You're the one that brought up my job status T Bag.

8/6/2009 9:30:08 PM

Remember this?

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"haha your lives are worthless all day I work earning mad bank and manage to keep it from the lawyers while you are diligintely working at this trolling thing you got going for you jokes on you hope you can put message boarding on the resume guys otherwise you are fucked"

How's that working out for u these days?

8/6/2009 9:30:56 PM

For real though

Put trolling on your resume. Nothing else seems to be working.

[Edited on August 6, 2009 at 9:34 PM. Reason : You're good at it, too]

8/6/2009 9:33:46 PM

don't give him that much credit. there's no art in what he does.

8/6/2009 9:35:25 PM

Yawn. You guys are going to have to try something different than the job thing. It has no emotional effect on me.

^^^ I don't remember how long ago that was. I find it particularly hilarious that you apparently have it bookmarked you tigershark you. You really are gay aren't you?

^ Fucking hilarious coming from you. You've got more posts trolling tech talk than you have in all the other sections comibined...squared prolly. Fucking clown.

[Edited on August 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

8/6/2009 9:37:29 PM

All you have to do is use the "Search" function to find stupid shit you've said on the wolf web, Fail Boat.

If you don't have any emotional attachment to the fact that you're a jobless bum who, at 40, is still shooting for a job in middle management let me turn the camera lens with one final statement: You don't have a job in the worst economic downturn in 70 years but I do

Let's talk about the fact that you're 40, you're posting (don't even get me started on the fact that your posts are trolling posts) on a college student web forum, you used the term "for the lose" earlier in this thread, and you apparently still don't know where to draw the line between "irresponsible college level fucking around" and "I'm too old to engage in this stuff anymore."

I hope that when you're 60 or 70, people start making threads with titles like "Isn't Fail Boat dead yet?", "Fail boat still unemployed after worst economic downturn in 100 years is over?!", or "Fail Boat, anyone in TWW's grandfather?".

Because you really need to have some better shit to do. Get married, have some kids, take them to t-ball practice, but for God's sake get off this web site where you're older than the target audience by 20 years. Your vigilant patrolling of TWW makes me both LOL and at your retardedness

8/6/2009 11:19:25 PM

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"All you have to do is use the "Search" function to find stupid shit you've said on the wolf web, Fail Boat. "

Ok, buddy, you find where I said that above and show me the search term you use.

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"but I do"

I get paid to do whatever the fuck I want to do, in the nude if I feel like it. You're not the one to brag.

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"Let's talk about the fact that you're 40, you're posting "

I'm 29 you stupid asshat. Get a damn clue.

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"I'm too old to engage in this stuff anymore."

At 22 I was too old to engage in this stupid shit.

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"I hope that when you're 60 or 70, people start making threads with titles like "Isn't Fail Boat dead yet?", "Fail boat still unemployed after worst economic downturn in 100 years is over?!", or "Fail Boat, anyone in TWW's grandfather?"."

Weird, you're thinking about what my future will be like? I'm not even thinking about what you're next post will be like.

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"Because you really need to have some better shit to do."

I do plenty of better shit than this website. It's just when I am here I make the most of it, so you get a really skewed perception of what it is.

8/7/2009 10:00:15 AM

You get paid unemployment WOW... That must be freakin sweet to sit around and earn unemployment, I am so sad that I have a job I have to go to get paid

Obviously 29 is not too old for you to engage in this stupid shit, because you're still doing it, asshat. Where do you draw the line, at 40?

That you even show up for the sole purpose of trolling shows what an immature prick you continue to be at almost 30.

"making the most of it"... You're doing it wrong.

8/7/2009 10:23:35 AM

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"dakota_man: its ok that you're not a perl guru. no one's judging you for it, and you shouldn't judge the language or the documentation for such a nitpicky thing. learning curves are learning curves."

I'm not judging it based on that, really. I guess the point is that Perl has a pretty high learning curve for what it is, do you disagree? That opinion isn't based all on my personal experiences, it's also based on the stuff like the article I linked on page 1.

