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ncWOLFsu
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i think im in battlegroup 3, zul'jinn

8/18/2006 10:05:43 AM

StudentDrone
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I'm in battlegroup 2, alliance on Dune Maul

8/18/2006 10:46:23 AM

darkone
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Battlegroup 1

Spirestone PvP
Dragonmaw PvP
Skywall Normal
Frostmourne PvP
Shadowsong Normal
Windrunner Normal
Shadow Council RP
Nathrezim PvP
Gurubashi PvP (Malinferi - 60 Undead Warlock)
Eldre'Thalas Normal
Scarlet Crusade RP
Firetree PvP
Terenas Normal
Bonechewer PvP
Silvermoon Normal
Smolderthorn PvP

8/18/2006 11:00:03 AM

CapnObvious
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"as i said before there is no NERF. at all."


Bullshit. Blizzard has been ignoring Engineering forever. Been a long time since there has been any sort of new schematic. They can craft one good gun and one good scope, though the scope costs like 300g and is near obsolete due to all the +hit gear most hunters already have. They have one decent consumable which can be given to others which is only good in PvP. PvE usage is limited to a few items.

So Engineering is a PvP profession. Now, they create a new battle arena for PvP that will have ALL the best gear, and engineering is NOT allowed. Not only are engineering consumables not allowed, but some of the GEAR isn't either. How about we not allow the special mage, lock, and priest chests that can be only made through tailoring? How about the warrior charm from blacksmithing that makes you immune to fear? Lets get rid of that bullshit.

So on and so forth. Blizzard once again will make a policy, and enforce it only on engineers.

8/18/2006 2:03:54 PM

CalledToArms
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once again. no nerf ill politely disagree.

there is nowhere that you could use engineering before (hello im an engineer ) that you cant now. yes they have nerfed it in the past (MC rap recently etc). but the whole POINT of this arena was to give ONE place where pure gear was the only advantage. no pots, no other gay crap etc. this is something they needed. no gay flags. no outside help. no advantage from blowing all your gold on pots to hide behind poor playing abilities.

it helps lower the standards of the people that do nothing but rely on FAP in wsg, and titan flasks etc.

you can still use your engineering in all the world pvp, old bgs, new bgs.

i dont see any problem with this still. it is NO more of a "nerf" to engineers as it is alchemists or herbalism whose profession based outputs cant be used here (no pots). other than that "only enforce it on engineering" who else would they enforce it on?

think about how meaningless of arena battles. since you dont have to play all day like the old honor system you could always all wait until your team cooldowns were all down on your engineering trinkest before every arena match and GG. Be garaunteed a LOT of wins that have nothing to do with skill. those crafted items dont bother me really as they arent AS game changing imo. if a warrior wears that charm he is a retard.

even tho this wont be PERFECT it is as close to as level as you can get in a gear based game. i have no recklessness but so what. itd be overpowered in this setting

8/18/2006 2:25:09 PM

CapnObvious
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"but the whole POINT of this arena was to give ONE place where pure gear was the only advantage"


Rocket helm isn't gear? I could swear it takes up a helm piece.

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"if a warrior wears that charm he is a retard."


Tell that to priests and warlocks. That and their abilities can give them 1 minute immune to fear.

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"you can still use your engineering in all the world pvp, old bgs, new bgs. "


World PvP died when BG's came out. BG's die when new PvP stuff comes out. Hmm, new WSG leggings come out . . . 12 AB games up at once all day become 1 game every 2 hours. This Arena will kill BG's for a good long while, mark my word.

8/18/2006 3:17:02 PM

CalledToArms
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maybe you server :p i dono. the past month or so has been slow but we've still had some massive world pvp here. some organized some not

im talking about the expansion. with what looks to be promising world pvp in every zone and that neutral town sounds interesting too. with some bgs taking place in caverns of time. i plan to do them all

just because the helm goes on your head its considered a profession item. dont be nitpicky. its the fact that it has a cooldown > 15 mins on it that really makes it illegal. i have recklessness which i love. and i cant use that but i dont care. and in most cases that warrior is still a retard. if you need a charm to break a warlock fear or priest you need to L2P because warriors have anywhere from 1-3 fear breakers.

im not even fury(ie 1 fear breaker) and i NEVER have a problem with fears in a BG (even solo without tremor totems) unless im up against you know 2 locks or 2 priests at hte same time. and its not worth it to take up a trinket slot to anticipate the small chance of that.

if youre fury you have 2 ways to break fear then and if you are undead fury you have 3.

[Edited on August 18, 2006 at 3:26 PM. Reason : ]

8/18/2006 3:21:16 PM

smoothcrim
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getting rid of the hwl stuff and then making it so with arena pvp you can come to 1/3 matches and get full honor will most definitely kill bgs. on the plus side, there will always be a minority of people that like whatever bg in whatever level bracket across the 12 servers in your battlegroup and there will always be a game up.

