If I remember right Ivey made a prop bet w/ some folks that he would win the 50k horse tourney w/ odds something like 10:1. He def didn't win.

7/3/2007 1:04:01 PM

how about

"Unknown person that will pretend they are now poker's next biggest thing - 1:1000"

7/4/2007 11:32:45 AM

Heya all. Unfortunately I'm going out to sea again, so as much as it will pain TWW, I won't be posting again until October. Good luck to all of you with everything (especially poker) and I'll be posting my insightful tips again in no time (haha).

Take care.

7/5/2007 11:46:02 PM

What is he going to sea for?

7/6/2007 1:39:04 AM

need to do a tww IRL tourney

7/6/2007 1:55:35 AM

he is in the military.

7/6/2007 7:39:50 AM

I agree with Karim.

7/6/2007 9:01:10 AM

Aight, I have a situation that is continually popping up in mid-late tournament play, usually right around the bubble. I think it is a leak that I need to work on, so i'm just looking for some opinions.

Generally I have a tight agressive image, when I am raising, most people will respect it.

Lets just say blinds are 200/400 ante 50, 9 handed. Avg stack is well below comfortable given the large blinds, and we are within 30 people of the money in a large MTT.

I have 8000 chips.

In mid to mid-early position what am I doing with pocket pairs 8-J and AT-AQ?

I have been raising around 1500. Lets say I have one caller, flops is a low rainbow. My continuation bet would be ~2000-3000 chips (~30% of my stack). In the face of RR I fold, but I am hoping to take it down obv.

How do you guys play these sort of situations? I find that they either make or break me.

7/6/2007 1:01:42 PM

this is really the quasi bermuda triangle of M values for me

with an M of 8, i tend not to raise so much pre..

a raise on the bubble to 1,000 will fold the same people a raise to 1,500 will.

this makes your c-bet 1,500-1,800 or so

and you can get away from this easier, only dropping like 2,500 or so as opposed to more..

however, now you're in pushbot range after this failure.

oddly enough

i havent thought about poker at all in a few weeks, and found the william chen book in the bathroom yesterday...

read like 2 pages about his thoughts on bubble pushing in mtts

you should check it out, i think it was in one of the appendices

[Edited on July 6, 2007 at 1:14 PM. Reason : e]

7/6/2007 1:13:53 PM

I see alot of people raising smaller in these situations, the thing to me though, is that it is giving odds to the larger stacks to exploit that mistake.

I've heard Bill Chen's book is pretty intense. I'm taking time off poker books and reading some investing books at the moment, since i'm going to be channeling my poker wins to the market

7/6/2007 1:20:27 PM

Quote :

"I see alot of people raising smaller in these situations, the thing to me though, is that it is giving odds to the larger stacks to exploit that mistake."

1.) explain how it's a mistake.
2.) explain how it's a bad thing to get "exploited"

7/6/2007 1:55:21 PM

With antes and blinds being that high a big stack is almost obligated by odds to call. If one or two min raises are also in the pot its a pot odds call with any two cards. The point of your raise is to eliminate players and creating a HU situation, not enduce play by the big stacks.

7/6/2007 2:24:53 PM

Bottom line, you don't want a 4 or 5 way pot w/ the range I discussed earlier. That's why I like a larger raise rather than a small in that situation, I just don't like the post-flop c-bet situation regardless.

7/6/2007 2:26:23 PM

Quote :

"With antes and blinds being that high a big stack is almost obligated by odds to call. Positionally dependant. He's obligated to call from the blinds sure, which is A-OK by us, b/c a majority of te time he'll whiff and your c-bet or push over his suspected steal will take the pot. a big stack isnt obligated to call in late on the bubble just b/c he has a big stack. that's poor poker... on both parts.... thinking he is, and if he does. If one or two min raises are also in the pot its a pot odds call with any two cards. what? if one or two raises are in the pot, we arent opening.. i was assuming you were talking about opeing the betting.. obviously you'd react differently with this range if you were 2nd, 3rd, or 4th in... esp. if the voices were strong. again, how do you have pot odds to call with no money in the pot.. its still very much multiway, its not SH at the final table or anything. The point of your raise is to eliminate players and creating a HU situation, not enduce play by the big stacks. i fail to see why a multiway pot is a bad thing when you're getting short near the bubble... the more callers to your raise, and folders to your push it's a good thing.. free money.. and at this stack size, you are trying anything to double up... hell, with this raise and 2 callers, you're close to doubling up just by stealing on the flop... which is still possible on the bubble. plus, who pays you.. dont be scared of the big stacks... they are good to you.. they are more likely to call you with a wider range than a shorty on the bubble.. and your raising range should accomidate this in order to still be ahead of their comfortable calling range. Bottom line, you don't want a 4 or 5 way pot w/ the range I discussed earlier. if you really want it heads up so bad then you push pre with an m of 10 or lower, with anything in that range or better.... it's a completely viable strat, and works well.. hell it usualy builds stacks that will take you to the final 3.... or just to the bubble and not beyond... That's why I like a larger raise rather than a small in that situation, I just don't like the post-flop c-bet situation regardless. if you're ever scared of committing yourself with a c-bet it's better to have just pushed pre anyways "