8/7/2009 11:14:13 AM

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"That must be freakin sweet to sit around and earn unemployment,"

Yeah, it kinda is.

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"I am so sad that I have a job I have to go to get paid"

Well, so far today I've gone on a mountain bike ride, washed my Jeep, and had lunch with my wife, all outdoors, and the weather is fantastic for an August day in NC. How is your cube and perl treating you?

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"Obviously 29 is not too old for you to engage in this stupid shit, because you're still doing it, asshat."

Look, just because you're CSC doesn't mean you can't take a second to comprehend what I wrote.

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"That you even show up for the sole purpose of trolling shows what an immature prick you continue to be at almost 30. "

I don't show up for the sole purpose of trolling. You're the one that got your answer and keeps coming back for more chief.

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"You're doing it wrong."

No, I'd say I'm doing it exactly right.

8/7/2009 1:04:59 PM

ATTN: this message is being passed along from Tiberius

Tiberius suggests that instead of abusing the fuck out of pack you use a map or backwards foreach, as in:

$result .= chr hex foreach split( / /, $string );
$result = (join map chr hex, split( / /, $string ));

8/8/2009 3:53:26 PM

I read through the link I posted and the solution seemed to be pretty clear to me. However, I am a pretty decent perl programmer and I can grant that it may not be as apparent to a newbie.. I do appreciate the (deliberate?) irony in calling someone out for obtuse solutions while posting the following:

$result .= chr hex foreach split( / /, $string );
$result = (join map chr hex, split( / /, $string ));

8/10/2009 10:00:21 AM

There isn't anything obtuse about that solution. Maybe you just aren't the perl programmer you think you are.

8/10/2009 10:49:28 AM

I hate syntax allowing function calls without parenthesis

8/10/2009 11:20:38 AM

^^ I'm ok... Most complicated stuff that I've done is hashes of hashes of arrays, and no object-oriented perl, so I'm definitely not an "expert" perl user. Then again, I never really had to do much more with perl than parse very large text files.

[Edited on August 10, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : s]

8/10/2009 11:25:24 AM

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"I never really had to do much more with perl than parse very large text files"

That's how it should be.

Man, when I had 255 with Borwick and he went into all the cool object oriented features of perl I nearly walked out of class. But I can understand how someone who really spends a ton of time with it and uses it as their main language would appreciate that, just not the rest of the 95% of perl users.

8/10/2009 11:29:03 AM

Can we go to the point in the thread where Fail Boat was bragging about managing college students?

It's nice to know he and the night shift manager at a McDonalds' are touting the same credentials.

8/10/2009 12:45:59 PM

ATTN: this just in from Tiberius

*BubbleBobble has no affiliation with the content of this post. He is just copying and pasting*

Solinari:

Of the proposed solutions, which do you suppose properly handles hex-encoded Unicode characters without further adaptation?

pack and unpack are intended for interaction with bit-aligned data structures, which a string of space-delimited hex-encoded characters hardly qualifies as. Say it with me: Space-delimited, Hex-encoded. These are magic phrases that should ring an alarm signifying to experienced programmers that they're not dealing with a bit-aligned data structure. It naturally follows that the behavior of pack is less than ideal when abusing it in this manner.

On the other hand, chr and hex exist in nearly identical form in uncountable programming languages, and these are practically textbook examples of map and backwards-foreach. chr, being inteded for text processing, properly handles characters of varying types. I'm not sure what part of those solutions strike you as obtuse, and it doesn't even matter, because you're wrong.

To me, the biggest irony of the thread is your immediate disparagement of web developers and proud attempts to feign knowledge of a language which is prominent largely due to its utility in CGI processing.

