natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Seabron had a really bad night until about the last 2 minutes and with our team he has to be good. He missed a lot of contested shots in close and several times seemed to leave his man wide open for a layup. With about 5 minutes to go Va. Tech gave us multiple chances to take the lead and we went on a scoring drought instead. 1/19/2022 10:39:08 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Has any player regressed year to year under Keatts more than Hayes? 1/20/2022 8:27:59 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Not at all. For the most part I feel like player development has been solid with Keatts (Seabron and Bates are great examples). But Hayes is just bad right now. Seems like Hayes is more than just a slump…seems to have lost all confidence. 1/20/2022 8:30:30 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
TSmith is making him over think everything 1/20/2022 9:28:45 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Total bummer about Ross. It's especially unfortunate timing given that Keatts had just figured out he was better than Gibson.
I didn't watch the game last night--especially glad I missed the stellar out of timeout play that Keatts came up with to end the game.
How many 0-fers or 1-fers does Hayes have to put up before Pass gets some real PT?
When we are getting our asses kicked next year, I don't want to fuckin hear that we are young and inexperienced because now is a great opportunity for him to get some experience. 1/20/2022 9:53:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Seems like Smith is getting more time at PG. Hayes only played 13 mins. But Pass only 4. I, too, am all for seeing Pass get more PT. Can’t be much worse than Hayes. 1/20/2022 10:01:31 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
I think our most minutes lineup last night was DSEA-Ebe-Tollhouse(morsell, nickname patent pending)-Turk-JCole 1/20/2022 10:16:22 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I like that lineup ok, but completely take the ball out of Hayes hands and tell him he is a defensive specialist and flip-flop his and Pass's minutes. I actually think Hayes can be a capable defender for stretches, but since his shot completely left him, he seems to have lost confidence all over.
I'm on board for Tollhouse. DSEA? Nah. I'm a fan of Seagod, though. 1/20/2022 10:22:06 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
DC 1/20/2022 10:41:07 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
I was sad-laughing a little today remembering that Gibson scored our first 4 points and then never shot again. "He's got 4 and 5 is his career high!!" *30 game minutes later* well 5 is still career high 1/20/2022 4:58:20 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I miss Shakeel Moore. 1/20/2022 11:08:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I don't want to fuckin hear that we are young and inexperienced because now is a great opportunity for him to get some experience." |
LOL people say that shit now and we start two seniors.1/21/2022 12:50:46 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
I haven’t seen that used much as an excuse, tbh. Maybe in reference to the big men specifically but for the team as a whole I haven’t seen it. But maybe I’ve missed it. 1/21/2022 2:23:58 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
iirc, at the start of the season, only Hellems and Manny had played more than two seasons with the team (and we know what happened to Manny). Seabron redshirted his freshman year and didn't play much last year. Allen red-shirted when he transferred, then he played some last year, but he missed the last 8 games with injury. So really Hellems is the only player on the team that has a full two years of court-experience with the team. Everyone else is freshmen, sophomores or transfers. 1/21/2022 2:30:17 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
^^ take a listen to the Keatts postgames. It's his favorite thing to say after a loss.
^ That's the nature of college bball. NOONE has a starting 5 of seniors/juniors. We may be one of the most experienced teams in the ACC. But even if we didn't it's a bogus ass excuse for a coach who has been here for 5 years and has control over the roster.
[Edited on January 21, 2022 at 2:34 PM. Reason : d] 1/21/2022 2:32:10 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Yep with the transfer portal like it is, even if you have an “old” team they likely won’t have played together for 3 years. 1/21/2022 3:53:02 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Not that it matters, and not that it's an excuse, but I'd challenge someone to find several (or maybe one, i dont know) teams that don't have at least two guys that have played (on the court, not redshirt) together for more than two years. And especially two starters. I don't know, maybe it's more common that I think. 1/21/2022 3:56:46 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Wake brought in a ton of transfers this year and they’re doing alright.
Bring in a lot of transfers can work. The transfers just need to be good. Morsell has struggled to be consistent. Allen sucks. And Gantt hasn’t played. That along with Bates’ injury really sank us. Missing on transfers and then losing the teams best player…not great! 1/21/2022 4:14:22 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
At this point we've got 3 big men out for the season, including our most impactful player. I realize Gantt hasn't ever played for us, but i think it's pretty obvious he would have played a significant depth role on this team. I don't know of any team that wouldn't struggle losing that many big dudes.
