with the lack of FA o-linemen this year, if they let adams walk, they'll probably have to use a 1st or 2nd rd pick to address that

1/3/2008 2:14:46 PM

Quote :

"one rumor out there is that they'd trade their #1 pick and #2 to the bears(so they can get brohm) for their #1 pick and lance briggs and then move vrabel back inside"

even the bears wouldnt go for that insanity

and I'm not so sure te Pats would wat to go the Daniel Snyder route after Belichick's way has brought them so much success

and RB is probably the last position the Giants are looking at

Derrick Ward, Ahmad Bradshaw, Bradon Jacobs, Reuben Droughns(bleh)

NY definitely has one of the more talented backfields in the nfl and has for a while



we will most likely go defense...looking for a corner or LB

I've heard we're looking at Talib

1/3/2008 2:24:32 PM

^^ that may be true however the Cowboys drafted 2 OT last year Doug Free from Illinois and James Marten of BC in the middle rounds they have also been developing Pat McQuistain for a couple years. If any of these 3 have proved anything in practice this year, there may be no need to go OT in the draft.

1/3/2008 2:45:03 PM

^^ a lot of draft "experts" have them picking rice from rutgers

1/3/2008 3:06:07 PM

Rice isn't gonna do shit in the pros

1/3/2008 3:09:48 PM

i agree

1/3/2008 3:16:28 PM

stewart and charles may end up being the best two rb's in this draft

1/3/2008 3:25:52 PM

Quote :

"^^ a lot of draft "experts" have them picking rice from rutgers"

well i really hope they dont know what theyre talking about

the very LAST thing we need is to spend a first rounder on a RB

i would be pretty insulted if i was brandon jacobs or derrick ward

and the front office has to know that

we need to put first round talent into many other places before we put it at RB

1/3/2008 3:28:12 PM

when i get some time this weekend (while playing in poker tournaments online) I'll do a "what I would do if i was that team" mock draft

[Edited on January 3, 2008 at 3:50 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2008 3:50:27 PM

other than QBs (all of whose stock I think is VERY sketchy) who will be the slider?

1/3/2008 4:39:25 PM

i dont see anyone sliding a lot at this point unless they have a horrible combine or get injured or get arrested

1/3/2008 4:48:11 PM

Brennan will slide I think, based on the fact that early this season I heard some sports knowledgable people talking about him being a top 10 pick. I think he is a 2nd round pick.

As far as QB's go I think Ainge(sp?) might jump up in the combine. Big guy, great arm, didn't get much credit this year but had some games he really played solid.

1/3/2008 10:16:38 PM

^Jaybee alias ???? ha just messin

1/4/2008 12:16:46 AM

i was talking about in my mock draft.

yea brennan will slide a bit

1/4/2008 12:23:38 AM

rd 2 coming soon

1/4/2008 8:23:30 PM

just giving you guys the mock draft from rivals.com

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=749667

1/5/2008 7:58:15 AM

I read a report on one site that suggested that Jerry Jones is in love with McFadden and is going to try and move up to get him. So I think you'll see a big-time trade for them to move up to #1 since I have a feeling Parcells will want to move out of that pick and get a bunch of picks.

I could see 1-2 decent player(s) and their 2 #1's to move up and select McFadden #1 overall.

Maybe Miami can turn this into the Manning-Rivers trade and turn their franchise around, haha.

1/5/2008 11:09:28 AM

And wipe Manningham off of all of the lists, latest report is he's staying for his senior year to finish up his degree.

1/5/2008 1:55:17 PM

Quote :

"Wait... that site doesn't even have the right order. The Jets are in the 6th slot..."

I don't know for sure why we're 6th. We tied 3 teams at 4-12 and our division record and conference record is tied with Oakland.

I'm assuming it'll be cleared up once espn stops asking me for my money to clear it up OR I do more research on my own.