you read like you're scared of the bubble

the bubble is the time to get crazy and wild

grow a stack to take you deep.


tight tight tight up front

then wicked loose around the bubble

bonggg

[Edited on July 6, 2007 at 3:56 PM. Reason : e]

7/6/2007 3:53:19 PM

Erik Seidel just won bracelet #8 in $5k 2-7 Lowball

7/6/2007 4:17:14 PM

sweetest visor EVER

7/6/2007 4:34:22 PM

I suppose I am weak on the bubble, like I said that's what i'm trying to work on.

But I would still prefer to be in a HU situation more times than not, however I hate open pushing and lowering my range on the bubble, maybe i'm a pansy.

7/6/2007 4:40:49 PM

Quote :

"the bubble is the time to get crazy and wild"

Here's to that. In stt I would get 1st place and 4th place very often, but very rarely 2nd or 3rd.

7/6/2007 4:45:16 PM

so i don't really feel like reading over the last 50 pages or so, but what are the best methods now to get money into a site, and preferably one that allows direct cashouts to my account

7/6/2007 5:26:06 PM

epassport

7/6/2007 6:03:38 PM

The elusive cash game triple up.. LOL




Hand #44149511-1264 at Santa Clarita (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 07/Jul/07 01:02:08

texwins is at seat 0 with $195.
ACEIII is at seat 1 with $153.
topdog25 is at seat 2 with $361.70.
aluminumjewel is at seat 3 with $325.30.
privells17 is at seat 4 with $203.
leadman1 is at seat 5 with $179.80.
The button is at seat 0.

topdog25 posts the small blind of $1.
aluminumjewel posts the big blind of $2.

texwins: -- --
topdog25: -- --
aluminumjewel: -- --
privells17: Js Ts
leadman1: -- --

Pre-flop:

privells17 raises to $7. leadman1 folds. texwins
calls. topdog25 calls. aluminumjewel calls.

Flop (board: 7c 8d 8h):

topdog25 checks. aluminumjewel checks. privells17
bets $22. texwins calls. topdog25 calls.
aluminumjewel folds.

Turn (board: 7c 8d 8h 9s):

topdog25 checks. privells17 bets $64. texwins goes
all-in for $166. topdog25 goes all-in for $332.70.
privells17 goes all-in for $174. topdog25 is returned
$158.70 (uncalled).

River (board: 7c 8d 8h 9s 4d):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

topdog25 shows Qs 8s.
topdog25 has Qs 8s 8d 8h 9s: three eights.
privells17 shows Js Ts.
privells17 has Js Ts 7c 8d 9s: straight, jack high.
texwins shows 6h Ah.
texwins has Ah 7c 8d 8h 9s: a pair of eights.


Hand #44149511-1264 Summary:

$2 is raked from a total pot of $608.
$2 is raked from the main pot of $592.
$0 is raked from side pot #1 of $16.
privells17 wins the main pot $590 with straight, jack high.
privells17 wins the side pot $16 with straight, jack high.
----------------------------------------------------------------



I almost always fold J10s UTG, but I felt like varying my play. I almost never c-bet into 3 people when I miss the flop, but I felt like that flop prolly missed everyone and I could represent the overpair(which comprises a large percentage of my UTG opening range). I almost never hit gutshots when it matters, but then I did.

For the record I was hating life when villain #2 overshoved, but I had him pegged as a total donk that was entirely capable of shoving a naked 8. Against a good player I think I'm almost always drawing dead. But all the stars allign and I win a huge pot.