If you hate web development so much, and think the level of discourse in Tech Talk is beneath you, how about dropping some knowledge? Enlighten the readers as to your personal technical projects which are so incredibly complex that they would defy the comprehension of a forum with a high density of EE, ECE, and CS majors, graduates, and hobbyists. Expand our horizons with your greatness instead of masturbating to climactic self-importance in every thread.

dakota_man:

It can make things confusing sometimes. In this case it has the aesthetic of mapping the properties chr and hex onto the list of strings returned by split. Very neat and transparent, I think. Very descriptive of the operation which is occuring. I do C where you're coming from, though ...

Fail Boat:

It's amusing to claim even passing familiarity with Perl in the same context as an ignorance or disdain of object-oriented programming in Perl. A vast majority of the utility of Perl is locked away in the CPAN repository, where a proper implementation is considered to be object-oriented. You probably should've paid more attention in that class, it sounds like the professor was trying to guide you down the right path.

8/10/2009 1:51:51 PM

Perl: TMTOWTDI

8/10/2009 2:50:55 PM

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" It's amusing to claim even passing familiarity with Perl in the same context as an ignorance or disdain of object-oriented programming in Perl."

Actually, that is one of the more retarded comments I've seen here. I don't see why anyone with a passing familiarity with perl would be aware of the object oriented side of the language.

Furthermore, related to this:

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"A vast majority of the utility of Perl is locked away in the CPAN repository, where a proper implementation is considered to be object-oriented."

No, no, no. If I worked in a way that perl needed to be my most prominent language and I was developing in it actively, then I would appreciate ALL the OO features of the language. The reason modules in CPAN are OO in nature (whether they extend or not) is because they wouldn't be used by anyone if they were ugly blobs of mess. This doesn't make OO in perl glorious, it makes those that decide to tackle all their problems in perl where they need those types of features fanbois. And when I say OO, I am talking specifically about the deeper OO features like poly and inheritance, not creating a class with objects because it's prettier. The OO lecture Borwick gave and was rather animated about was how you could do everything in perl OO related that you would do in any other language as if it was a sales pitch.

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"it sounds like the professor was trying to guide you down the right path."

Yeah, he guided me down the path that said save perl for text processing and stick with C/C++ for the more serious applications.

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" It's nice to know he and the night shift manager at a McDonalds' are touting the same credentials."

I feel pretty safe making the claim that you can't find a McDs manager anywhere in the world that can claim managing 2 BS degree holding (one from MIT) semiconductor engineers and 1 MS degree holding engineer with a combined 20+ years experience in the industry. How many people do you manage and what is your and their work?

[Edited on August 10, 2009 at 7:47 PM. Reason : .]

8/10/2009 7:41:56 PM

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"Ask joenumbers how well his voltage regulator question he had for a candidate at a career fair once went when he posted it here. Quinn knows what I'm talking about."

ehe

That was funny. I still <3 joenumbers.

8/10/2009 10:11:47 PM

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"I feel pretty safe making the claim that you can't find a McDs manager anywhere in the world that can claim managing 2 BS degree holding (one from MIT) semiconductor engineers and 1 MS degree holding engineer with a combined 20+ years experience in the industry. How many people do you manage and what is your and their work?"

So which was it? Did you manage college kids or professionals?

Or has it been so long since you've been employed that you forgot?

8/10/2009 10:17:15 PM

If I were to walk into an MLB clubhouse and brag about making county All-Stars in eighth grade, it would be a pretty good representation of Chance's posts in this thread.

8/10/2009 10:46:10 PM

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"So which was it? Did you manage college kids or professionals?"

Oh, I see Stein, you read

"guys like you"

and just made up whatever it was you wanted it to be with which to have another lame troll.

To most people that aren't idiots, I think "guys like you" in the context of the thread would be in a professional setting, but I can see how a douche such as yourself would hope I was bragging about managing the summer interns, as if my record and reputation would imply as much.

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"So which was it? "

Exactly Stein, how many is it that you manage, or team lead, or technical lead, or anything that shows you're nothing more than an entry level dipshit that spends his free time at work being a boring troll on the wolfweb. What is it you do again?