1/6/2008 12:34:27 AM

If KC drafts McFadden I'll go and kill Carl Peterson myself. The Chiefs need to rebuild the O-line that they inexplicably allowed to age and age and age with no replacements waiting in the wing, they need to improve the defense, and they need to look for a long term fix at QB. The Chiefs have not even attempted to draft and develop a QB since Todd Blackledge in 1984.

IMO, the perfect move for them would be to drop down a couple of spots and take Brian Brohm or stay where they are and hope Jake Long falls to them. Hell, I wouldn't mind a sign and trade with McFadden for either Brohm or more picks. Ultimately I don't think another first round RB pick is in KC's best interest.

1/6/2008 12:43:12 AM

NFL doesn't do sign and trade....this is because any signing bonus would count against the original team's salary cap. That being said a team drafting a player holds that player's rights until the next draft. They can be traded without being signed to a contract ala P.Riv - Eli

1/6/2008 12:55:22 PM

Post-national championship... Whose stock has risen/fallen?

Ive heard alot saying Dorsey's stock will go up. Makes sense to me, but, being an LSU fan I feel like I may be biased.

Will larionitus (sp?) from Ohio state's drop?

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 11:24 AM. Reason : edit]

1/9/2008 11:23:18 AM

Slaton's injury cause him to drop maybe? He might stick around anyway.

I really liked what I saw in Aqib Talib, the corner from Kansas, he would be good for Dallas. Or Antione Cason, the corner/returner from Arizona. Dallas has never had a good kick returner it seems since Hayes. Hell maybe they will pick a 1st round CB and take Blackman in the 7th round or something.

1/9/2008 12:01:44 PM

I think the Dolphins will try to trade their pick to get some players and/or additional picks. If not, look for them to take defesne, probably Dorsey.

1/9/2008 12:24:32 PM

Speaking of Blackman, how many State players do you see being drafted and which rounds?

I think Demario is our only player that will definitely get drafted, and will go no later than the fourth round. After that I'm unsure. I really think Blackman will get drafted probably in one of the late rounds. Kick returners like him don't come along all that often. He's what 3rd all time in the ACC? Starting field position can make or break close games. I could see a team making a leap of faith and drafting Stone in the 8th round simply b/c of how good he looked at TE this year. I think Dunlap could be drafted late as well, but will more than likely have to go the FA route.

1/9/2008 12:29:50 PM

I doubt Laurenaitis' stock will drop much after the national championship game, he didnt have too bad of a game even though the Buckeyes as a whole did.

But, its all speculation now because he hasnt declared for the draft yet, as far as I know

1/9/2008 12:30:52 PM

larionitus (sp?) I still think goes to the Pats. He just seems like the prototypical NE linebacker.

The dolphins really need to trade down and get picks.

The player who might have done the most for himself and is now coming out might be Ray Rice. He had the best bowl game out of any RB(although it was against a joke def). I could see his stock rising, he is durable, decent speed and an all around good rb.

1/9/2008 12:31:02 PM

Chris Johnson is the next Josh Cribbs/Devin Hester

1/9/2008 12:54:22 PM

Don't post Josh Cribbs in the same breath as Devin Hester you Browns Homer.

1/9/2008 1:28:58 PM

Quote :

"I don't know for sure why we're 6th. We tied 3 teams at 4-12 and our division record and conference record is tied with Oakland."

The Jets are picking last in the 4-12 group because they had the hardest/best strength of schedule.

1/9/2008 1:45:30 PM

^^Quit crying. It's not my fault your team looked like garbage last weekend just like everyone knew they would

Devin Hester averaged 21 yard per kick return with two touchdowns
Cribbs averaged 30 yards per kick return with 2 touchdowns

Hester averaged 15 yards per punt with 4 touchdowns
Cribbs averaged 13 yards with one touchdown

dont' forget that Cribbs had like three touchdowns called back because of holding

Without Cribbs, Browns lose two more games, easily

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 1:58:23 PM

Probably, I just felt like making you get all worked up and run off to NFL.com and start to look up stats.

