^ he has a point


and

Quote :

"ssclark Rumor has it that you have a pally running around on Eredar. Confirm?"

not that I know of but I'd like one

all of my 60's are horde

7/13/2006 3:19:04 PM

http://pc.ign.com/articles/718/718310p1.html

7/13/2006 4:08:16 PM

I've really lucked out in that all the locks in my guild except for one started running MC about four or five weeks before I did, and there's one other that started one week after I did. I picked up the Felheart Shoulder Pads (after only having half of tier 0) for all of 1 DKP, and all the locks except for the one have at least 6 felheart or better. The guy behind me has 9 less DKP, so it's looking like I'm getting a shitload of Felheart on Sunday.

7/13/2006 4:08:20 PM

sweet bud grats

7/13/2006 4:17:12 PM

i hate old server hardware, went fomr #1 horde guild in naxx to tied for 3rd because our server cant deal with thadd... ugh

7/13/2006 8:01:59 PM

at least you get to see nax... I haven't had a guild to raid with for over a month

7/13/2006 8:41:22 PM

WOOOO

TWIN EMPS DOWN first time ever!

7/13/2006 10:20:32 PM

The new pvp stuff seems stupid.

There's still really no gain to it.

I'm surprised that Blizzard has yet to implement a true guild system that has among other things:

1)Guild bank
2)Guild Tax system
3)Guild Alliances

7/13/2006 10:31:32 PM

Quote :

"WOOOO TWIN EMPS DOWN first time ever!"

hey grats

7/13/2006 11:24:57 PM

^^ cough EvE cough

7/13/2006 11:44:32 PM

guild tax

ha....that will happen

7/13/2006 11:55:54 PM

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1337254&p=1&tmp=1#post1337254

Woah, new rogue review. Looks like the first one was just some cruel joke. Combat daggers can now get AR and weapon expertise.

I think I'll be going with this:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?005302104000000320305002255010020105000000000000000

Combat daggers with some decent pvp talents also. Tough decision between that last point in Lethality and Relentless Strikes.

7/14/2006 12:47:41 AM

rogues join mages in the "bitch on the forums and get an even bigger buff" club

7/14/2006 1:22:14 AM

BRD Soloed with video proof.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=601941&p=1&tmp=1#post601941

7/14/2006 1:34:44 AM

rogue review is definitly shaping up to be one of the best. combat daggers with adrenaline rush is

7/14/2006 2:17:47 AM

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"rogues join mages in the "bitch on the forums and get an even bigger buff" club"

Our review before this was a fucking joke. None of the new talents were accessible by any raid build. Even now most of the new subtlety talents won't be seen by anyone save the 2% of people who go hemo. Evis not scaling is fixed but the difference is almost nothing in pvp and I doubt it's better than SnD even with full raid buffs and 1600ap.

7/14/2006 2:34:08 AM

downed Hakkar tonight for the first time

interesting decently long fight as a priest. Heal MT, heal MT, regen, dispel, get in poison cloud, repeat for like 9 minutes

7/14/2006 8:16:22 AM

^^ hemo ftw

7/14/2006 8:42:31 AM

Damn farming for resist gear sucks. got my 2 friends (hunter/rogue) 2 trinkets apiece from Mara, and both the stam/nr cape. Now to farm for living essences and bloodvine.... . Huhu must die Sun./Mon.

7/14/2006 8:51:40 AM

^fyi there is apparently a bug atm....Sheen of Zanza is reflecting 100% of huhuran's poison volley whatchamafuckit.

7/14/2006 8:57:24 AM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?305020005000000024000000000000000005205013303200150

this will be my build. hemo. and with scaled eviscerate dmg/deadliness, serated blades, and hemo, i'll do just fine on the dmg charts.

[Edited on July 14, 2006 at 11:04 AM. Reason : more]

7/14/2006 11:04:00 AM

Warlocks and Warriors really got hosed with the review system.

7/14/2006 11:08:47 AM

Holy fuck shit christ if this is real: http://hem.bredband.net/b334415/1.12_Patchnotes.txt

Without reading it, essentially, they are fixing every single bug and little annoying thing that still exists in the game.

7/14/2006 12:33:54 PM

^ If only some of that stuff were true.

7/14/2006 12:45:39 PM

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" this will be my build. hemo. and with scaled eviscerate dmg/deadliness, serated blades, and hemo, i'll do just fine on the dmg charts. "

I hope you are joking. Maybe on the damage charts in UBRS. You have so many wasted points it's crazy. Imp SS in a hemo build? Ghostly Strike? Setup? 30 points in Subtlety and you didn't get prep? It seems to me like you missed the entire point of a hemo build...

I wouldn't go hemo for any reason other than PvP.

Sword spec, blade flurry, weapon expertise, dual weild spec, precision >>>>> hemo build

7/14/2006 3:09:27 PM

^im speccing back hemo as soon as i get my AQR.

21/0/30 =O

AQR + 1500 AP = hemo hits harder per 40 energy than SS.

7/14/2006 3:23:04 PM

You guys do realize Blizzard made rogues so that 12 year olds could be good at the game? You're putting way too much thought into this

7/14/2006 3:43:34 PM

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"You guys do realize Blizzard made rogues every class in this game so that 12 year olds could be good at the game? You're putting way too much thought into this "

dont pretend any class has more than 3-4 buttons the press during a fight.

7/14/2006 3:58:44 PM

^^^ maybe so but your offhand hits for 50% less, you don't have a 6% chance to proc an extra attack, you don't get 5% to hit, you don't get +5 weapon skill....

Hemo is a VERY good sword pvp build but a combat build will be better raid dps hands down.

