A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Per sources, Trump is now considering a 2024 run. He can continue fleecing donors fundraising and scream political persecution about future legal and financial problems.
On the plus side, maybe it's finally dawned on Trump that he won't be president for the next 4 years. It'll be interesting to see how other GOPers planning a 2024 run respond. Trump continuing to dominate right-wing media can't be good for them. 11/9/2020 3:19:25 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
COVID really let me down on this one. 11/9/2020 6:52:26 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
He's continuing to act a fool. How does this play out? 11/9/2020 8:51:38 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
This probably ends with him exhausting every option until Biden becomes president-elect. Democrats expects him to just lay down and give up the moment things look grim after he has ran on "Joe Biden will destroy our country" because thats what our leaders do to us. Giving up now and aiding Biden would make him complicit in the eyes of his supporters. 11/9/2020 10:58:53 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, I don't think anyone who has been paying attention expects him to give up. I'm more wondering how long does it go and how insane does it get and how much damage does it do to democratic institutions. 11/10/2020 7:16:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Democrats expects him to just lay down and give up the moment things look grim" |
no i don't think anybody is particularly surprised at what he's doing. he's doing pretty much exactly what he said he'd do.11/10/2020 11:55:52 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^ 11/10/2020 12:11:13 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Pompeo reaffirming his position on the Trump train. These people are fantastic at being continuously horrible. 11/10/2020 2:42:32 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I think this might be terrifying
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pompeo-smooth-transition-second-trump-administration-435754
(^) 11/10/2020 3:28:40 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Someone on CNN said that previous presidents always conceded because at the end of the day, they knew they were all on the same team and that really stuck with me. Trump is definitely not on the same team and that was his whole appeal whether you like his team or not. 11/10/2020 3:47:35 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump is definitely not on the same team" |
Yeah, we know. There's Team America and there's Team Putin, and I often wonder which side you are on.
LOL
Nah...in all seriousness, I don't have to wonder about that at all.11/10/2020 4:01:21 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not on either side. I'm on the side of the people even though they don't know it. Trump has convinced the MAGA crowd that he cares about them and the establishment has convinced the BLUEMAGA folks that they care about them when in reality both have their own interests and are simply using their followers to consolidate power.
Sometimes it may seem like I'm rooting for Trump but the reality is that I find Trump a useful asset who can drive division that helps expose the establishment while also exposing himself. People realizing that the media, democrats and deep state is half the battle and Trump is helping to fight that fight because we just don't have the numbers to do it on our own.
Of course, if it was the other way around and Trump had a lot more power than the other side, I would be rooting for the party trying to undermine Trump but make no mistake, the end goal is to get rid of both of them. Trump being crushed doesn't help and the threat he presents, at the very least, forces the establishment to relax their boots off our throats just a little bit so we have more energy to fight Trump. Thats progress.
[Edited on November 10, 2020 at 4:13 PM. Reason : trump is like checks and balances on the establishment]
[Edited on November 10, 2020 at 4:14 PM. Reason : i voted for hawkins btw] 11/10/2020 4:12:50 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
How do we define the teams? People who have some measure of concern about the fate of the country and the world and those who devote themselves to a narcissistic demagogue? I have leaned conservative since upbringing, but I also have a baseline moral compass that cannot be so misaligned that voting for President Trump seems justifiable. The man is horrendous.
[Edited on November 10, 2020 at 4:15 PM. Reason : Reason.] 11/10/2020 4:13:12 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
I’m not at all surprised trump is doing this. I am mildly surprised that some of the GOP winners from this election are still trying to hitch their wagon to a losing candidate. I get that Trump is the face of the GOP so tying yourself to him plays well with the base. But he’s also a loser. Do you really wanna hitch your wagon to a one loser? 11/10/2020 4:22:05 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Trump's Post-Presidential Criminal Nightmare Begins Now
https://youtu.be/lraKre-pidw
This is going to be a hot potato for the new government. 11/10/2020 4:29:47 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25503 Posts user info edit post |
^^to answer my own question, I guess it’s because the GOP wanna keep voters energized to win in GA runoff. But again, if your premise is that the votes are fraudulent...would that not dampen turnout because it’s all rigged anyways? 11/10/2020 6:22:29 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully! 11/10/2020 7:49:05 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm on the side of the people even though they don't know it." |
Yeah, that's an old worn out phrase that I've come to expect bullshitters to preach.
