4horsemen progress nights are 5% pulling, 25% running back and 70% theory crafting

10/9/2006 9:55:42 PM

100% gay

10/9/2006 10:11:02 PM

sooo we just got bum spelunked


4h > us

10/9/2006 10:11:45 PM

I wonder how many hunters will set traps outside Thorium Point and make Snakes on a Plane jokes once the expansion hits?

10/10/2006 12:08:42 AM

thats some good spelunkin, lou

10/10/2006 12:52:01 AM

theres atleast a half dozen viable 4h strats.

10/10/2006 10:06:43 AM

anyone have an opinion on the best enhancement weapon available to me at lvl 59. I'm staying a 50-59 twink atleast until I can see how BC pvp is going to work. I'm an orc so I tend to lean to axes, and they generally look coolder. right now I have lord alexander's axe. I ONLY have 6 bubbles left to 60, and I'm saving them for my last push to rank 11 with for greater honor turn ins, so I'd have to be able to get this in ~10k xp worth of boss kills/quests.

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=6660
123-185dmg
3.2
16str (32AP)
17agi (17/20 % crit)
16sta (160hp)

I've considered the following, but feel free to chime in with something I've not mentioned
malicious axe -- off some guy in scholo
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37466
131-197
3.1
30sta (300hp)
26AP

arcanite reaper -- crafted, already started transmuting bars
153-256
3.8
13 sta (130hp)
62AP

dreadforge retaliator -- 15% drop off emp
149-225
3.7
1% parry
1% crit
30AP

waveslicer -- 7.5% chance off hydrospawn in DM East
123-185
3.1
26str (52AP)
1% crit


Now, my inclination is to take a faster weapon for more chances at a WF proc, but I wonder about normalization on procs, ie: crusader. Also, if I get a weapon that doesnt have +crit or agi on it, should I go with a +25agi (1.25% crit) enchant or crusader (+200AP when it procs)?

Anyway, here's the shaman in question.
http://ctprofiles.net/1210300 - look at the pvp profile

ps: yes I'd like odious greaves, but they haven't dropped yet

10/10/2006 11:40:17 AM

Reaper, crusader, you want burst damage

10/10/2006 1:29:44 PM

^ what he said.

enchancement shaman is so fun. got a decked enhancement shaman in my pvp group just rips stuff up. actually has a couple somewhat known pvp videos.

get that reaper with crusader and have fun

[Edited on October 10, 2006 at 1:33 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2006 1:33:01 PM

I actually ended up getting a pretty good deal on a crystal spiked maul, havent decided on the enchant yet. I kinda want agi for more crit to proc flurry but +200AP is huge.

168-252
3.9
16str
2% crit

and it was a lot cheaper than making/buying 14 more arcanite bars

10/10/2006 3:34:22 PM

get crusader for a pvp weapon

10/10/2006 6:04:34 PM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-hunter/changes.html

Quote :

"Traps are now on a 30 sec cooldown, but can be used in combat"

ouch

[Edited on October 10, 2006 at 7:26 PM. Reason : .]

10/10/2006 7:26:20 PM

I got 3 epics tonight! I got Felheart Horns, Crimson Shocker, and Choker of Enlightenment. I also got my DM trinket to boot. I still have about 40% of my DKP too. It's about time that I made up for not getting any loot out of MC for more than 2 weeks.

10/11/2006 12:49:24 AM

thats some booty for one day

10/11/2006 12:50:46 AM

oh noez!

10/11/2006 1:37:51 AM

Quote :

"After 3.5 weeks, played time 7days of playing this game. I'm a lvl 36 night elf druid on Shattered Hand in Wolfpack guild. This game rocks! Though only limited to wear leather armor...that sucks. Well atleast I can heal! Pallies are too easy to play....to powerful=no fun. Being able to shapeshift is great. Cant wait until Dire Bear form...and the armor increase upgrade to the bear adn dire bear...bear @ 175% armor and dire bear @ 325% Dire Bear almost puts me close to plate armor stats...but bear can attack worth of shit. well JOIN the WOLFPACK on SHATTERED HAND...we have 2 lvl mid-40s and few upper 30s and some 20s...I'd say total of about 20 members in the guild! we need more...so join us! message Amighty, Ryder, or Jain on the sever to Join."

10/11/2006 2:00:19 AM

lol.

if i ever spend the time to mess with an editing program i wanna make a pvp video might just wait until the expansion at this point tho heh

10/11/2006 2:13:43 AM

there's an alliance NCSU guild on SH? what's the name?

10/11/2006 9:18:07 AM

^ that was from page 3 or so

10/11/2006 3:43:04 PM

Anyone on Muradin??

10/11/2006 3:53:34 PM

I gave up making my shamans pvp video :x just not enough time. too much to choose from

10/11/2006 5:25:05 PM

NDA for Burning Crusade has been lifted.

You guys are going to love the world pvp shit you'll see talked about over the next few days.

10/11/2006 9:59:23 PM

iwant in

10/11/2006 10:01:15 PM

Might have keys at a later date...none now though.

10/11/2006 10:06:53 PM

Ugh. After reading what was asked earlier about shammy weapons and how orcs get the automatic +5 to axes. I am second guessing making the tauren shaman. He is 18 now so it wouldn't be "too" hard to reroll him. Thoughts?