1/9/2008 2:35:02 PM

you're so clever

1/9/2008 2:36:29 PM

laurinaitis staying for sr yr

http://ohiostate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=761724

1/14/2008 8:49:11 PM

same with Brian Robiske and Malcolm Jenkins off of the Buckeyes

I dont know if Robiske would get drafted, but Jenkins was a first rounder

[queue the Ohio State flaming]

1/14/2008 9:30:52 PM

Add Manningham, and Felix Jones to the list of players headed to the draft. Both should go fairly high.

1/14/2008 10:01:47 PM

Slaton too right?

1/14/2008 10:37:48 PM

yup

1/14/2008 10:40:41 PM

Wonder who NE will get now, I think everyone thought Laurinaitis was the perfect fit for them.

1/14/2008 11:48:33 PM

Dan Connor is/was a senior right? I could see the Pats going after him or Keith Rivers.

if they are leaning toward a LB

1/15/2008 1:31:20 PM

Quote :

"19. PHI - Michael Oher, OT"

http://olemiss.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=&script=content.asp&cid=762590&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

1/16/2008 8:43:50 PM

OAK doesn't want to put out top 10 money, 'Boys trade up with their 2 first round picks



Just saw this and didn't know where to post it. Garrett to stay in Dallas and is now highest paid assistant. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3200822

[Edited on January 17, 2008 at 4:11 PM. Reason : ..]

1/17/2008 4:08:28 PM

it isn't a good sign for your job security when the people that supposidly work below you are getting paid as much. he'll be the head coach after next year, and in the middle of the next year if they get off to a slow start.

1/17/2008 4:56:25 PM

Quote :

"Just saw this and didn't know where to post it. Garrett to stay in Dallas and is now highest paid assistant. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3200822"

nfl offseason thread, n00b

/message_topic.aspx?topic=508257

[Edited on January 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM. Reason : link]

1/17/2008 5:26:46 PM

Darrell Blackman was selected for Joe DeFranco's NFL Combine Prep Program. He is a top trainer who has turned some pro prospects into animals. We should be able to view more videos of him training via youtube. Her is the first...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NhvISlxCqVs

[Edited on January 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM. Reason : ...]

1/19/2008 4:09:05 PM

here's rivals.com mock draft...some interesting picks on here

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=749667

Quote :

