well of course but these guys went overboard imo. but then again once youve been grinding PVE content for so long only thing left is to be faster i gues

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ]

4/26/2006 11:24:31 AM

Yeah I don't know if the whole raid needed to be flasked. But it does seem like encounters are needing more and more consumables. If I look back at other first kills for me at least:

Ragnaros: whole raid with greater fire pots
Nefarian: whole raid with greater shadow + tanks with flasks

So maybe C'Thun needing the whole raid to be flasked is just natural progression.

4/26/2006 11:28:01 AM

We have gone from flasking 4 tanks for broodlord, 1 for chromag and 2 for nef to flasking 1 guy for nef. My old guild used to flask MTs for rag. We also flasked 2 tanks for our first few huhu kills.

Currently we burn 3 flask a week (plus whatever mages/locks get thier own supreme powers to work thier damage) 2 for emps, 1 for nef (warrior call + shaman call + shadowflame = bbq'd tank).

And like probably every other guild working on ouro and cthun, we have an extensive guild bank. Buffing everyones brains out is not that big of a deal if you are doing it for your frist few kills, it helps you get the rythem down.

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 11:30 AM. Reason : a]

4/26/2006 11:30:43 AM

yea. i mean we used flasks and stuff when we were learning BWL too. these guys just flasked of supreme powered every caster, flasked every melee etc.

its not really that big of deal:p i just thought it was excessive

4/26/2006 11:36:03 AM

they need flasks of agility + 100 or some shit.

4/26/2006 11:43:30 AM

you can stack elixir of agility and elixir of the mongoose. for like 4.5% crit which is like 90agilitys worth of crit

4/26/2006 11:45:58 AM

i dont think they stack

and anyhow it would only be 50 agi +2 crit = 2.9 crit for a hunter.

it would also only be like 100 rap

as opposed to the 200 dmg bonus from spell power flask.

4/26/2006 11:49:08 AM

they do stack. and im a warrior so yea my calculations are diff

4/26/2006 11:52:40 AM

^ they do stack

you have to use the mongoose potion before the agility one though

if you use the agility potion and then the mongoose potion, the mongoose potion will replace the agility buff.

but if you use mongoose first, the agility will stack on.

4/26/2006 12:32:47 PM

hah.

well that explains that

how about scorpok assplay?

will that stack.?

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2006 12:33:49 PM

Ahahahahahaha the rogue that kept attacking me and got her ass handed to her THREE TIMES just came back with not one, not two, but THREE sixties. They are now camping my corpse. Ehe.

BECAUSE IT TOTALLY TAKES FOUR DUDES TO TAKE DOWN A FUCKING WARLOCK.

4/26/2006 12:46:35 PM

yea it does

nerf warlocks

4/26/2006 12:48:53 PM

I should say:

a 55 warlock.

4/26/2006 12:49:37 PM

oh, heh.

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 12:51 PM. Reason : still, nerf warlocks]

4/26/2006 12:50:49 PM

everytime i grp with a warlock, 45% of the damage done is from a warlock. (DmgMeters)

Especially a warlock in PvP gear, fucking insane DPS

4/26/2006 12:53:30 PM

I am a 58 rogue

grouped with 2 60 hunters and another 58 rogue last night taking down the giants in winterspring

i consistently took agro. I know rogues are damage dealers, but out of that group (hunters had teir X crap and im in mostly greens with some blues) i shouldnt be taking a bit i dont think.

/care

4/26/2006 12:57:04 PM

Well, three/four dots spread out over multiple mobs, plus drain life or shadowbolts....yeah.

But we're fucking fragile (non-SL builds, at least). I switched from Soul Link to Dark Pact, though, and it's 100x better at the moment.

4/26/2006 12:57:59 PM

fragile my fucking ass

i wish i could keep fuckers chain feared while i nuke them.

4/26/2006 1:00:02 PM

Hahahahahaha.

4/26/2006 1:02:37 PM

Quote :

" consistently took agro"

That should read "consistently took aggro after hunter x Feigned death at the first sign of the giant approaching"

4/26/2006 1:06:28 PM

lol yea warlocks are def not fragile for a caster

4/26/2006 1:14:24 PM

That should read "consistently took aggro after noob hunter x Feigned death at the first sign of the giant approaching"

any good hunter will be able to hold agro and kite one of those 58 elite giants while the other people beat it down.

4/26/2006 1:19:57 PM

I have no interest in pulling aggro with 2 hunters and 2 rogues and 2 pets. Especially since we're taking them one at a time. I can't DPS if i'm kiting.

4/26/2006 1:22:40 PM

Quote :

"That should read "consistently took aggro after hunter x Feigned death at the first sign of the giant approaching""

hah whatever dude, there were a couple times i was pounded into the dirt and everyone was firing away.

not to mention i never fell into the middle of them like the two hunters did

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 1:55 PM. Reason : *]

4/26/2006 1:53:32 PM

Quote :

"fragile my fucking ass i wish i could keep fuckers chain feared while i nuke them. "

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A HUNTER COMPLAINING ABOUT FEAR.

4/26/2006 2:06:06 PM

ok so

omg seduce wtf?

o cloaked succubus

dots dots dots MORE DOTS

nuked

ok time to attack now conc sho... O FUCK FEARED

STILL FEARED

GETTING NUKED

STILL FEARED

OK NOT FEARED

SCATTER SHOT LOL!!