7/7/2007 1:25:56 AM

Turner is on the leaderboard in the Main event....


Jon Turner 61,000

7/10/2007 7:43:49 AM

Link?

7/10/2007 7:50:35 AM

someone get a fucking link!

7/10/2007 7:53:55 AM

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/event.asp?tourneyID=3482&groupID=309

7/10/2007 8:09:32 AM

you start the ME with 20k right?

7/10/2007 8:35:55 AM

Yep. How many days is this thing?

7/10/2007 8:39:42 AM

Looks like 7.

7/10/2007 8:45:42 AM

what day is it

7/10/2007 8:53:49 AM

• Day 2A – Remaining players from Days 1A & 1B will be combined together and resume play at 12 PM, on Tuesday, July 10, 2007, and play 6 levels.
• Day 2B – Remaining players from Days 1C & 1D will be combined together and resume play at 12 PM, on Wednesday, July 11, 2007, and play 6 levels.
• Day 3 – Remaining players from Days 2A & 2B will be combined together and resume play at 12 PM, on Thursday, July 12, 2007, and play 6 levels.
• Day 4 - play will continue at 12 PM, on Friday, July 13, 2007, and play 6 levels.
• Day 5 - play will continue at 12 PM, on Saturday, July 14, 2007, and play down to 36 players.
• Day 6 - play will continue at 12 PM, on Sunday, July 15, 2007, and play down to 9 players.
• Day 7 - Players will have an off day on Monday, July 16, 2007.
• The Final Table will resume play at 12 PM on Tuesday, July 17, 2007.

[Edited on July 10, 2007 at 8:57 AM. Reason : ]

7/10/2007 8:55:48 AM

I can't imagine playing that much continuous poker

7/10/2007 10:58:16 AM

JonTurner is on espn now

Cant see the pockets though, bc it is setup for HD or something

[Edited on July 10, 2007 at 8:05 PM. Reason : d]

7/10/2007 8:02:59 PM

GG TURNER!

Lost out on ESPN with AK to QQ.

GOOD SHOWING! HE IS ON THE RADAR!

(p.s. I used to beat him... )

7/10/2007 8:21:34 PM

Fucking retarded, I assume it was NL and he got all the money in preflop with AK. It would have also been nice to see how he doubled up his short stack, but no such luck. Thanks a lot ESPN.

7/10/2007 11:41:44 PM

^Since when is the main event not NL?

7/11/2007 2:13:39 AM

it wasn't the main event.

7/11/2007 8:06:47 AM

Wrote this for pocketfives.com about my day 1d... long read, but here ya go:

Never written one of these before, so please forgive poor structure and whatnot.

I arrived about 20 minutes late to a table where I recognized noone. I got to know the kid to my right, who was basically the only really good player at the table. He recently moved to Vegas, shacks with Shannon Shorr, and was playing very good aggressive poker early (and also getting hands - he told me had had AA once and KK twice... in the first level). Big hand with him later. There was a solid, but very tight player in the 7 seat as well (I was in the 9), rest of the table was very weak / bad.

Level 1 (50/100):
Basically no hands this level. Not much to talk about. I flopped 2 pair twice, but no action, basically hit nothing else. I lost a few small pots folding after failed c-bets. I had AK twice and JJ once (only pp all level)... AKx flopped with my JJ, so buh bye. About 19k after the first level.

Level 2 (100/200):
I raised A8s to 500 from hijack, cutoff reraised to 1500... although it was a mistake, I decided to see a flop. Flop KsQsTc, I check called a 2k bet... no need to shove in here this early. Turn rag, check/check... river A. Check, check... he showed ATs... interesting, but meh.

Raised 68d utg, late pos. called. Flop Ax2d3d, I lead for 750, he calls. Turn 4x, oh hi disguised gutshot. I check, he bets 900 on turn, I call, river 8x, check check he shows A9s... meh.

I'm down to about 11k... pick up KK FINALLY!!!! (went all of day 1 last year without AA/KK/or QQ) I raise to 500, same AT guy reraises me to 1500... I'm going all the way with this stack and this player for sure, so I repop to 4600 or so, he says TT no good eh?... and folds.