Add to that the inexplicable disappearance of Cam Hayes's basketball abilities and you've got a recipe for disaster. 1/21/2022 4:21:46 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
I know Gantt’s stats weren’t impressive at providence. But he would’ve been the second best big man on the team behind Bates. Although he doesn’t have the height like Ebe or Bates (he’s listed at 6’8”) he would’ve played plenty. 1/21/2022 4:37:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^^just for fun (doesn't mean anything), I just looked at WF's roster, and they have one guy that's been there for 4 years, and another graduate student transfer that is playing his third season (and red-shirted another), and a third guy who's playing his third season... so even though Wake has a lot of transfers, they still have (at least) three guys who've played with each other for more than two years coming into this season (unlike us, who don't have any... not including Manny).
(at this point I'm just doing this for fun, and I may have made some errors)
[Edited on January 21, 2022 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ^^^] 1/21/2022 4:57:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
We’re 2 point favorites vs UVa today. I guess UVa isn’t that good this year. Seems like KK’s teams have generally played well vs UVa 1/22/2022 1:38:25 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot how much I hated playing UVa. Handsy as hell on defense all day long…daring refs to call it 1/22/2022 4:06:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Gardner is really good for UVa. He’s the transfer from ecu we went after but couldn’t land 1/22/2022 4:15:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
There’s a successful after TO play. Jericole and Baby T on fire 1/22/2022 4:43:16 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Quick, stat department, what’s our record for most 3’s in a half and most in a game? 1/22/2022 4:44:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Don't know about in a half, but the most for a game was 19 vs Jacksonville on 12/22/17 1/22/2022 4:59:19 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Morsell having a really good game. Would love for him to be more aggressive and consistent. 1/22/2022 5:03:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Can't believe Hellems only has 2 rebounds! Keatts should bench him!!! 1/22/2022 5:23:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Another successful after TO play by Keatts
https://twitter.com/insidepacksport/status/1485018436447219716?s=21 1/22/2022 5:42:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
shh no that is impossible 1/22/2022 5:47:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
Preeeettty good 1/22/2022 7:23:05 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
HAHA. I came here hoping someone was gonna say something about that. Seeing how complicated the action was, it makes total sense why most of his inbounds plays don't work. But that was a thing of beauty. 1/22/2022 7:33:24 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^nice 1/22/2022 7:44:38 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Was nice to not have to sweat it out at the end of a game. We need to keep shooting like that. 1/22/2022 11:11:58 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
i agree, we should continue to shoot 60% every game. i don't know why keatts doesn't tell them to do that smh 1/22/2022 11:19:36 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 23, 2022 at 9:47 AM. Reason : ] 1/23/2022 9:39:48 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
After the Virginia game, Terq leads the ACC in made 3s 1/26/2022 9:17:59 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Espn+ for the game tonight. Smh. 1/26/2022 7:33:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
It's on tv in Florida, fox sports
[Edited on January 26, 2022 at 8:15 PM. Reason : Or bally sports? ]
Channel 50 on spectrum in Raleigh?
[Edited on January 26, 2022 at 8:18 PM. Reason : E] 1/26/2022 8:13:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Oh yeah Bally Sports is right. 1/26/2022 8:33:56 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37672 Posts user info edit post |
1/26/2022 8:43:51 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
2 fouls on morsell. So Hayes is in. He’s active defensively and made a nice pass to Hellems for an assist. But his shot is just broken right now. No need for him to be jacking up a 25 footer in the first place. Idk what the solution for Hayes is. But it’s gotta be in his head at this point. 1/26/2022 9:23:08 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
This game is just brick after brick from both teams 1/26/2022 9:38:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
ND can’t seem to stop Seabron. Need to quit settling for deep 3s and let Seabron drive. 1/26/2022 10:08:28 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
Did the refs go to the monitor and review a charge/block call? Since when do they do that. 1/26/2022 10:17:01 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
It is a known fact that Ron Groover hates Jericole Hellems. He will do whatever it takes to fuck him over. 1/26/2022 10:26:00 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
I know I’m biased but I feel like these refs kinda suck (and so do both of the teams heyyooo). 1/26/2022 10:51:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah well Ron Groover is terrible. Gave them a timeout when they never had possession! 1/26/2022 10:52:32 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27827 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck him! 1/26/2022 10:52:53 PM |