At least you're reading your lines well. Kudos.11/10/2020 10:54:05 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Except I have my entire history of voting record and policies to support it.
Why does coming on here fighting for the billionaire class, wall street, and the political elite give you such an edge?
[Edited on November 11, 2020 at 12:33 AM. Reason : you are more similar to poor russians than bezos or zuckerberg but you class front to feel important] 11/11/2020 12:29:56 AM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7144 Posts user info edit post |
Trump got at least 2 fingers up the butt of all supporters...not surprising they still back him. The mf probably win in 2024 too. 11/11/2020 12:40:59 AM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Except I have my entire history of voting record and policies to support it." |
I, on the other hand, merely have your word. Which is worthless.
Quote : | "Why does coming on here fighting for the billionaire class, wall street, and the political elite give you such an edge?" |
I never claimed to even have an edge; are you confusing me with someone else? I merely like to point out bullshit when I see it.
At any rate--Unlike you, I am not a pompous ass.11/11/2020 1:20:19 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
They are really upset about the idea of Trump pulling troops out. McMaster was just on CNN saying it could leave us at risk of another 9/11. Unbelievable they think people believe 9/11 will happen again if we had a 60 day drawdown of presence.
They are also saying Esper was fired because he opposed troop withdrawal. 11/16/2020 9:29:51 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
5 tweets today about Cousin Eddie. 11/24/2020 6:29:00 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe he was looking for tips on how to avoid American authorities by hiding out in Canada. 11/24/2020 8:44:40 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
This didn't have to be this bad. If only Trump had told Biden's supporters not to celebrate in massive crowds... 11/24/2020 10:27:23 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Non sequitur. 11/25/2020 6:54:05 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
In like Flynn. Just the latest of many pardons of cronies, I'm sure. 11/25/2020 8:53:38 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
Definitely needs to be a Constitutional amendment to prevent a President from pardoning anyone for crimes related to himself 11/26/2020 9:57:42 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
I was thinking that myself. It's an interesting power, but it shouldn't be unchecked, and any law regarding it should also preclude self-pardoning. Dumb that this would need to be spelled out so explicitly. 11/26/2020 10:59:56 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I guess the expectation was that Congress would always have the balls to actually get rid of a blatantly corrupt President. Clearly that was wrong 11/26/2020 11:10:24 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Clearly. But pretty much every modern President has made a few questionable pardons. Especially at end of presidency. 11/26/2020 11:29:42 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Now he's saying in order for him to leave, Joe Biden has to provide evidence his 80,000,000 votes were not fraudulent. 11/27/2020 3:17:51 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^Wow, that's just the kind of bullshit someone like you would pull. 11/27/2020 7:35:25 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Cool
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-department-investigating-bribery-conspiracy-scheme-presidential-pardon-documents 12/1/2020 10:03:02 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
The internets rumor that the person is Joe Exotic, Tiger King. 12/2/2020 2:03:41 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I’m seeing it’s someone with a last name that ends with s based on how the redactions were done 12/2/2020 7:35:47 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37674 Posts user info edit post |
My God they're doing it
Quote : | "Here's Lin Wood telling Georgia Republicans NOT to vote for Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue next month.
"They have not earned your vote. Don't you give it to them. Why would you go back and vote in another rigged election for god's sake! Fix it! You gotta fix it!" https://t.co/Uvj1QIpqFL" |
12/2/2020 8:10:40 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Putting on my tin hat...
What if...what if... the QANON theory is right that Trump is secretly working against a deep state to help save the republic but it turns out that he is actually a sleeper cell working to expose the blatant hypocrisy and embarrassingly repugnant stances they'll take to stay in power. He and his attorneys created the false stolen election narrative to further secure the senate for the democrats and help Obama and Biden establish a just and prudent America.
