/2006 1:27:47 PM

im still waiting for the horrible 'architecture' assumptions that you think ive made.

3/30/2006 1:28:59 PM

Well, you're assuming shifting weather data from zone to zone is seamless, for one.

3/30/2006 1:29:58 PM

Quote :

"You're making a lot of assumptions about server architecture here, Lokken. This discussion is over."

3/30/2006 1:31:26 PM

yet noone can tell me what the assumptions i have made about server architecture are.

i.e. youre talking out of your ass

I am making no assumptions, im going off what they already do in the game

im not talking about moving a 'system' across the zones. I am talking about having a simple system that keeps track of what zones should have weather and which shouldnt.

They already HAVE the weather set up. they already HAVE the servers set up to have it on or off given certain circumstances. I am just curious why they limited it to certain zones as opposed to having it go from zone to zone.

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 1:37 PM. Reason : *]

they shift character data from zone to zone constantly, and its pretty seamless. seems like the architecture is there.

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 1:39 PM. Reason : *]

3/30/2006 1:36:54 PM

Quote :

"im not talking about moving a 'system' across the zones."

Quote :

"I am just curious why they limited it to certain zones as opposed to having it[weather 'system'] go from zone to zone."

You can't even talk without tripping on your own thoughts.

Suffice it to say, anyone that I'd actually want to have this conversation with understands what I said.

Continue with your presumptions and rants. I'ma go code.

3/30/2006 1:41:26 PM