7/14/2006 4:03:39 PM

^^ Have you ever played a warlock?

7/14/2006 4:12:04 PM

I'm just fucking with you, but it can't just be coicidence that every single 12-16 yr old player I knew in WoW (with the exception of 1 who was a druid for some reason ) played a rogue. They have their complexities, but they have to be the easiest class to just pick up and play in the game, with hunters being close second. It' also no coincidence that 90% of all gold farmers are rogues and hunters.

7/14/2006 4:15:45 PM

Quote :

"^^ Have you ever played a warlock?"

I've never understood why Warlocks stack so many debuffs just to hit someone with three Shadowbolts and kill them anyway.

7/14/2006 4:37:54 PM

real patch notes, taken from the PTR:

http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/news-244-1-patch-112-live-on-test-servers-and-patch-notes.html

7/14/2006 4:38:37 PM

^^ winner



all the young people I know play hunters. oddly enough , my cousin and my cousins friends... all of them hunters

[Edited on July 14, 2006 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ^]

7/14/2006 4:39:18 PM

^^ They nerfed ...Zul'Farrak? What the hell?

7/14/2006 4:43:42 PM

Quote :

"not that I know of but I'd like one all of my 60's are horde"

You are Edgewalker, correct? Someone said that they thought you had rolled a pally on another account for Eredar.

And dealing with hunters: the real test comes with pulling and laying traps. There are tons of hunters out there, but most only know how to toss some DPS in the mix. The good ones can pull like pros and know how to FD and Ice Trap when in a bad position.

[Edited on July 14, 2006 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2006 4:44:13 PM

ya I wasn't so sure what the ZF changes were all aobut


and no I'm not edgewalker. the discussion long ago was about warriors and I linked' edge's profile. I used to talk to him a bit, but Im not him.


and i still want a fucking alliance 60 !

[Edited on July 14, 2006 at 10:31 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2006 10:30:13 PM

Can anyone recommend some sites that have tutorials and comman lists for making macros?

7/15/2006 10:31:55 AM

http://www.wowwiki.com

7/15/2006 10:55:06 AM

Anub'Rakhan down =)

Quote :

"maybe so but your offhand hits for 50% less, you don't have a 6% chance to proc an extra attack, you don't get 5% to hit, you don't get +5 weapon skill...."

lol, of course. But if you factor in the extra 210 damage every 3-4 seconds, it makes the loss seem bearable. 18/33 20/31 get boring. I'm only excited because I can break the monotny of 1333333ohsnapRIPOSTE!53333333RIPOSTE!5.

[Edited on July 15, 2006 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2006 2:21:44 PM

so raiding is cool and all but the most fun i've ever had playing this game is trying to 2 or 3 man really stupid shit that shouldn't be 2 or 3 mannable

7/16/2006 4:19:55 AM

BTW if anyone wants a 60 gnome mage with epics, keyed for everything including naxx, toss me a PM. Character is on Aegwyen. PVP instances key up within minutes, I've never waited more than 15 minutes even in the early AM.

Love the character and the game but RL > game. Just don't have the time or really desire the play long hours anymore. PM me for details.

7/16/2006 9:29:56 AM

what's a good drain tanking build for leveling warlocks?

7/16/2006 3:56:20 PM

Dark Pact (32/8/11). http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlocks/talents.html?05002305122011451035000000000000005050000100000000

7/16/2006 4:05:31 PM

cool, thanks


should i go all affliction up to 40, or spread out points differently and then respec at 40 for DP?

warlock was the first character i made and i got it to lvl 25 before getting bored with it (probabaly wasn't playing it very well).

i then made a warrior which is now lvl 43, and i want to start leveling the lock again. i have a free respec currently from one of the patches, so it sounds like i should go all affliction with it (i think i have 16 points to spend).

7/16/2006 4:25:04 PM

With 16 points, I'm not entirely sure, but off the top of my head I'd say the first priority is Fel Concentration.

5/5->imp Corruption
2/2->imp. Life Tap
3/5->imp. Life Drain
5/5->fel concentration

Then your priority is getting to Shadowburn, so you want to work up to that via imp. Shadow Bolt and Bane.

But I'm not sure.

7/16/2006 4:39:32 PM

kk cool, thanks


if i keep putting points in imp. shadow bolt and bane en route to shadowburn, i'll get to shadowburn at lvl 35.

from there, i should put points in something til lvl 40 and then respec to 31 affliction to get DP?

7/16/2006 4:47:22 PM

Go with Affliction for leveling/grinding. Go for Nightfall, then hit Dark Pact. You can put the other points in Demonology until the mid 50s. Somewhere around 55 respec to MD/Ruin.

It will amaze you how fast you can grind/level with DP. Unfortunately it takes a little time, and its sorta uncomfortable learning how to go from Life Tapping to Dark Pact. Took me a little while before I found a good rhythm. Then making the shift to MD/Ruin is like a whole different playstyle that is strangely refreshing.

7/16/2006 5:18:52 PM

so you think MD/Ruin is better than SM/Ruin then?

i guess you could just use a succubus with MD and have the same effect as the SM.

7/16/2006 5:21:30 PM

I like it more right now, but I'm only 59 and not yet raiding. I can see where you'd wanna go SM/Ruin for raids, because you'll be expected to have an imp out for Blood Pact. SM would therefore make up for some of the lost damage off MD. But with MD you get 20% off threat/aggro if you've got the imp out, so you can unload a little more liberally and not worry about ganking a mob.

But I've heard/read where locks will just sacrifice a demon for a raid and get the additional bonus for whatever they want. *shrug* It's all about personal preference and what your guild expects out of you in raids.

7/16/2006 6:23:54 PM