8/18/2006 4:06:34 PM

CalledToArms
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exactly. bgs are still where i have the fun. mainly wsg. i still play a couple wsgs before i log off every night even on days im not really pvping

8/18/2006 4:12:06 PM

Shrike
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I have fun corpse camping lvl 40s in tanaris, true story

8/18/2006 4:28:40 PM

bous
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i used to kill people like you

8/18/2006 4:33:11 PM

CalledToArms
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nice.

i think the best is when i came up on 2 60 mages (crappy geared but 60) camping a couple level 35s in STV. im sure they thought they were tough. i camped both of them for a good 30 mins until they spirit rezzed.

i mean they were bad. getting back at other ppl picking on lowbies is fun.

8/18/2006 4:34:11 PM

bous
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they forget what polymorph was?

8/18/2006 4:37:03 PM

CalledToArms
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i said they were really bad. with my /tar macro i was able to kill 1 pretty much instantly after rezzing and then only had 1 to deal with

8/18/2006 4:39:51 PM

Shrike
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Well yeah, the goal is always to get their friends to show up and start shit. Before battlegrounds came out, about the only way to get any decent PVP going was to attack places like Darkshire and Lakeshire and get lowbies to bitch and whine until their high level friends showed up.

8/18/2006 4:39:52 PM

CalledToArms
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definitely.

still works some places. go to nessingway start camping lowbie impervious, RM, BT alts and soon enough youll have 10 mains out there hehe. or duskwood works too

8/18/2006 4:40:48 PM

bous
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look out for the walking chain dude!!!1

8/18/2006 4:45:24 PM

Azaka
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Alexstrasza Normal
Kirin Tor RP --[Grandmaster, Druenn DR]
Dethecus PvP
Destromath PvP
Blackhand Normal
Kael'thas Normal
Illidan PvP
Hellscream Normal -- [ssclark, (name?) UW]
Balnazzar PvP -- [Azaka, Kesuke UR] [0, Demitreus UL (sorta)]
Gul'dan PvP
Gorgonnash PvP
Whisperwind Normal
Stormreaver PvP -- [porcha, No OW] [CalledToArms, morbidgorbag OW] [Shaggy, shaggar OH] [Shrike, Vixdean TM]
Garona Normal
Cho'gall PvP
Alleria Normal -- [smoothcrim, ripthejacker UR]
Spinebreaker PvP

Added myself and 0/God who sometimes plays Demitreus since SandSanta quit, fixed porcha's name, and added Shrike's name.

8/19/2006 4:37:53 AM

DamnStraight
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i think im in battlegroup 3 - medivh ftl

8/19/2006 7:08:08 AM

KillaB
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I'm on Kirin Tor, Horde side... Esdot's the name.

8/19/2006 9:02:28 AM

ssclark
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Alexstrasza Normal
Kirin Tor RP --[Grandmaster, Druenn DR]
Dethecus PvP
Destromath PvP
Blackhand Normal
Kael'thas Normal
Illidan PvP
Hellscream Normal -- [ssclark, Iamurfriend UW]
Balnazzar PvP -- [Azaka, Kesuke UR] [0, Demitreus UL (sorta)]
Gul'dan PvP
Gorgonnash PvP
Whisperwind Normal
Stormreaver PvP -- [porcha, No OW] [CalledToArms, morbidgorbag OW] [Shaggy, shaggar OH] [Shrike, Vixdean TM]
Garona Normal
Cho'gall PvP
Alleria Normal -- [smoothcrim, ripthejacker UR]
Spinebreaker PvP



[Edited on August 19, 2006 at 3:23 PM. Reason : jk]

8/19/2006 3:22:53 PM

ssclark
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I need a new bar mod. someone help me. I dont want to use the standard bars


I'm tired of the fuckupidness of discord and I can't figure out how to move bars in nurfed !!

8/19/2006 8:03:22 PM

tracer
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you know how when you put your cursor on somebody and that little window pops up in the bottom right? i had a mod that made that window pop up over the person i was pointing at instead of in the corner, and now its gone back to being in the bottom corner. i dont know what mod it was that was causing it to show up in the middle of the screen, but i hate it being down in the corner. any ideas on how to fix this terrible situation?

8/19/2006 8:16:19 PM

Azaka
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There are a bunch of mods that do that. Search for Tooltip on http://www.curse-gaming.com and it will bring up about 20 of them.

8/19/2006 9:31:41 PM

tracer
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ahha...i think i remember seein tooltips on the list of mods. guess it just stopped working with the newer patches.

8/19/2006 9:44:40 PM

Novicane
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they are giving away lvl 60 - high Warlord characters on the test realms.

8/21/2006 8:34:09 AM

Grandmaster
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you mean as this phase of the generic copied characters?