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"If I were to walk into an MLB clubhouse and brag about making county All-Stars in eighth grade, it would be a pretty good representation of Chance's posts in this thread."

And what lofty title do you have now? Web App tech II?

8/10/2009 11:10:22 PM

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"And what lofty title do you have now?"

Currently Employed

8/10/2009 11:22:59 PM

Oh, so "entry level" huh? How many years have you been at the bottom of the totem pole?

8/10/2009 11:26:15 PM

1. Get a job
2. Develop some sort of inferiority complex
3. Talk shit about people in other professions to pump up your ego

It's a simple process, you just seem to have messed up the order. Try again and get back to us.

[Edited on August 10, 2009 at 11:28 PM. Reason : !]

8/10/2009 11:27:57 PM

Why would I have an inferiority complex? I have a higher net worth than you by far and that statement will probably still be the same if by some terrible stroke of luck I'm still unemployed a year from now (and I probably won't be 1 month from now).

This all got started when I said I manage guys like you...the implied statement being guys that resort to the wolfweb to solve really simple work problems don't get promoted. Then your asspirate buddy Stein tries to call me out on that, I ask you guys what you do and now you're turning it into an inferiority thing when it is nothing like that. You show me you're something more than an entry level blow hard that spends his free time getting his jollies seeing how cute an insult he can make in a post and then we can talk about inferiority.

I was all ready to use touche expecting you to come back with an interesting reply about how you're more than just a code monkey...but you failed

8/10/2009 11:33:39 PM

Why's everything gotta be a dick measuring contest with you?

Who gives a fuck what anyone else does. Be happy with your own job (search) and stop trying to bring down a motherfucker earning a good paycheck.

Sorry I'm not a goddamn CEO at 24. But I've got a job that I really, really like and it pays great. You don't. There is no upward mobility in the unemployment line. Congrats on saving money or whatever. That's awesome. Get off my grill, dog.

[Edited on August 10, 2009 at 11:41 PM. Reason : ]

8/10/2009 11:37:43 PM

That's one of the more interesting admissions of defeat though you really didn't have any other options at this point.

8/11/2009 6:59:02 AM

So what you're saying Chance, is that when you said "guys like you" to a 22 year old college student, you actually meant degree holders with years upon years of experience. Gotcha.

No wonder you're spending your afternoons watching Maury and Springer. You've obviously lost any shred competency you had over the past 7 years. Though really, keep bragging about how within a month you'll be back making the BIG BUCKS! We're all super impressed!

On a serious note though, what are the odds we can get your wife to post in the "Ladies, could you be the breadwinner?" thread? (/message_topic.aspx?topic=573335)

8/11/2009 8:28:21 AM

You've never been interesting or fun as a troll. In short, your shit is weak as fuck, go away and find some better material.

8/11/2009 8:35:01 AM

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"That's one of the more interesting admissions of defeat though you really didn't have any other options at this point."

8/11/2009 8:38:12 AM

You didn't have to go and validate my last post ya know?

8/11/2009 8:41:32 AM

are you sure this guy could find a wife? even if he did, I'm sure it won't be long before she gets tired of him loafing around and leaves him

[Edited on August 11, 2009 at 9:10 AM. Reason : s]

8/11/2009 9:09:22 AM

Rofl, I was so fiscally prudent with my nice ECE salary that I was fine and am fine with her working the 30 hour weeks that shes been doing since before I was laid off.

Who did you marry? Who do you manage?

And, what is it that you do? I get the impression your some low level monkey doing fairly menial work, but that's only because you steadfastly refuse to tell anyone what it is you actually do for a living.

Don't be shy, if you got a killer job, we'd love to hear about it.

8/11/2009 10:22:09 AM

I would never want to be a manager!

8/11/2009 10:43:29 AM

So, you're not a technical team lead either?

8/11/2009 10:44:17 AM

nope

8/11/2009 11:21:30 AM

Solid effort!