10/12/2006 7:38:33 AM

Tauren also get +5% STA (awesome) and Tauren War Stomp, which is arguably on of the best racials in the game. For PvE, the +Axes will be awesome (assuming the guild allows you to DPS) but for PvP, war stomp is hard to beat.

10/12/2006 9:47:29 AM

Quote :

"there's an alliance NCSU guild on SH? what's the name?"

it was disbanded sometime early 2005 when everyone left for Purge

10/12/2006 9:50:03 AM

+5 weapon racials only matter for people doing melee dps in raids. General furies and rogues.

The best fury warriors are orcs or humans. Humans make the best rogues. For pvp and general crap it does NOT matter. + weapon skill is only useful when fighting mobs that are higher level then you and dps is your main goal.

HoSB and EoC... sometime.. please

10/12/2006 10:13:23 AM

Swift purple, red, blue, and green gryphons available for 200g from the Wildhammers in Shadowmoon. Training is 5000g. Also available are slower flying mounts, black, golden, and white gryphons, for 100g. Training 900g. All mounts require level 70.

10/12/2006 10:26:00 AM

do you need the slower mount training to get the faster mount training?

10/12/2006 10:36:07 AM

^ That's alot of gold...

10/12/2006 10:37:23 AM

Yes, you need the slower flying mount to get the faster flying mount.

10/12/2006 11:14:22 AM

HEY GUYS LETS CAMPOUT FOR WOW OK LOLOLZ

10/12/2006 11:41:46 AM

um ?

10/12/2006 12:32:36 PM

He is just suffering from withdrawl.

10/12/2006 12:38:48 PM

lol

10/12/2006 12:39:36 PM

lol

10/12/2006 12:41:22 PM

6k for flying mounts... ugh.

I assume though that they 'rep' with them is still not honored so you arent getting 10% off. and what are they doing for pvp discounts (i loved my 20% off everything)

10/12/2006 1:14:08 PM

that's just fucking assinine. I could see 2k for training or evan 2.5k but 6k for mount is just fucking dumb.... on the brightside







I GET CROW FORM BITCHES

10/12/2006 1:15:00 PM

world of whorecraft ftw

10/12/2006 1:21:48 PM

i guess it depends on teh gold drop rate in outlands to. That being said, atleast i am 65% of teh way there

10/12/2006 1:23:59 PM

someone in guild says you do get alot more gold from outland quests and mobs.

10/12/2006 1:49:00 PM

500 % more ? cause that's the upgrade from riding epic to flying epic :x

10/12/2006 1:59:09 PM

should i get wow? or does it take too much time to start now and the monthly subscription is a pain.

[Edited on October 12, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : i know im a noob]

10/12/2006 2:03:36 PM

Quote :

"I guarantee you that there's way more than $15 a month in your budget that you're really wasting on things nowhere near as fulfilling as a good MMORPG can be. "

10/12/2006 2:05:34 PM

10-15s per humanoid kill in general
5-10g per quest, depending on difficulty

Alliance flying mounts are on Wildhammer faction (the dwarves in Hinterlands)

10/12/2006 2:31:30 PM

Couple random things:

Disenchanting requires the appropriate skill level now, not sure on the exact values but it's 300 enchanting to disenchant level 60 and up items.

Everything has a ton of stamina on it. Greens can have 30-50 sta on them.

World pvp in Nagrand is the shit. There is a city you can hold while the opposite faction does bombing runs (fly overs on gryphons tossing bombs) to destroy your guards. Once the guards are dead, you try to hold the town somewhat like the towers in EPL. You can keep doing bombing runs until your faction holds the city. You get tokens in your inventory anytime you get an HK in the zone that can be turned in for solid rewards. Every zone has some sort of world pvp in it, this is my favorite so far.

Tier 2 is mostly replaced by quest rewards and instance drops by level 66.

I think banks were expanded with one more bag slot and another column of normal slots.

Reputations go up a lot faster. I do not know if old world rep's changed, but each of the new ones rewards quite a bit more per turnin.

10/12/2006 2:46:29 PM

FUCKING WILDHAMMER, I KNEW IT!

10/12/2006 2:47:40 PM

Quote :

" Disenchanting requires the appropriate skill level now, not sure on the exact values but it's 300 enchanting to disenchant level 60 and up items. Everything has a ton of stamina on it. Greens can have 30-50 sta on them. World pvp in Nagrand is the shit. There is a city you can hold while the opposite faction does bombing runs (fly overs on gryphons tossing bombs) to destroy your guards. Once the guards are dead, you try to hold the town somewhat like the towers in EPL. You can keep doing bombing runs until your faction holds the city. You get tokens in your inventory anytime you get an HK in the zone that can be turned in for solid rewards. Every zone has some sort of world pvp in it, this is my favorite so far. Tier 2 is mostly replaced by quest rewards and instance drops by level 66. I think banks were expanded with one more bag slot and another column of normal slots. Reputations go up a lot faster. I do not know if old world rep's changed, but each of the new ones rewards quite a bit more per turnin."

Does this mean you can level enchanting soley by disenchanting?

Also, can you level from 50 to 70 and stay competitive without doing all the AQ stuff?

10/12/2006 4:06:39 PM

I saw they reduced the game to 19.99

I came so damn close to buying it

I want to play

10/12/2006 4:07:21 PM