8/21/2006 8:47:43 AM

Novicane
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yea i guess

8/21/2006 8:56:45 AM

Grandmaster
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lame you don't get all the weapons

8/21/2006 9:09:42 AM

XXX
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I was playing the warrior, that shit is insane

8/21/2006 10:37:11 AM

Novicane
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downed Ossirian last night though

http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aq20clearhb7.jpg

As a priest I must say this fight is challenging. For every other class it's a cake walk.

8/21/2006 11:27:55 AM

ssclark
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allways stay in front of your tank. and ossirian is a walk in the park ! take that to the bank.

8/21/2006 1:12:56 PM

Grandmaster
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wtb dead c'thun

64% phase 2, a bunch of morons dying all the time. and rarely even staying up for more than 3m in p2

8/21/2006 4:31:06 PM

Shrike
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C'thun is all about how smart people are during Phase 1. If you can get to phase 2 with <5 dead people, its hard to wipe even if you try.

8/21/2006 4:52:06 PM

Shrapnel
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gothik, loatheb, horsemen, saph and kel left to go for us.

should get gothik tonight or sometime next clear.

8/21/2006 6:19:31 PM

DamnStraight
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we too are workin on phase 2 c'thun
its a bitch

8/21/2006 6:36:43 PM

ssclark
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just got gothik down.

8/21/2006 8:37:21 PM

soulfire963
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Jokero 60 human mage, Cho'Gall, alliance, see you horde bitches soon.

8/22/2006 3:34:37 AM

smoothcrim
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1.12's out today bitches!

everyone in battlegroup 7 let's get on someone's vent at midnight after raid time and try to pvp together
I got a couple I can probably hook up if no one else can

8/22/2006 11:54:59 AM

DamnStraight
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haha
twin emps got nerfed

hahahahah
like that fight wasnt eazy enough already

8/22/2006 12:25:44 PM

ssclark
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im not sure how we can pvp together :X


Quote :
"haha
twin emps got nerfed

hahahahah
like that fight wasnt eazy enough already

"


just setting people up for a failure when they get to cthun and beyond

[Edited on August 22, 2006 at 12:28 PM. Reason : .]

8/22/2006 12:27:46 PM

smoothcrim
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we all get on vent and queue for the same full bg instance and it'll spawn us all a new one. like force queueing AV

8/22/2006 1:11:46 PM

Arab13
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"cwgabriel: Question: taynt: What do you think about Horde Paladins and Alliance Shamans: Stupid, Smart, or Meh?

Answer: I think it's a cop out. The sort of thing you might see in "how to balance an MMO for dummies""


ala xfire chat

8/22/2006 1:14:59 PM

HockeyRoman
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Sunday night in the middle of Strat Live I hit 60 on my mage (my fourth 60) with a /played of 10days 5hours. By that time I was already atuned to MC and BWL and had already done Jailbreak. The following morning I got into a Scholo group and nabbed Magisters Shoulders, Magisters Gloves (that I already bought so I sold these to make back my money), Magisters Crown and last but not least the Headmaster's Charge. OMFG. It was like Christmas time. Right after that I participated in a guild UBRS to get my Drakk's blood and get my Ony key. That night I was lucky enough to be the only mage alt in Ony and the Netherwind Crown dropped..... So I went from hitting level 60 and less than 24 hours later having my tier 2 helm. After that we did AQ20 where I got a blue bracer upgrade and the Fireball book. The good thing is that I didn't take something from anyone else. It was really a lot of good fortune. Now I just get to farm up the $Texas for another epic mount. Blah.

8/22/2006 1:45:09 PM

darkone
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^ You suck. I always have to work my ass off to get decent gear.

Anywy, can someone post the patch notes? I won't be home for a while.

8/22/2006 1:48:20 PM

GraniteBalls
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Stormrage PvE 60 HumWarrior "ABashore"
Executus PVP 24 NEDruid "ABashore"

8/22/2006 1:50:28 PM

Novicane
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fuck AQ 20. there isn't shit there that drops for my priest that is worth a damn. Once I got all my books, the ONLY thing that is worth it is the head of ossirian neck peice which the guild lets EVERYONE roll on.

8/22/2006 1:56:53 PM

Azaka
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http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=38755#post38755

patch notes

8/22/2006 2:10:39 PM

darkone
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This is hot, I've been wanting this for a while:
A soul shard will be refunded to the caster any time a summoned pet despawns rather than dies

8/22/2006 2:17:44 PM

Azaka
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"Temporary item buffs (e.g. poisons, sharpening stones and shaman weapon buffs) will no longer persist through zoning or logging out due to technical issues. This feature is anticipated to be activated once more with the expansion."




Quote :
"World Environment

Cities
Neutral guards are now able to see through the rogue Vanish ability."


8/22/2006 2:22:16 PM

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