ambrosia please don't be fat and acne ridden and give people nutritional advice

2/12/2009 11:56:42 PM

ambro, growing your own is an EXCELLENT point Mucho cheaper, if you don't count the personal time invested


I prefer my own produce. (although this takes available pots/acerage)

2/12/2009 11:56:59 PM

^ not to mention I think there is a certain amount of satisfaction in knowing that the food you are eating was grown with your own two hands

2/12/2009 11:58:17 PM

cabbage and lentils will feed 2 people like 4 times for $3 or less

2/12/2009 11:58:30 PM

I wish I could grow my own... living in a concrete jungle fucking sucks

2/12/2009 11:58:34 PM

And how environmentally friendly it is compared to what's available in the grocery stores.

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"ambrosia please don't be fat and acne ridden and give people nutritional advice "

I know you've got a hard-on for me, but for once, there's a semi-serious, helpful thread in chit chat. Stay on topic.

^Do you not have anywhere to container garden?

[Edited on February 12, 2009 at 11:59 PM. Reason : fljg]

2/12/2009 11:59:20 PM

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"cabbage and lentils will feed 2 people like 4 times for $3 or less"

Haha, that reminds me of the variation problems from middle school!!!

If $3 of cabbage and lentils can feed 2 people for 4 times, how much cabbage and lentils (in $) would be needed to feed 3 people for 10 times????

2/13/2009 12:00:43 AM

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"ambrosia please don't be fat and acne ridden and give people nutritional advice"

TKO!!!

2/13/2009 12:01:45 AM

I grow my own herbs, but since i rent then I have not had the chance to get a full on garden going. My friend lives on 6 acres and already has a pretty nice garden going, so I think I am going to convince her to let me start my own out there

2/13/2009 12:02:36 AM

i bet if you offered to help w/ the labor, you could increase the size of garden, and share. I know I split my crop w/ all involved.

2/13/2009 12:04:15 AM

that's the plan. she has plenty of room and is all about it. I want to grow a variety of peppers, and she has none of those in there now. She also has no tomatoes or cucumbers, so I would like to get those going. between the two of us we could have a pretty badass little garden.

2/13/2009 12:10:09 AM

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"And even with the wholegrain rice, you can't just have rice with chicken breast."

duh, it wasn't a meal suggestion. it was a suggestion for 2 foods. obviously you need vegetables. doh.

2/13/2009 12:12:02 AM

^ like the frozen FL mixed veggies I suggested

2/13/2009 12:13:11 AM

calm down

but, you did say 'rice', without qualifying it. so, i got you there at least

2/13/2009 12:13:58 AM

well geez louise does everything need to be qualified haha. well i guess if you are asking how to eat healthy maybe i should have been more specific. but it seemed like common sense

2/13/2009 12:16:42 AM

COMMON SENSE ON TWW???

SCORPIONS IN MY VAGINA???

MEN ON MARS???

2/13/2009 12:19:47 AM

getting specific on "healthy" is all about the qualifiers. Not all foods in all situations are optimal/healthy.

you could vaguely say "eat lots of fruits/veggies w/ a major protein source"

[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 12:22 AM. Reason : ]

2/13/2009 12:21:04 AM

and with the right amount of physical activity, you can pretty much eat whatever you want to

look at Phelps

2/13/2009 12:22:14 AM

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"and with the right amount of physical activity, you can pretty much eat whatever you want to look at Phelps"

No, you can't. Eating shit will still affect your health negatively and catch up with you one day. One day very soon.

BTW, for those who are curious:

message_topic.aspx?topic=538904

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7562840.stm

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"MICHAEL PHELPS' DIET Breakfast: Three fried egg sandwiches; cheese; tomatoes; lettuce; fried onions; mayonnaise; three chocolate-chip pancakes; five-egg omelette; three sugar-coated slices of French toast; bowl of grits; two cups of coffee Lunch: Half-kilogram (one pound) of enriched pasta; two large ham and cheese sandwiches with mayonnaise on white bread; energy drinks Dinner: Half-kilogram of pasta, with carbonara sauce; large pizza; energy drinks "

2/13/2009 12:42:04 AM

I eat endless amounts of oatmeal (insanely cheap), whole wheat pasta (stock up on triple coupon weekend and its pennies per meal) and whey protein. In fact, that's currently all I have in my pantry. (Plus a daily multivitamin) At the rate I'm going, my monthly power bill exceeds my grocery bill. But I admit my diet is strange.

2/13/2009 12:53:06 AM

^^ so you are saying that is a healthy diet?

2/13/2009 12:53:52 AM

^ duh, no dude.

No, you can't. Eating shit will still affect your health negatively and catch up with you one day. One day very soon.

^^ oatmeal and whole wheat pasta are very healthy, but i hope you are eating veggies/fruits, and a few protein sources as well (beans, lentils, animal flesh, low-fat dairy).