I picked up JJ in the sb near the end of the level. Tight player in mid pos raises to 600, good player in 7 seat calls, the good player to my right calls from button, I just call from small blind (we're just playing for set value out of position here) and bb calls. Flop 468rainbow. Hmm... checked to orignal raiser who bets 1100, button calls. I muck. Not 100% sure about this fold but I just didn't feel good about the hand. The big blind then called as well. 3 on turn, checked around, 6 on river, bb leads out for 5k! Orig. raiser instantly folds, button thinks forever, and folds... I believe he had 99 or TT as I talked to him after the hand and gathered that. The small blind said he had a straight, not sure if it was 57 or 25, or if he was full of it, but it was a weird hand all around. I'm glad I laid it down on the flop either way. Didn't want to invest too much out of position with somewhat scary board and a hand virtually impossible to improve this early. I ended the level around 14 - 15k.

Level 3 (200/400):
I get J7o early on in the bb and it folds to the good player described at the start in the sb. He limps, I check. Flop A88 rainbow, he leads for 600... I can't resist floating here. Turn 4c (2nd club), he checks... I considered waiting 'til the river here, but decided to try to take it now. I bet 1200, he check/raised to 3600! Now I'm not worried about an 8 at all... pretty sure he has air, but do I want to risk this much this early with nothing here? Yes!... because from conversations with him, I'm sure he knows I'm not prepared to risk too much without a hand right now, so I repopped it 5k more. I also threw out my last 5k chip to do this, which would hopefully have a small psychological effect on him. Anyway, he thought a few seconds, told me he was sure I floated, but nice bet, and folded... WHEW! I showed (only bluff I showed all day), and he said he had 56o but just couldn't pull the trigger (I had 6k behind my 5k raise). Back to 20k starting stack!

Can't remember how, but I dropped back to about 14k in the next 20 minutes, then our table broke. New table... I recognize noone again. I'm in the 6 seat, there's a 70kish stack in the 5 seat, and most players around 25 - 35k. First impression is table's really weak. I fold a few hands then pick up KQo in mid pos. EP opens for unusually low 900 (especially since most raises throughout the day were 3.5 - 4.5xish). Normally I'm just mucking KQo here, but I just felt he wasn't too strong and I'd folded every hand since I moved to the table... I repopped to 2400. The big blind (the AT reraiser), who actually moved with me from the other table, cold called the 2400! But he thought it was 1900 and appeared genuinely frustrated with himself when the dealer informed him... utg raiser also called, but didn't consider reraising at all. Flop was 26T, 2 spades, both checked to me, I fired 4200, both insta-mucked... WHEW! Back to 20k again.

About one orbit later, still around 20k, I pick up 66 in the cutoff. The big stack in the 5 seat raises (and he's raising a lot) to 1250. I flat with 66. Flop A69, 2 clubs.. oh yeah! First set in wsop ME history for me! He leads for 1800... I pop it to 4800, he insta-calls. Turn 2h, he checks, I bet 6600, he immediately asks how much I have left. 7400 or so... Pleeeeeeeeease put me all in sir! Not 5 seconds later, he puts me in A5o, drawing DEAD!

So we're up to 40k 15 minutes before dinner! Here comes the 1 hand I have a lot of regrets about from day 1. About 4 or 5 hands later, I pick up QQ. We make it 1050 in EP, and the small blind, who's been all over the place, reraises to 2600... huh??? I flat in position for pot control. Flop J85, he leads for 4k. I just call, probably a mistake. 4 on the turn, he leads 10k. I tank it. Really regret not folding here, but I call, knowing I'm calling his last 13k on any river. 8 on river, he shoves, I call... 44 zomg lol. I have so many regrets about this hand. Still can't believe it was 44 that he reraised from sb though. Anyhoo... lots of mistakes. So I go to dinner with 7400, sigh.

7/11/2007 2:39:27 PM

Level 4 (200/400/50 ante):
I drop down to 3800 really quickly with a few failed steals and bets to pick up small pots cheap. Nothing worked. Then I pick up KK on the button... hallelujah! Ep opens for 1850 (lol at 4.6x), one caller, I shove, EP isolates the minimum with 66... the caller (the 44 reraiser from earlier) disgusted, folds A9o. Flop A9x, whew! x turn, K river... heh, didn't matter. Up to 10k.

2 or 3 hands later, hi there AA! (another first in wsop ME history for me) Utg opens for 1600 or so, same 44/A9o guy calls again, I shove. No need to make it obvious and raise to 5k. Anyway, utg raiser insta-calls me with AQs, other guy folds. No sweat on the board. Weeeee up to 20k again!