If that were the case, would that be enough for his base to break strides with him or would they jump on board and become hardlined democrats? 12/2/2020 9:42:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ Trump is just a scum bag. Look at his business history, he’s stabbed anyone in the back he’s worked with. He had dozens of lawsuits where he’s been sued for screwing over his business partners and contractors. I told someone in 2016 that if they vote for trump he’s going to stab his supporters in the back just like everyone he’s ever worked with, and this is what he’s doing with the gop. They’re not circling the wagons the way he wants to help him cheat so now he’s doing what he’s always done.
On a separate note, the gates in this lawsuit is who’s possibly investigated for trying to buy a pardon: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/ivanka-trump-deposition/index.html 12/2/2020 10:34:47 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26094 Posts user info edit post |
Last name ends in S. Checks out! 12/2/2020 10:50:20 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
NYT: Covid-19 Live Updates: Trump Officials Passed When Pfizer Offered to Sell More Vaccine Doses in Late Summer
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/07/world/covid-19-coronavirus#trump-covid-vaccine-pfizer 12/7/2020 6:12:35 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Weird spin but ok. they didn't join warp speed. we have moderna coming and its in partnership with the government. 12/7/2020 6:54:24 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It's not spin, it's just another typical result of Trump's complete inaction on COVID. The entire thing to him was nothing but an inconvenience and even though he almost DIED from it, he came out learning absolutely nothing, showing ZERO remorse.
I gotta tell ya, if we wanted to get into a cherry picking contest of predictions that ended up becoming "truth bombs" from this thread:
https://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=648215
I'd be I’d be walking out with at least 3/4ths of a bushel.
dtownral, and to a way lesser extent, JesusHChrist, would both be coming back with sour grapes instead of cherries.
YOU, on the other hand, would still be in the tool shed huffing paint thinner, while simultaneously recording yourself on TikTok, watching YouTube tutorials that explain how to tie a maraschino cherry stem into a knot with your tongue. FFS dude, you're STILL part of the problem.
Ugh. I'm outta here for a bit. 12/7/2020 8:39:24 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
So an entire post of hyperbole and metaphor with no explicit statements followed by a resignation. Cool. I like to operate under "what if this person is right" and if you are right and have all the wisdom you aren't even making an attempt to share it.
Therefore you'd be complicit in my ignorance for not explaining a single point and thats the best case scenario when operating under the assumption that the knowledge you have is golden. 12/7/2020 9:17:53 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Once again the media taking advantage of the general public not understanding science. People are genuinely upset to hear that Trump could have bough more Pfizer doses way before we know which vaccine would work or make it through trial first.
"Why didn't Trump just buy all Pfizer vaccines before phase 3 clinical trials?" stories all over the place 12/9/2020 9:29:19 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
The deal offered was that we wouldn't have had to pay for any of it unless it cleared all trials, was approved, etc...i.e. no risk up front. But you already knew that didn't you? 12/10/2020 9:07:25 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Probably not. 12/19/2020 1:34:37 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
He can save some face by vetoing this heist of a bill. 12/22/2020 11:01:41 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
^LMAO. I wonder if he reads TWW. Am I advising the president?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/22/trump-covid-stimulus-bill-450204
Quote : | "Trump said the package provides too much funding to foreign countries and should include more for American families and small businesses. He asked that Congress amend the bill to increase the $600 stimulus payments going to individuals and families to $2,000, or $4,000 for couples.
“Congress found plenty of money for foreign countries, lobbyists and special interests, while sending the bare minimum to the American people who need it,” he said.
House Democrats quickly capitalized on Trump’s demand for $2,000 checks, announcing plans Tuesday night to try to pass a bill later this week doing just that." |
This is the way.12/22/2020 10:17:56 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7144 Posts user info edit post |
^A broken clock is right twice a day lmao! 12/23/2020 12:05:07 AM |