TRAP TIME LOL

OH WAIT CANT FD B/C OF DOTS!

OH SHIT SEDUCED AGAIN

OK NOT SEDUCED

AIM SHOT GO!!!

CRIT! WOOO!

2500!!!

WARLOCK AT HALF HEALTH

O SHIT FEARED AGAIN

ALMOST DEAD

OK NO MORE FEARS

SHOOTS TEH WARLOCKS

OSHIT DEATH COIL

DEADS HUNTERS!

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2006 2:12:42 PM

Quote :

"fragile my fucking ass i wish i could keep fuckers chain feared while i nuke them. "

i wish i could feign death + drop traps my way to victory in pvp :p

4/26/2006 2:19:45 PM

learn2rend

4/26/2006 2:20:28 PM

:p dont think i dont know what im doin in pvp.

rend is a waste of rage when i crit enough to have deep wounds up almost nonstop

4/26/2006 2:32:26 PM

Yeah yeah, fear + dots + drain + succy, whatever.

2300 HEALTH, SON.

On the other hand, I did just kill a 60 warr 1v1, but I'll have to assume he was severely retarded or something. There's no excuse for that.

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 2:37 PM. Reason : ]

4/26/2006 2:34:20 PM

dots = no out of combat = no traps

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2006 2:38:20 PM

Quote :

"i wish i could feign death + drop traps my way to victory in pvp :p "

with one on one duels its a strong tactic, but it loses almost all usefulness in a battlground.

for the most part you wont have a 1 on 1 fight as a hunter in a battleground, plus 99% of the time someone else will break your trap anyway. if a hunter relies heavily on FD + trap in BGs then they are mediocre at best.

4/26/2006 2:41:18 PM

one hunter, two freeze traps lol

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 2:43 PM. Reason : double post calls for double freeze traps]

4/26/2006 2:41:45 PM

Quote :

"dots = no out of combat = no traps"

i wasnt talking about myself/my warrior persay. i understand that.

4/26/2006 2:44:54 PM

hunters are a group pvp class anyhow.

run up behind the bulk of the enemy forces and nuke casters.


I was in an AV one time nuking healers and shit

they saw me and started coming after me so i took off.

I was on the hill right before stormpike GY and so i just jumped down, and dropped a frost trap.

I got 2 guys snared with entrapment and killed them both.

Then i died to like 300 dots.


Also, is there some gay as shit mod for warlocks that auto dots anyone who attacks you?

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 2:46 PM. Reason : .]

4/26/2006 2:45:46 PM

Not that I know of, but I don't really use any mods. It doesn't take more than a second to Siphon Life + CoA + Corruption, though.

4/26/2006 2:49:48 PM

b/c i swear

theres some warlocks where they'd have no idea i was there and the second one of my shots would land it have dots on me

4/26/2006 2:55:10 PM

it's called the tab key.

4/26/2006 5:18:56 PM

no like, i'd be shooting them and my arrow would hit and then instantly MANY DOTS

4/26/2006 5:19:40 PM

EXTREME

4/26/2006 5:23:39 PM

MOTHERFUCKING EXTREME!!!

4/26/2006 5:24:59 PM

lol I still crack up when I think about you running around Kargath spamming that. Good times.

4/26/2006 5:29:47 PM

by the way i do still get hunters feign deathing and dropping traps with rend and deep wounds on but i do it anyways. i forgot to mention that awhile back

4/26/2006 6:23:41 PM

yes, there are mods. I quit but there were people in my guild using it. Your turn in on and sit there. The second you are hit by anything it runs the script. You'll see it a lot on chinese farmers.

4/26/2006 6:27:07 PM

On the issue of Elixer of the Mongoose and Elixer of Greater Agility stacking:

The +Agility DOES NOT STACK. The reason that Mongoose isn't replaced by Greater Agility when you use them in that order is that the +crit% effect from Mongoose is not replaced, so the icon stays. However if you use Greater Agility first, then the Mongoose replaces all of it's effect and the icon, therefore, disappears.

And on the issue of flasking:

The guild I am in took down Nefarian with 4 total flasks (One on the tank, 2 on mages, and one on a warlock). The guild paid for the one on the tank only, the rest were farmed or purchased by the individuals.

[Edited on April 26, 2006 at 6:40 PM. Reason : flasks]

4/26/2006 6:38:07 PM

i stack them and get the full effect quite often in pvp when im bored. i can check again but at least before last patch i got hte full crit from both pots

4/26/2006 6:39:26 PM

I just checked it. Even if you use both, you only get +25 agility total.

My base Agility is 311 and melee crit is 14.68%, i used the Elixer of the Mongoose, it went to 336 Agility and 17.15%crit. I used the Elixer of Greater Agility and it stayed at 336 and 17.15%.

Speaking of which, i need to go farm silversage so i can get more mongoose pots made.

4/26/2006 6:44:34 PM

maybe they fixed it i remember way back when i realized you could do that and it def stacked both but i havent bothered to check it in a very long tmie

4/26/2006 6:50:28 PM

restarted playing it on friday

uninstalling the thing today

you know how it is

4/26/2006 10:20:41 PM

interesting

4/26/2006 10:21:08 PM