" 1. Miami (1-15) The Pick: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College The buzz: The Dolphins begin the Parcells era with a 'winner' at the game's most important position. 2. St. Louis (3-13) The Pick: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU The buzz: Dorsey is a dominant inside force that is much needed along the Rams front four. x - 3. Atlanta (4-12) The Pick: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas* The buzz: The Falcons must rebuild, especially at QB, but McFadden would be too good to pass on here. x - 4. Oakland (4-12) The Pick: Chris Long, DE, Virginia The buzz: Al Davis might continue the old Raider lineage with this selection. x - 5. Kansas City (4-12) The Pick: Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville The buzz: The Chiefs are a total offensive disaster this season, and the quarterback spot is their highest priority. 6. N.Y. Jets (4-12) The Pick: Jake Long, OT, Michigan The buzz: The Jets want to land a blue-chip offensive lineman, and Long is a fine bookend tackle. 7. New England (From San Francisco (5-11)) The Pick: Kenny Phillips, FS, Miami* The buzz: The Patriots are looking for another impact defender in their changing secondary. 8. Baltimore (5-11) The Pick: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami* The buzz: The Ravens want one of the top two quarterbacks, but may have to draft into other deep areas of this class. 9. Cincinnati (7-9) The Pick: Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State* The buzz: The Bengals defense gives up too many big plays and needs a force off the edge. 10. New Orleans (7-9) The Pick: Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma* The buzz: The Saints defense gets smoked weekly, and Smith is one of the elite cornerbacks. 11. Buffalo (7-9) The Pick: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC The buzz: The Bills wants more playmakers, especially on the inside. 12. Denver (7-9) The Pick: Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.* The buzz: The Broncos offensive line must improve for QB Jay Cutler to take the next step as an NFL starter. 13. Carolina (7-9) The Pick: Keith Rivers, LB, USC The buzz: The Panthers backer unit would benefit from another strong defender. 14. Chicago (7-9) The Pick: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky The buzz: The Bears are hoping to land a future offensive leader in the first round. 15. Detroit (7-9) The Pick: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida* The buzz: The Lions must improve their outside pass rush to be a playoff contender. 16. Arizona (8-8) The Pick: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona The buzz: The Cardinals secondary must improve for this team to make the postseason. 17. Minnesota (8-8) The Pick: DeSean Jackson, WR, California* The buzz: The Vikings are looking for playmakers on the outside and in the return game. 18. Houston (8-8) The Pick: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma* The buzz: The Texans are looking to add a standout playmaker opposite Andre Johnson. 19. Philadelphia (8-8) The Pick: Dan Connor, LB, Penn St The buzz: The Eagles want to solidify their front seven, and this local product will be a fan favorite. 20. Tampa Bay (9-7) The Pick: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas* The buzz: The Bucs' are looking to rebuild a playoff-caliber defense, especially at cornerback. 21. Washington (9-7) The Pick: Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern Cal The buzz: The Redskins are hoping to draft an impact pass rusher at this spot. 22. Dallas (from Cleveland (10-6)) The Pick: Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan* The buzz: The Cowboys have big problems in their receiving corps and at cornerback. 23. Pittsburgh (10-6) The Pick: Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College The buzz: The Steelers hope to address their offensive line, especially tackle, early in the draft. 24. Tennessee (10-6) The Pick: James Hardy, WR, Indiana* The buzz: The Titans need to add playmakers in their passing game. 25. Seattle (10-6) The Pick: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois* The buzz: The Seahawks are looking to the future with Shawn Alexander on the downside of his career. 26. Jacksonville (11-5) The Pick: Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech* The buzz: The Jaguars are looking to improve in pass coverage, and this corner can help. y - 27. NY Giants (10-6) The Pick: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida The buzz: G-Men need another top-flight cover man opposite last year's pick, Aaron Ross. y - 27. San Diego (11-5) The Pick: Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon* The buzz: The Chargers will lose veteran runner Michael Turner and LaDainian Tomlinson enters his eighth season next fall. y - 29. Green Bay (13-3) The Pick: Sam Baker, OT, Southern Cal The buzz: The Packers will look to address their tackle spot. Both starters will be older than 30 next season. y - 30. Dallas (13-3) The Pick: DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College The buzz: The Cowboys secondary has problems in coverage, and they will be address the corner spot with one of their two No. 1 selections. y - 31. San Francisco (From Indianapolis (13-3)) The Pick: Early Doucet, WR, LSU The buzz: The 49ers offense needs to upgrade their weak receiving corps if Alex Smith is too ever to realize his pro potential. y - 32. New England (16-0) The Pick: no pick The Buzz: Pick forfeited. "

1/21/2008 9:18:00 AM

Why would the Panthers draft another LB when they have holes everywhere? My pick would be Ryan Clady. Travelle Wharton was horrible last year. Also, there's no way Calais Campbell going that high.

1/21/2008 10:39:33 AM

I'd say our needs include LB, but you're right, we have bigger needs. But we always tend to go defense in the first-round under Fox. So if Kenny Phillips isn't available I could see us going LB or DE.

But I'd love a stand-out OL, but sometimes you can find solid OL in later rounds so hopefully one way or another we'll end up with a solid OL.

The Stewart to SD was kind of a surprise to me, I mean I know they are losing Turner but Sproles and Nene(sp) seem to be decent back-ups. But I did see where SD had the most projected cap-room for next year, so they'll likely make some moves in the off-season including OL(if Goff retires), S, and WR.

1/21/2008 11:01:07 AM

IMO, the Panthers' number 1 priority should be OT. I mean, we're down to the 4th QB last year for god's sake.

1/21/2008 11:55:29 AM

maybe we can trade david carr for a lb wr s ot 7th round pick new asst turf manager?

1/21/2008 12:02:11 PM