Next 45 minutes, insanely bad. Virtually no steal raises work, all c-bets called or raised. One resteal from small blind against button who raised every button folded to him... big blind re-reraises lol. Buh bye 68o. I fall all the way to 2800 chips... never being all in. I pick up J7s and make it 1450 from mid pos with 1350 behind. Everyone insta-folds. Back to 3900. I fold a few hands and get 79o in the bb. The button, the oldest gentleman to EVER play in the main event, at a startling 94 years old, limps on the button. He'd just been moved to the table about 30 minutes before, only played a few pots, and had never raised preflop. Sb limps, flop comes AQ8, 2 diamonds, I have zilch, but lead for 750 when the sb checks. They both fold. Button tells me he had 99. Weee, hello free chips! That was last hand before break. I go to break with 4950.

Level 5 (300/600/75 ante):
Although I'm extremely short, I'm very used to these situations. First hand back, I have JdTd in the sb. It folds to me (I was going with it if the button raised for sure), and I raise most of my stack. BB shows 93o and folds, but says he would've called with just about anything. I fold the button, and with 6k, raise most of my stack with A2s on the cutoff. Everyone insta-folds... back to about 7600 Next hand, AJs, folds to me, I put in standard raise to 1700, everyone insta-folds again. 9300ish Semi-healthy again! 2 hands later, I pick up AKs, same 1700. Next guy, who reraised me once at the 200/400/50 level, reraises to about 5000. I shove it in, he calls with AQo! T high flop, K on turn, I dodge the J on the river, and I'm up to 20k again! Oh baby! It's the 2nd time I've come back from the dead, and I've never been all in without a dominating hand the whole time!

Next hand, utg, I pick up Td7d... can't resist raising it utg lol. I get 3 callers though! Utoh, I'm done unless I nail it. Q74, 2 spades flop, sb checks, and I've got to take one shot especially since each player has to worry about the others, and I have position on the last player. Anyway, I bet 3200, they all fold very quickly, tyty... up to about 27k!

For the rest of the level, all the pots I played were very small, mostly blind steals. Only two other hands of note:
1) The only hand all day where I actually hit a flop on a steal! I raised J8o in the cutoff and the bb called. Flop 887, he checks, I put out my standard c-bet of 2100. He calls. Turn, 4. Now, this player has been very tricky at times, and I haven't played with him that long so I decide to be a little careful and check behind. I wished later I hadn't though. 3 on river, and he did lead out for 3800. I almost just called, but felt with my image at this time that I definitely had value in raising here. I popped it to 9k, leaving about 12k behind, pretty sure that IF he came back all in, I was folding. He thought for several minutes, had the calling chips ready at one point and the raising chips ready, but finally folded. Maybe hollywooding T9? Maybe laid a 7 down? Really not sure. Anyway, up to about 30k now.
2) Same caller from previous hand raised in EP to 2100, the player I'd played with at both tables flatted, and I repopped to 6800 from the button with 84s. I hadn't repopped a single time at this table, and the original raiser I know needed a big hand to continue here. I wasn't really worried about the caller either as he called several raises, then folded to reraises throughout the day. He also ALWAYS reraised when he had any fairly strong hand. Both insta-folded... I ended the level around 34k.

Level 6 (400/800/100 ante):
Our table broke at the very start of this level, which I was happy about, mainly due to the fact that several players were openly talking (and pretty angrily) about the frequency of my raises. Both of these people stood up and slammed down bluffs on the table triumphantly against me... in back to back hands near the end of the last level. Pretty funny, sad, and frustrating all at the same time.

Oh, also, no disrespect to the 94 year old gentleman at the table, but having him there really slowed down the action. Someone else pretty much always had to put in his ante for him, and virtually every time the action was on him, he had to ask several times how much it was to him, whether there was a raise or no action at all. This all caused us to get in several less hands per level than we should've. But I must say it was pretty awesome to witness him playing. He hovered between 20 and 30k at our table, and although I'm not sure what his stack is now, he did survive the day (no pun intended). Playing from 12 noon - 3:45am, wow. It's grueling for all of us, I can't imagine what it must be like to him! Anyway, what a feat, I hope he manages to make the money, but virtually never raising preflop (he did only once at our table, he raised the min), I don't seem him having much of a shot. Incredible accomplishment nonetheless.

