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Shaggy
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"Does anyone have any links to information about new engineering additions in BC?"

Im guessing:
aoe bomb that does 403 damage to all targets in a 1 yard radius and stuns for 1 second.
transporter to ratchet
trinket that makes your target immune to fear for 5 seconds (cant be used in combat, cant target self)



[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 12:32:22 PM

CapnObvious
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There is tons of stuff. There are bigger bombs, more scopes, more guns, more bullets, there is a polymorph trinket (chicken), remote mail terminal (repair bot but for mailing things).

They also are making Engineers have a "gathering" portion. They can grab things called Motes, which are used for high level recipies like enchanting. They also get an item to see things like "arcane vortexes of netherstorm" and loot stuff from them.

They also get potion injectors. So, for the price of 20 superior healing (or mana) potions and a bunch of other crap, you can stack up to 20 on the same spot. I am unsure if it is on the same CD as potions, and I am unsure if you can use it on others. Engineering required to use it though. Its more expensive than just having the 20 potions.

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?t=Engineering

10/27/2006 12:47:01 PM

Nashattack
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I think I'm gettin this game this weekend...


Anyone wanna buy a super elite Ultima Online account?
and I mean AWESOME... everything you could want PM me

10/27/2006 12:53:32 PM

XXX
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Not too impressed with the new engineering shit actually. I'll probably switch to jewelcrafting since you can't use grenades or potions in arenas.

10/27/2006 12:55:07 PM

CapnObvious
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^ I bet 75% of the other engineers will think the same thing. That equals more Motes for me, so thats a good thing . Depending on how practical it is to gather motes or those gas things, I could see this as being like herbalism with the ability to craft some nifty stuff. We'll see.

10/27/2006 12:59:08 PM

CalledToArms
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legitimate 3130 Heroic Strike in WSG on a tier 1 priest just now:p

no out of the oridnary buffs besides zerker hut buff. not pots no dragon buff

10/27/2006 1:53:26 PM

Axelay
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Thanks for the Thottbot beta link. Hadn't checked into it before. Duh.

There are a few interesting engineering things there, but nothing yet which immediately makes me feel one way or another about keeping it. I actually got into engineering for the net projector, death ray, and thorium grenades and I use them all the time in battlegrounds. I've helped recover quite a few WSG flags by shooting a runner with one after the other. Doesn't always work, but when it does, it's a thing of beauty.

Wonder what the "tonk controllers" will do...? And the potion injectors?

10/27/2006 1:56:46 PM

Shaggy
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potion injectors are a way to stack pots to 20.

its like 5 major mana/health pots = 5 potion injectors. And potion injectors stack to 20.

or something like that.

10/27/2006 1:59:10 PM

ssclark
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that's pretty much exactly how it works shag

10/27/2006 2:27:05 PM

cain
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the hut buff is kinda fluff on damage though, since its a multipler

DW + Zerker hut + enrage + impale = something like 4.29 x multipler on your damage. (as oppsed to the normal 2x on melee crits). Still, nice. What are you wielding (assuming its somethign in teh 350+ top end range)

10/27/2006 3:22:54 PM

ssclark
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hwl

10/27/2006 3:23:25 PM

XXX
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"legitimate 3130 Heroic Strike in WSG on a tier 1 priest just now:p

no out of the oridnary buffs besides zerker hut buff. not pots no dragon buff"


nah, zerker buff is about as out of the ordinary as you can get

10/27/2006 4:10:30 PM

CapnObvious
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Oh, they are also nerfing certain items. Like Iron Grenades wont work on targets > 50.

