pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
there was a thread on there about a year ago, detailing the progression to professional player this one guy did doing the $2 180 man sngs.
went from driving cabs for a living to multitabling $2 mini mtts.
it's kinda wild what some people can pull off
i think ive all but give up playing online for a serious profit anymore.
i just dont have the patience...
after spending 60+ hrs a week behind a computer at work, i dont want to spend another 30+ when i get home grinding out a few bucks.
id rather wait to the weekend and play live, since i'm lucky enough to have some of the best action on the east coast an hour away.
ill rock an occasional sng, but i dont think i have it in me anymore to play constantly like i used to.
although the thought of rebuilding back to being comfortably rolled for multitabling mid-high limit omaha is enticing though. 5/29/2007 11:00:28 AM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
I assume you've heard of shaundeeb (sp?). Same way for him he started on the stars 4/180 and is now rolling with Pearljammer and the like in the big MTTs. He FT'd 51 4/180s in a row (I think thats the number, but if not somewhere right around there). Anyways, he's a millionarie or damn close now. 5/29/2007 11:06:53 AM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say it's impossible to maintain 20+ bb/100 at .01/.02 PLO. Play for fun or to work on reading your hands at lightning speed while multitabling, but you won't be able to see a decent(as in comparable to McDonalds) hourly rate until you get to .05/.10 5/29/2007 3:43:32 PM |
howaboutno Veteran 471 Posts user info edit post |
I was playing in a $22 SNG on Full Tilt today and this happened:
I was in the big blind with 66. All 9 players are there with varying stacks. The blinds are 80/40. So everyone folds, then the guy on the button raises to 240. Small blind folds.
Do you guys think this is worthy of a reraise, a call, or a fold?
Anyway, I called. The flop was 10, K, 6. He raises me to all in and of course I call. He had QJ but never hits his straight.
After that he went on this long diatribe about how it was a stupid call and I either should of raised or folded. Did I play it right? 5/29/2007 3:53:15 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
It all depends on how many chips you both started the hand with. Calling can be okay, but you have to have a backup plan for when you don't hit your set. 5/29/2007 4:03:38 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
stop-n-go
HAY HAY HAY 5/29/2007 4:11:40 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
so im going to the wsop in june for a while. i think I will play 1 tourney half staked for the hell of it for my friends. So if any of you on here want some action. Give me a call. Those of you who dont know me can pm me.
I'm playing in the events from the 14th on. Probably I'll do one of the cheaper ones as a half stake. 5/29/2007 4:16:25 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
im in for a hundo.
you know this.
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:22 PM. Reason : e] 5/29/2007 4:22:39 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It all depends on how many chips you both started the hand with. Calling can be okay, but you have to have a backup plan for when you don't hit your set." |
Agreed. If you had < 2000 chips then the lecture was well deserved.5/29/2007 4:24:34 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
^^ gotcha 5/29/2007 4:27:49 PM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
I would tend to fold in that position unless my stack was > ~ 2400. Of course it is very dependent upon the blinding structure (turbo or blinds every 10). With blinds every 10, i'd lay it down with stack < 2400.
**Also very dependent upon the raisers stack, obv (statement above is for similar stack sizes).
Oh yeh, I may try to make it out for some WSOP maybe 15th-17th. Doubt I will be donking away my money in an event though. I have heard that it's the best time to be in town for live games though, tends to be alot more dead money.
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .] 5/29/2007 4:30:13 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
you ever played in a casino before?
any stakes you'll be playing will be filled with "dead money"
tournament times bringing extra fish into games only really applies to tough games (80/160+) where it often times ends up with a bunch of regular rocks butting heads all day long.
you wont notice a difference in play in 1/2, 2/5 or 5/10 no limit and like 20/40 lhe and below from any other weekend in terms of play levels, it's always sufficently bad... just longer lists.
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:33 PM. Reason : er] 5/29/2007 4:33:02 PM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
That's odd, what i've read was that the lower limits were basically just filled with more idiots than usual, i'll send a link whenever I get back home.