So at my new table, I finally recognize someone... SCTrojans! akl;jshg;kjahs Not who I wanted to see 2 seats to my left with a ~100k stack! two8off was also at the table in the 10 seat, I was in the 3. I knew Frankie Flowers in the 1 seat as well, but he was extremely short. I laid back for about one round to get a feel for the table - not stealing for the first round or so at least. I reraised Frankie's 2400 once to 7k with KQo from the button. He had about 12k to start the hand and I felt his range was very wide. He told me he folded an Ace. Very next hand, I picked up KK, and he limped in. I popped it to 3200 or so and he considered pushing but folded KQ, heh, oh well.

I raised 28o from the hijack to 2100 a round later, and got called by the cutoff. (Just felt like raising the 7 seat's bb) I bet 3800 at a KK4 flop and thankfully got a fold. Finally back up to about 40k now!

I picked up AQo in the small blind a little later, and the button shoved for about 9k. I insta-called. Aside from feeling I was well ahead of his range, I also had another motive... his B.O. was horrible!!! I stood up from the table after I folded just about every hand because I couldn't take it. Wein also got me a package of hot chocolate mix to smell when I needed to breathe. LOL! Anyway, he had 22... and with Annette and Below screaming for an A/Q from the rail, obv I couldn't miss! Rags all the way, 'til, BINK, Q on river! I managed to win a race!!!! ZOMG! Only race all day.

Up to about 50k now, and I used the last 45 minutes of the day to make several resteals now that I had more chips to work with and people were also a bit more inclined to lay down hands since making day 2 is an extra incentive to survive for some people (for some strange reason). I reraised mid position's 2300 to 7400 with JTo from sb, reraised late position with A8o, and also reraised late position with AQo from button... obv in this last one I felt like I had the best hand.

I also raised 66 once near the end from EP, got called by the cutoff. Flop 457, I fired 2900, he raised to 8000. I called. Turn 2, check/check. River T, check/check. I said "one pair," he nodded, so any pair was definitely good. Up to about 60k!

I ended the day, basically at my very highest point with 63k! I believe the average is around 55k, so I don't have a big stack, but I'm in great shape in relation to the blinds. 500/1000/100 ante at next level. Considering how low I was at several points and managed to come back without even having to win a race, I'm just loving my situation! I've scouted out my table for wednesday, and I don't know or recognize any of the players who will be there... Table 175, seat 1.

Sorry about the length, hopefully a few people made it through / found it interesting.

7/11/2007 2:39:50 PM

Oh and from last night's airing, Kirk Morrison raised in EP, and I shoved AK from the sb... bb tanked it for about 3 minutes and called with QQ... Kirk said he had KQ.

Nice of ESPN to pick up the hand from the middle... and to ignore my 2 earlier doubles. But they have to due to time constraints and about 20 minutes of filler material I suppose.

7/11/2007 2:41:54 PM

good stuff ... i survived the read.
best of luck!

7/11/2007 2:58:57 PM

GG

7/11/2007 3:34:30 PM

gl c-flake

7/11/2007 4:40:49 PM

kick ass c-flake... and good to see you posting stories on here again!

7/12/2007 9:28:03 AM

gl turner.

7/12/2007 9:28:39 AM

Jon "Pearljammer" Turner 0

That doesn't look good

7/12/2007 10:49:07 AM

The tournament hasn't even started yet.

[Edited on July 12, 2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ]

7/12/2007 10:56:23 AM

2 of my close buddies busted out of the ME yesterday, too bad for them.


I have a prop bet with a bunch of guys that's going to cost me a shitload if Gus Hansen doesn't bust soon.

Sorry Jon, but I was rooting for you to lose, I have a decent amount of $$ against you.


If I win the prop bet, extra G for me

7/12/2007 11:07:02 AM

Can someone lend me Amarillo Slim in a World Full of Fat People?

7/12/2007 11:19:50 AM

i would if i was in raleigh.

it's a pretty good read actually

7/12/2007 11:22:07 AM

Looks like Jon ended up busting last night, but from the prize pool, looks like he came out with some money....

http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2007-wsop/event-55-world-championship-no-limit-holdem/chip-counts/day2b/Jon%20%22Pearljammer%22%20Turner.htm

7/12/2007 1:58:52 PM