10/27/2006 4:13:52 PM

CalledToArms
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^^ i meant out of the ordinary *in a battleground in case i needed to clarify. i listed all buffs too i wasnt trying to play it off like i had no buffs

Cain:
http://ctprofiles.net/2707896



still plenty of stull im missing but im satisfied atm heh


[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 4:43 PM. Reason : man this pic got renered awful in paint oh well heh]

10/27/2006 4:14:55 PM

CalledToArms
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to further clarify this was solo pvp. 4/5 buffs i had up (BS, enrage, crusader, blood fury) i have on very frequently at the same time in solo pvp. of course the bloodfury not so much in group pvp heh.

i also had no druid mark or strength from totems like i normally have in group pvp. im sure plenty of people have well surpassed me, but i was pretty excited to see that heh.

i also do not have 5/5 enrage atm..damn i wish i had that. actually i wish i had a LOT of buffs on for that haha

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 4:54 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2006 4:54:11 PM

cain
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Nice gear... i still wtb HoSB but works kept me out of raids for 5 weeks now.

10/27/2006 5:42:23 PM

CalledToArms
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yea its a nice axe. and yea school has pushed me to doing nothing but raids, hardly any pvp. only when i can get it in :/. im usually doing hw during raids heh

10/27/2006 5:53:05 PM

ssclark
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I wish I wasnt a druid at times :x

10/27/2006 11:42:40 PM

ssclark
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sapphiron is whopping our ass !! but then we've only done 2 attempts

10/28/2006 7:13:51 PM

MunkeyMuck
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Made my first video. It's just a few duels on my pally, nothing fancy. Give me some feedback on it.

http://files.filefront.com/Kittenhuffer1_0001wmv/;6094657;;/fileinfo.html

10/28/2006 7:44:40 PM

ssclark
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downloading now

10/28/2006 8:33:07 PM

ssclark
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on the brightside you wont have to worry about kiddies talking about how you people up on people you massively outgeard.


maybe make an intro scene. your name ... your gear etc. I enjoyed it . for a first attempt, not so bad

10/28/2006 8:38:15 PM

MunkeyMuck
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thanks, title would be nice. Need to get some gear on me. Every time we raid MC I happen to be busy, but I have like 1000 dkp from BWL so it won't take long before Im skipping lawbringer completely heh.

10/28/2006 8:43:14 PM

God
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Made my first video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9013265383168375337&hl=en

10/29/2006 12:09:18 PM

Quinn
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Nothing beats running around in circles waiting for cooldowns to expire.

Great PvP concept, would recommend++++

10/29/2006 12:13:09 PM

God
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Well that's what you do when all your abilities (including your auto attack) function on a 5 second cooldown.

10/29/2006 12:17:49 PM

HockeyRoman
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When does playing a warrior become fun? Granted he is only level 14 now but my friend is leveling a shammy along side to heal but he has more AP, totems and heals and usually winds up tanking. I stay in battle stance for charge but its sooooo slooooow.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 12:47 PM. Reason : 14, not 16. /sigh]

10/29/2006 12:45:54 PM

Grandmaster
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lol, nerf warriors.

I reactivated my friends account and had been pvping on it all week....well I got bored of like 30 KB's 1 death type stuff so i randomly joined this MC pug. I couldn't do much more than proc TF with my auto attack without pulling aggro...so the raid leader is like "our tank not good, u have tank gear?" I ended up MT'ng lucifron and shit for these nubs....it was actually pretty fun having always played a rogue.

10/29/2006 1:44:34 PM

XXX
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^^probably level 30 when you get zerk stance, and even more fun at 40 when you get your instant, non-conditional attack (MS or BT, depending on spec). I wouldn't worry too much about holding aggro duo-ing with a shaman outside of instances, they can take damage just fine. Not to mention with earth shock and rockbiter you'll have a helluva time even grabbing aggro. But warriors are definitly one of those classes that just gets more fun as you level...at the low levels they kinda suck since you're just spamming HS.

10/29/2006 2:50:46 PM

CalledToArms
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leveling a warrior at the early levels does suck. extremely boring. however i LOVE playing my 60 warrior.

10/29/2006 3:38:26 PM

HockeyRoman
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Awesome. Thanks for the encoragement.