But yeh i've played a decent amount of 2/5 on gambling boats with reasonable success. None in a real casino, another reason i'm a bit apprehensive do drop 1500 or 2000 on an actual event until I can get some more live time in AC this summer (probably be up in a few weeks for a nice 48 hour benge). 5/29/2007 4:43:29 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
ive been around quite a few tournaments and havent noticed a difference. (wpt and wsop circuit... only AC however)
well maybe 1/2 gets a bit softer
there are too many internet winning players that flood 1/2 b/c they cant sack up to 2/5, so more players to more dispurse these cats wouldnt be a bad thing.
plus when you say more idiots than usual, then it's a good thing
i mean, i can manage a table with 5 morons and a few to avoid.
a table with 7 morons and 2 to avoid, not so much difference than just 5.
the ones you avoid are quiet and not involved in many hands anyways, as opposed to every hand with the morons... not much difference really
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:50 PM. Reason : e] 5/29/2007 4:49:33 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
sweet christ tell me all plo games aren't this soft.
after today's talks, ive sat at 2 25plo games.
ive never been called a donk more in my life
when you know
i flop full in a limped pot and they stack off with trips to me
or things of the like 5/29/2007 11:20:08 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
If I were a stock, I would sell me. Right now. Before the next crash.
5/30/2007 2:58:52 AM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
Haha yup. I ran 2 or 3 tables for around 400 hands last night. Only ran ~ 140BB/100 on the .01/.02 and ~30BB/100 on the .02/.05. 5/30/2007 8:08:58 AM |
linoleum24 All American 848 Posts user info edit post |
The story of my night....
PokerStars Game #10208055947: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/05/31 - 23:00:08 (ET) Table 'Meyer' 6-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: Dan Gadzuric ($44.35 in chips) Seat 2: GamblerNCH ($100 in chips) Seat 3: Stewymark ($41.55 in chips) Seat 4: rdsprague2 ($106.80 in chips) Seat 5: deerpuncher ($93.15 in chips) Seat 6: DeBigL ($21.35 in chips) Stewymark: posts small blind $0.50 rdsprague2: posts big blind $1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Dan Gadzuric [5h 6h] deerpuncher: calls $1 DeBigL: calls $1 Dan Gadzuric: raises $3 to $4 GamblerNCH: folds Stewymark: folds rdsprague2: folds deerpuncher: calls $3 DeBigL: calls $3 *** FLOP *** [6s 2h 6c] deerpuncher: checks DeBigL: checks Dan Gadzuric: bets $4 deerpuncher: calls $4 DeBigL: folds *** TURN *** [6s 2h 6c] [4c] deerpuncher: checks Dan Gadzuric: bets $8 deerpuncher: raises $8 to $16 Dan Gadzuric: raises $20.35 to $36.35 and is all-in deerpuncher: calls $20.35 *** RIVER *** [6s 2h 6c 4c] [Qh] *** SHOW DOWN *** deerpuncher: shows [4d 4h] (a full house, Fours full of Sixes) Dan Gadzuric: shows [5h 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes) deerpuncher collected $91.20 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $94.20 | Rake $3 Board [6s 2h 6c 4c Qh] Seat 1: Dan Gadzuric showed [5h 6h] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes Seat 2: GamblerNCH (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Stewymark (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: rdsprague2 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: deerpuncher showed [4d 4h] and won ($91.20) with a full house, Fours full of Sixes Seat 6: DeBigL folded on the Flop 5/31/2007 11:02:29 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "deerpuncher: raises $8 to $16" |
Damn I miss online poker. Neteller needs to give me my money back. 5/31/2007 11:08:38 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
So yeah it's been over a month now, and this is frustrating. It blows that they are pawning off the blame on a thrid party cash distributor. God damn it Bodog, you are the idiots who chose to go with this distributor. It's your faults!!!! *********************************************************** Dear James,
Thank you for contacting Bodog Poker Customer Service.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience of our current payout delays. We have learned that a large number of checks that were processed from March 28 and on have been delayed by our third party processor, which has ffected a large number of our clients. The processor is restricted by the volume that they can process and have been facing other challenges as well which have all contributed to these delays.
While we are doing everything we can, these payouts are being sent out by the processor in a more gradual fashion than we’re used to. You will be receiving your payout but at this moment we cannot project when with any degree of accuracy. Once we are on top of our current backlog, we expect to be back to the speedy payout system that has earned our company one of the best reputations in this industry.
Again, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and we will work extra hard from a customer service standpoint to win back the respect of you and the rest of our clientele.
Thank you again for writing. If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. Regards,
Poker Customer Service ***************************************************** Dear James,
Thank you for contacting Bodog Poker Customer Service.