2/13/2009 1:00:45 AM

well the point I was trying to make was that you can eat unhealthy and get away with it if you have the workout plan that someone that Phelps has. You stop that plan, and you will get fat as shit

oh, and it will make you smoke pot

2/13/2009 1:02:37 AM

If I consistently ate like i eat at work, i would be in much better shape.

normal meal at work is about 4 ounces of meat (beef, pork, or chicken), 3-4 stalks of broccolini, some brussel sprouts, and a sauce normally made from white wine or stock with a little (maybe 2 tsp.) of herb compound butter for a little flavor and body.

2/13/2009 1:04:30 AM

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"you can eat unhealthy and get away with it if you have the workout plan that someone that Phelps has. "

As I said, one day that diet will definitely show its adverse effects on your heart, liver, kidneys, and blood, even after you stop it (if you do it for years, even with all that training)

Being healthy is not just about being fat or thin. Yes, with an unhealthy diet and a brutal training regimen, you will stay thin like Phelps, but you are damaging your body still.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread. If you want to continue, you can ask the mods to bttt that thread of mine that I linked.


[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 1:15 AM. Reason : ]

2/13/2009 1:14:38 AM

^ I fully agree with this post

2/13/2009 1:15:24 AM

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"and a few protein sources as well (beans, lentils, animal flesh, low-fat dairy)"

I eat ~150g of whey protein a day and real meat at least once or twice a week (when I can afford it). I hate vegetables and dairy

2/13/2009 1:38:26 AM

cheetos and ramin



its all air but i get full

2/13/2009 2:43:53 AM

it's amazing how long you can live when chicken is on sale and you're eating healthy

<$20
2lb bag brown rice -$2
24oz tub of oatmeal - $1.50
6lbs chicken -$12
4lbs green peas - $4-5

I'll eat 5-6 "meals"/day

1/2 cup whole grain source
4oz lean meat
2/3 cup dark green veggie

I avoid deli meats like the plague...too much sodium & $$$

pack em all in tupperware and tote them everywhere with me....lost 100lbs in the past year doing more or less this routine

in a hurry? my on the go meal is a protein shake and 2 slices whole grain bread.....can nab a bag of the arnold double fiber whole grain bread for $2 at nearly any grocery store...22g whole grain/slice, 5g fiber, 1g sugar, 100 cal/slice

2/13/2009 7:49:39 AM

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"I eat ~150g of whey protein a day and real meat at least once or twice a week (when I can afford it). I hate vegetables and dairy "

That's not a very healthy diet... you are a bodybuilder, so I am sure you know that already! And 150 grams seems like a lot for a girl who weighs what, 140 lbs? And if you add the protein from the oats and pasta, it could be as high as 180+ g.

2/13/2009 9:32:47 AM

beans and rice, motherfuckers

beans and rice

I like mine with a light salad of shredded cabbage, carrots, onions and jalapeno tossed with a little vinegar

2/13/2009 9:38:43 AM

it's marginally cheap, but my normal week's worth of groceries:

3 plum tomatoes (will explain this later)
baby spinach
3-4 red peppers
carrots
7 broccoli crowns
1 can almonds
18 eggs
2 top loin steaks
2 4-packs turkey breast cutlets
dried fruit
7 yogurts (as few additive ingredients as possible)


Things that'll last more than a week, but end up getting ~ every other week
garlic head
long grain brown rice
whole wheat bread loaf


On sundays after the grocery store, I'll make a balsamic vinagrette and roated peppers for the week.

Slice the tomatoes into 1/4" slices, lining the bottom of a glass baking pan, single layer
dice 5 cloves of garlic, mix wtih 4 tbspn evoo, brush over tomatoes
thrown in oven at 400 for like 10 minutes or so
thow into blender with fresh basil, another tbspn of evoo, 3 tbspn balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper to taste, liquify

I'll use this dressing for the rest of the week for lunch salads

I'll roast the red peppers and skin, then store the peppers in a jar with olive oil (and using last weeks red pepper olive oil in ^ is killer too)

I'll do a simple black pepper rub on one of the steaks, grill the steak, slice thin and portion 4oz poritons into containers.

Breakfast:
3 scrambled eggs, (2 whites, 1 white+yolk)
1 slice whole wheat toast

Snack:
1/4 cup almonds

Lunch:
Spinach salad, roasted red pepper slices, carrots, 1 of the steak portion containers and then the balsamic on the side.
yogurt

snack:
dried fruit

dinner:
turkey breast cutlet, grilled (play with marinades to keep it interesting, but be careful your marinade ingredeints... keep it simple and away from sugars
steamed broccoli crown
brown rice


I like to either grill or broil the turkey, and can have the dinner prepped, cooked, plated in under 20 minutes.

For the breakfast, I'll make the lunch and pack it while cooking the breakfast, and can do it all and be eating in under 15 minutes.