10/29/2006 3:59:39 PM

davidkunttu
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i have a high 30s warrior and that is some of the most fun pvp ever.

10/29/2006 4:28:33 PM

Novicane
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i got tired of pvp on my 60 warrior to be honest.

charge, hope to do some damage, and bandage if you live after the fight.

but i love pvping on my shadow priest.

melt face, melt face, fear, switch out of shadow and heal yourself. repeat.

and after you die your S: Pain is still ticking for 300 and kills them. great stuff.

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 8:39 PM. Reason : d]

10/29/2006 8:39:09 PM

CalledToArms
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i find that most warriors that say it is a boring class to pvp as dont utilize everything they have when pvping, which can tend to make it fairly boring if youre just pushing 2 or 3 buttons. If you are using everything you should be using against any class youre pvping against its not boring at all.

Charge
Intercept
Mortal Strike
Heroic Strike
Cleave
Whirlwind
Sweeping Strikes
pierching howl
hamstring
pummel
fear
disarm
etc.

heck i even use taunt and challenging shout on pets to free healers up etc. And in BGs, learning the LoS in the terrain as well as perfecting dropping combat against certain classes.

i find it to be an extremely interesting class to pvp with

[Edited on October 29, 2006 at 9:20 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2006 9:16:32 PM

Shrapnel
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4Horsemen down finally monthsbehind.com

http://weguild.crazygear.net/

10/30/2006 12:02:57 AM

CalledToArms
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grats

10/30/2006 12:20:17 AM

zmjrahl
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"heck i even use taunt and challenging shout on pets to free healers up etc."

<3 <3 <3

I've only ever healed for 1 Warrior that actually did that. He was an alt too, go figure =) He was even better at Shaman.

Warrior levelling tip, don't use Heroic Strike, spam Sunder Armor for more opportunities to Overpower.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 1:57 AM. Reason : zsz]

10/30/2006 1:56:32 AM

CalledToArms
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10/30/2006 8:27:11 AM

Lokken
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^^ ding ding

my war doesnt even have HS on the tool bar now that I have a 31 point talent.

10/30/2006 9:03:31 AM

ssclark
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obviosulymeyou're talking about mal .... if you say juro I'll ccome shoot you in theface.


rightso this mac spacebaris mad fucking broken in winston.

10/30/2006 2:28:11 PM

CalledToArms
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well with my setup i generate a crazy amount of rage even with 2H so in dps situations in PVE im MSing and WWing and if i have like 30+ rage still i HS otherwise i dont. but i still use it.

on twin emps all i can do is spam MS and HS

10/30/2006 2:39:30 PM

NCSUGimp
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im having a tough time deciding what to spec for my mage

right now i am heavy frost with some fire (lvl 54 right now, this is what 60 would look like)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?0000000000000000050232000000000005053203102351351


but then sometimes i think about specing PoM with pyroblast

ive been reading the mage forums like WHOA, but no build in particular has stood out to me

just seeing what you n00bs thought

10/30/2006 3:00:31 PM

smoothcrim
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I should make a video of my 50-59 twink shaman. 1shotting up through mail is all too common.

10/30/2006 3:40:04 PM

ssclark
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did you ever make that priv server?

10/30/2006 4:57:29 PM

smoothcrim
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I need more ram, no one seems to have any they can spare

10/30/2006 5:46:30 PM

ssclark
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ahh. that sucks :x

10/30/2006 7:59:37 PM

zmjrahl
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I was talking about Juro !

I wonder if he's coming back to roll a Spaceman Paladin like he said he would.

10/30/2006 8:40:14 PM

r45t4-m4n
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well, first real night working on patchwerk, got him down to 20%. healing is a bitch on this fight.

10/30/2006 11:33:31 PM

Grandmaster
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i told you, ram for thunderfury.

oO

10/31/2006 4:56:56 AM

Novicane
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Nef down.

Onto that damn place called AQ40.

10/31/2006 7:22:40 AM

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