We apologize that your payout is taking longer than it should. Please be informed that the information that was provided to you from the previous email is the only information available to us at this time.
As we do not have anyone in our Ecomm department, we will forward your account information to them and get an update on the status of your payout and will be in contact with you within 24 hours. Again, we would like to apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience on this matter.
Thank you again for writing. If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Poker Customer Service ******************************************************* Dear James,
In regards to your payout request for $304.00, this item was sent to our secondary check processor and is currently in the queue. At this time we do not have a definite time frame on when you will be receiving the check, however, we will be providing you with a tracking number for the USPS priority post / FedEx as soon as it becomes available to us.
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[Edited on June 1, 2007 at 9:44 AM. Reason : x] 6/1/2007 9:43:33 AM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
Damn that sucks.
I want Netteller back. 6/1/2007 9:45:21 AM |
lee8431 Suspended 80 Posts user info edit post |
PokerStars Game #9966245929: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/17 - 18:41:37 (ET) Table 'Mirphak IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: pechardi ($64.65 in chips) Seat 2: hart4456 ($28.50 in chips) Seat 3: gnurf ($3.35 in chips) Seat 4: Jimmi2times ($53.35 in chips) Seat 5: Dirkdaddy ($84 in chips) Seat 6: ablee ($104.30 in chips) Jimmi2times: posts small blind $0.25 Dirkdaddy: posts big blind $0.50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ablee [Ad Ah] ablee: calls $0.50 pechardi: raises $1.50 to $2 hart4456: folds gnurf: raises $1.35 to $3.35 and is all-in Jimmi2times: calls $3.10 Dirkdaddy: folds ablee: raises $8.65 to $12 pechardi: calls $10 Jimmi2times: raises $41.35 to $53.35 and is all-in ablee: raises $50.95 to $104.30 and is all-in ablee said, "aa" pechardi: calls $52.65 and is all-in *** FLOP *** [2d 5d 7s] *** TURN *** [2d 5d 7s] [9c] *** RIVER *** [2d 5d 7s 9c] [8d] *** SHOW DOWN *** ablee: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces) pechardi: mucks hand ablee collected $22.60 from side pot-2 Jimmi2times: mucks hand ablee collected $147.65 from side pot-1 gnurf: mucks hand ablee collected $13.25 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $186.50 Main pot $13.25. Side pot-1 $147.65. Side pot-2 $22.60. | Rake $3 Board [2d 5d 7s 9c 8d] Seat 1: pechardi mucked [Kc As] Seat 2: hart4456 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: gnurf (button) mucked [5h 4h] Seat 4: Jimmi2times (small blind) mucked [Ac Kh] Seat 5: Dirkdaddy (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: ablee showed [Ad Ah] and won ($183.50) with a pair of Aces
sweetnesss 6/1/2007 4:21:01 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Nice. He check raised you, then got 3 bet, and then decides to push all in. 6/1/2007 4:31:37 PM |
linoleum24 All American 848 Posts user info edit post |
why do all these noobs post hands when they win with AA? bobo ass people 6/2/2007 2:30:45 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Hah. Sorry noob. We stopped posting AA hand wins about 100 pages ago. 6/2/2007 7:57:49 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ablee: raises $50.95 to $104.30 and is all-in ablee said, "aa" pechardi: calls $52.65 and is all-in " |
wtf is this garbage
AND OH LOOK
THE LIMP RAISE UTG WITH AA
[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 8:16 AM. Reason : e]6/2/2007 8:16:12 AM |
BadPokerPlyr All American 2081 Posts user info edit post |
Been playing World Tavern for 3 weeks and I'm in the top 25 in the Raleigh region and top 5 in a Tavern. Won 4 tournaments placed 2nd in one and 3rd in 3 and top 10 in a few others. Thanks to whoever directed me there. Barring someone making an unherald comeback, I'll make regionals. It's been more fun than anything cause the poker is really bad. I've been playing online for a few years and I've come to the conclusion that the good to average online players are better than players who play live...especially fundamentaly. After reading some of the posts here, most of you guys would fare very well in world tavern 6/2/2007 9:31:48 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Did you just make a comparison between online poker players and world tavern poker players? 6/2/2007 10:32:57 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
easy fella 6/2/2007 10:33:25 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
I think I'd blow my brains out before I'd sit through an entire world tavern poker tournament. I've seen one once and words can't even being to describe it... 6/2/2007 10:35:47 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
we used to have side last longer bets
but we were at that bar every single night of the week already anyways, so it wasnt a big deal
but yeah, have to get sufficently hammered to stomach playing in it
[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 10:37 AM. Reason : e] 6/2/2007 10:37:21 AM |
linoleum24 All American 848 Posts user info edit post |
I am about to end this thread....tavern poker is worse than playing poker for belly button lent....grow some balls and throw some money down if you think you are that great at poker...