It doesn't take that much more time or effort, and materials for a weeks worth of this meal plan (notice no frozen, mostly fresh but the yogurt) works out to be ~$7-8/day.

If you skip the steaks for lunch it's considerably less

2/13/2009 9:55:46 AM

that's awesome

I can't wait to live in non-communal environs where I might actually be able to plan my meals

motherfuckers always eat my food and steal/throw away my containers

2/13/2009 9:58:50 AM

Just trying to think of some things that havent been mentioned much:
--cous cous
--skippy natural pb
--big bottle of fish oils from target
--generic cereal has some bang for the buck
and the obvious: oatmeal, frozen chicken breast, veggies, etc

For those sick of eating healthy. Spice it up a little. Buy some basil, oregano, seasoning salt, etc. It really adds some flavor to boring chicken dishes and isnt bad for you at all. Even go with pickles or something. Go wild. Dream big.

2/13/2009 10:07:34 AM

^ I bought that big bottle of fish oil for my dog. They have the 375 pill bottle at Costco for like $12

2/13/2009 10:09:29 AM

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"how can you eat a healthy balanced meal for cheap? whats your secret ladies?"

Really? No.... really?
Where are you from?... fucking mayberry?
No wait -- when are you from?... 19-fucking-50?
"ladies"?.... Really? Huh.

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"I wish I could grow my own... living in a concrete jungle fucking sucks"

Hydroponics, my friend.
It's not just for pot-heads anymore.

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"motherfuckers always eat my food and steal/throw away my containers"

Because you let them. Sometimes, you need to risk coming off as a dick, and assert yourself.

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"how to eat healthy for cheap"

Isn't really a problem as long as you're creative and not picky.
I mean, let's face it folks, all of those that just can't get down with vegetables, beans and whole grains... are fucked.
Hopefully they'll use any money they saved (by buying crap food) for paying their higher health care costs...

[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 10:36 AM. Reason : ]

2/13/2009 10:09:48 AM

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"Hydroponics, my friend. It's not just for pot-heads anymore."

to my knowledge, decent hydroponics set-ups ain't cheap

2/13/2009 10:12:16 AM

You don't really need a "decent" one. There are a lot of very affordable systems -- certainly less expensive than most fish tanks.
For instance, the Institute of Simplified Hydroponics (http://www.carbon.org/) uses these very inexpensive systems for their charity outreach.

Also, you don't have to get expensive indoor lighting. You can grow on your deck, patio, driveway, window, etc.


[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ]

2/13/2009 10:18:27 AM

Steal

2/13/2009 10:19:00 AM

hydroponics on the cheap

2/13/2009 10:22:06 AM

^
nice

2/13/2009 11:31:52 AM

^ agreed. I am going to build one of those when I get into my new place. I already have some grow lights so I could set it up in the spare bedroom.

^^ some of the comments on that article are pretty funny

[Edited on February 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM. Reason : a]

2/13/2009 11:32:40 AM

I am not a good cook (which really sucks because my mom is the best cook evar). However, I do a decent job of living on:

Peanut butter/honey sandwiches
El-cheapo soup
Turkey/cheese sandwiches (a la Sam's)
Pasta
Chicken/rice

I haven't had a job since October and I truly don't think I could balance one with my current class schedule and workload, so I've really really had to cut back on food spending, along with everything else.

2/13/2009 11:40:19 AM

I'm excited about this thread.

I've yet to go to the farmer's market here. Do they have good prices/deals?
What are some awesome crockpot recipes you guys have?

2/13/2009 11:45:47 AM

^

here is a thread full of crockpot recipes. I posted a bunch in there

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=537928

2/13/2009 11:47:10 AM

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"Because you let them. Sometimes, you need to risk coming off as a dick, and assert yourself."

I don't think this guy understands my living arrangements

I'm one of 13 people in a co-op

I DO call people out for eating my food but I can't just freak out when I don't know who did it

2/13/2009 11:47:10 AM

ya hippie!

2/13/2009 11:47:45 AM

^^
Well, 13 people means 13 suspects.
Also, you say that you call them out. What does that consist of?
Lastly, I agree that freaking out would be bad when you don't know who did it. However, you should consider doing at least something. You can study their schedules to figure out who it is, or you could even use some kind of surveillance or tamper-proof trap. To me, stealing 1 dollar isn't much better than stealing 100 dollars, so I would definitely not allow it. If it came to it, I'd threaten legal action.

2/13/2009 11:57:04 AM

a healthy snack is raw almonds. I buy the Target brand and they are $4.25 for 12.5oz. They can last for a while. Good to eat when you are hungry! Protein def keeps you satisfied.

2/13/2009 12:57:48 PM

Organic Food is a scam.

Just get regular shit.

I'm Big Business and i approved this message.

2/13/2009 12:58:29 PM