8/11/2009 12:27:56 PM

From what I've heard of and seen at other companies, the "tech lead" title has become about as watered down and meaningless as an honors class in high school. I know you'll probably just say I've got a case of "sour grapes," but consider this: I could have just said I was a tech lead.

8/11/2009 1:22:16 PM

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"has become about as watered down and meaningless as an honors class in high school"

Wtfbbq? That's one of the more retarded things I have ever heard.

And, if you mean a 10% base pay raise and a higher bonus, it kinda was meaningless

8/11/2009 2:06:12 PM

probably means different things at different places, both in terms of status and compensation

8/11/2009 2:14:27 PM

only 10%?

8/11/2009 2:14:28 PM

rofl

8/11/2009 2:17:32 PM

lmfao. 10% isn't enough to manage more than a couple of people imho. I did that for a few months (4-5 people, "dev. lead"), it sucked balls for a lot of reasons - it would have taken >>>> 10% more effort from me to do a good job.

edit: though I'm sure it depends on the situation, and that isn't meant to imply anything about that kind of role in all circumstances.

[Edited on August 11, 2009 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

8/11/2009 2:53:28 PM

WE CAN'T HELP YOU HAVE NO AMBITION, SON

8/11/2009 3:13:56 PM

It's a good thing it wasn't just 10%, can you folks not read?

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"and a higher bonus"

It doesn't matter what I did anyway. We have determined there has been a lot of dick riding by a bunch of entry level goons.

8/11/2009 3:29:23 PM

Well yeah, how do they do the bonus though? At my current company it's just a percentage of base salary, so if that were higher, the bonus would be too. This is, however, the only place I've ever worked that gives bonuses, so I don't know what other people do.

8/11/2009 3:31:18 PM

At my last job, most of the employees called it bonus out of laziness but it was actually classified as variable incentive pay (VIP). The first 3 years I was there, they somehow managed to bring it in right at 12.5% every year regardless of site performance or global performance. Around that time they started getting a bit more serious about setting performance goals and that happened to coincide with an upturn in the DRAM industry and I think we hit 17 and 19% for a couple of years. The last year we were there they redid some of the compensation stuff where they shifted most people up a little in base and down a little in VIP (I want to say to around 7.5%, but maybe it was as much as 10%). For me, I moved to a higher global grade (the 10% raise) and the VIP structure was different and more bonus-like ranging as high as 25% in really good years.

In regards to the workload, I'm not sure what type of team you worked on, but I didn't have to micromanage these guys. We had at one point about 10 different device variants in my group. This means locally, we were collectively dealing with about 4-5 product engineers and product test leads and globally there were 2-3 program managers and 2 different manufacturing sites. At the same time our counterparts in Germany had about half of those numbers involved in the development. The bulk of my "extra" duties was arbitraging on their behalf like our manager would do for task conflict resolution for them and to set targets. And since I knew what we were doing much better than my manager anyway, it made sense that I just do that work instead of him. The other part of those extra duties were actually getting to form a plan to fix and update a lot of concepts and ideas that had been getting kicked around for quite awhile but didn't have anyone in the global community identified to drive them.

For most of the time I worked there, there was always a conflict between what we wanted to do at our site with our test programs and testing needs and what the mothership in Germany wanted to do. Finally, as a team lead I had the mandate from our site to basically do whatever it was I felt needed to be done to ensure success for us and if I could convince our counterparts across the pond to follow then that was just extra benefit. This was something I had been trying to do anyway for about 4 years but wasn't getting much traction because I didn't have a title. I had conversations with guys in December of '07, just after we closed our first R&D site for cost cutting measures, that we'd end up bankrupt before the projects they had oversold, overcommitted, and were underdelivering on would see actual production.

I have a lot of Dilbert like stories and good learning experiences from my last job. But it seems you're probably the only one here that is actually interested in that type of stuff (not that I am pandering to tell them to you, just sayin).

[Edited on August 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .]

8/11/2009 3:52:43 PM