If you won a free bar tournament, i hope you arent think about turning professional. 6/2/2007 10:42:54 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
where'd you get that sunshine 6/2/2007 10:49:06 AM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
Haha ^^ 6/2/2007 11:58:25 AM |
lee8431 Suspended 80 Posts user info edit post |
don't hate guys i probably one more money online then most of yall wannabe poker players 6/2/2007 2:08:39 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "don't hate guys i probably one more money online then most of yall wannabe poker players
" |
6/2/2007 2:23:02 PM |
linoleum24 All American 848 Posts user info edit post |
this thread sucks now 6/2/2007 2:59:15 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
No Hish, you're just life tilting. 6/2/2007 3:04:30 PM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
Turner/Pearljammer FT'd the 5000 Mixed Hold'em WSOP event #1, he's in there w/ Ambrose, and has low stack though.
[Edited on June 3, 2007 at 2:48 PM. Reason : h] 6/3/2007 2:48:30 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
link? 6/3/2007 5:12:07 PM |
dman ncsu 86 All American 794 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/updates_pn.asp?tourneyID=3428&groupid=309 6/3/2007 6:16:50 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we used to have side last longer bets
but we were at that bar every single night of the week already anyways, so it wasnt a big deal
but yeah, have to get sufficently hammered to stomach playing in it
[Edited on June 2, 2007 at 10:37 AM. Reason : e]" |
Yeah, you sucked at those.6/3/2007 6:17:51 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
Man John has sucked out twice to double up. Go Jon. 6/3/2007 7:27:36 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Not bad for 3 days work...
Hands #32-33 - Jon Turner Eliminated in 8th Place ($46,633) Hand #32 - (No-Limit) Steve Paul-Ambrose has the button in seat 8, Mueller raises to 55,000, Paul-Ambrose reraises to 145,000, and Mueller thinks for a minute before he folds. Paul-Ambrose takes the pot. Hand #33 - (No-Limit) Tony George has the button in seat 9, Morrison raises to 55,000, Turner moves all in for 325,000, and Berger thinks for several minutes before calling from the big blind. The action is back on Morrison, who thinks for a moment before folding. Turner shows AK, and Berger has QQ it's a race situation. The flop comes 10, 8, 3, and Berger retains the lead. Turner needs running diamonds, running queen-jack for a straight, or an ace or a king to stay alive. The turn card is the 6, and Turner is down to six outs. The river card is the 5, and Berger wins the hand with his pocket queens. Jon Turner is eliminated in 8th place, earning $46,633.
Damn you wsop.com and your gif images 6/3/2007 9:55:00 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
^ I love your consistency Jim. On a sidenote, some guy in NYC just sent a page to my work pager. 6/3/2007 10:18:52 PM |
JohnnyTHM All American 18177 Posts user info edit post |
i hit my first royal flush in a heads up game against my roommate.
big slick of hearts in the hole, flop comes with a q and j, turn brought the 10.
got paid for it too. 6/4/2007 4:06:03 AM |
moe All American 683 Posts user info edit post |
Have any of you converted your PT database from mdb to postgresql? If so, how long did yours take? (mine is taking FOREVER). 6/5/2007 10:19:53 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
I did mine when I first started so it took only a few minutes, but I beleive Justin said his took several hours since he had a few hundred thousands hands. 6/5/2007 11:07:20 AM |
DSI Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
I've run into Nitro about 7 different times in the past 6 months. The first time I saw him after he got back to the States, Rommie was with me and Nitro did a spot-on Jew Alf Jake impression. Good times.
Hey Jim, remember the tournament at Turner's where we got down to heads-up and I had you outstacked by a ratio of about 50/1 and right before the first heads-up hand you said, "Greg, I'll chop with you right now?" We all laughed and then you won about 9 straight hands and went on to beat me.
Good times. 6/5/2007 8:30:57 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
So obviously I was being gracious.
It won't happen again. 6/6/2007 12:01:56 AM |