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"that dude at the start of the season was a big guy, but more of a liability... the end of the season he really got his shit together."

He was actually pretty solid throughout the season and probably shot that mid-range jumper better during the first half of the year.

5/2/2012 12:59:55 PM

Is it possible that either TDT or TBDV go from a "who the hell is this guy" to a solid contributer, in one season, a la Clint Chapman this year?

5/2/2012 1:01:50 PM

^^yep, see our 3rd game, the princeton game. 11 points and the buzzer beater to win the game.

5/2/2012 1:04:07 PM

i guess i didn't watch him much early on but i felt like he took a lot of shots he couldn't make early on and then he started making them.

And his defense became solid without giving up stupid fouls.

I dunno... it got to a point where i wasn't upset when howell got in foul trouble as long as we took him out of the game

5/2/2012 1:04:37 PM

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"see our 3rd game, the princeton game. 11 points and the buzzer beater to win the game."

And how about the 3-4 games after that, where he just jacked up bricked shots. I love the guy and he was a big body and scary looking mother fucker, but that shot was very inconsistent.



[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 1:11 PM. Reason : oops wrong]

5/2/2012 1:05:56 PM

i remember him making it around 43% of the time.

i also remember numerous times when cjl or howell had to sit and we went on runs with painter i the game.

5/2/2012 1:15:38 PM

^ towards the end of the season. I'm just saying that he started out kind of shitty but finished up strong with the second half of league play.

5/2/2012 1:19:27 PM

This is what's bothering me

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"yeah losing painter was a big deal no pun intended"

where could there be a pun interpreted in that statement?

5/2/2012 1:21:49 PM

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"Is it possible that either TDT or TBDV go from a "who the hell is this guy" to a solid contributer, in one season, a la Clint Chapman this year?"

It seems more likely that TDT will have a better chance at contributing well next year. He's already big enough to bang inside and towards the end of the season, he seemed a lot more confident on both ends of the court, albeit in one minute intervals of mop-up time.

Vandy hasn't but it together yet. He's big enough to be effective at deflecting shots, but rebounding and scoring haven't come as naturally as one would like. He still needs to add bulk, but there's no doubt he's athletic enough to play. I still remember the slam dunk contest his freshman year and he was incredible. I didn't think a guy his size could control the ball like he did. It'll be interesting to see how the shoulder heals up and how he finds his way into the rotation.

5/2/2012 1:25:41 PM

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" i remember him making it around 43% of the time."

Yeah, that's a pretty bad field goal percentage for a post player.

5/2/2012 1:25:51 PM

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"^ towards the end of the season. I'm just saying that he started out kind of shitty but finished up strong with the second half of league play."

He was double figures in his first three games and 4 out of the first 7 (including Indiana). He reached double figures TWICE in the next 30 games.

Yeah...our schedule obviously got tougher...but he came out on fire with that mid-range jumper. He actually started bricking it towards the end of the year. I'm not arguing this with you anymore...because the bottom line was that he was an extremely solid back-up and he will be severely missed if TDT and/or Vandy don't step it up (Harris is irrelevant).

But Painter did not start out "kind of shitty" at all.

5/2/2012 1:26:01 PM

Yes, he was a solid back up, definitely a stater on many other teams.

Yes, he will be missed alot

5/2/2012 1:28:41 PM

lol @ Jaquan Raymond talking about playing against Tyler Harris in the NBA.

5/2/2012 1:32:08 PM

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"Yeah, that's a pretty bad field goal percentage for a post player."

Yeah, he took more face-up jump-shots than posting up.

5/2/2012 1:35:57 PM

anyone who addresses the issue of guarding "centers" in college basketball need to stop and think for a second. this is an issue like twice/year.

5/2/2012 1:40:25 PM

there were probably several guys on most teams we played that were too big/athletic for harris to guard.

5/2/2012 1:43:01 PM

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"anyone who addresses the issue of guarding "centers" in college basketball need to stop and think for a second. this is an issue like twice/year."

Centers and Power Forwards that Tyler Harris could not fathom guarding:

Henson/Zeller/Withey/Robinson/Reggie Johnson/Mike Scott/Miles Plumlee/Mason Plumlee/Alex Len/Cody Zeller...

And those are just teams we played last year. Therefore, losing Painter hurts MUCH MORE than losing Harris.

5/2/2012 1:51:07 PM

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"Therefore, losing Painter hurts MUCH MORE than losing Harris."

dude. no fucking shit. that's the most obvious thing you could possibly say.

5/2/2012 2:03:05 PM

^ Then what the fuck are you arguing about? Harris (since Raymond was already gone) was probably the least important player we had going into next year.

5/2/2012 2:07:15 PM

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"so we need to land as many guys from the dogpound as we possibly can before our recruiting momentum dissipates like a tiny amount of heat in a large room that can barely warm your large toe, let alone a room with Cathedral ceilings."

sometimes i worry about you face. how can you get be so drunk at noon on a weekday?

5/2/2012 2:10:31 PM

^^ that to say "harris is a 4 not a 5, thus he doesn't help us" is stupid. we need all the frontline depth we can get right now. we don't have a single 5 on the fucking team, and we didn't even w/ painter.

5/2/2012 2:13:14 PM

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/41973/sam-mclaurin

5/2/2012 2:14:41 PM

Vandy is solely a 5. And both Howell and CJL are adequately able to guard the 5 (or the biggest, strongest guys on the other team).

5/2/2012 2:16:42 PM

right, TBDV. i expect huge things from him...

and what's your point about howell and leslie? they're forwards that can guard other forwards, great. we need more forwards. harris is a forward. i really don't see where you're going w/ this.

5/2/2012 2:18:30 PM

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"^^ that to say "harris is a 4 not a 5, thus he doesn't help us" is stupid. we need all the frontline depth we can get right now. we don't have a single 5 on the fucking team, and we didn't even w/ painter."

It really only hurts us if someone gets injured. So yes...it hurts the depth. But if everyone stays healthy, this guy was going to get the same minutes as he did last year. I want Warren on the court at the 4 before I want to see Harris. Same goes if we sign Jefferson.

So yes...because he's not a 5 or a big 4...he doesn't really help us.

5/2/2012 2:21:14 PM

i've learned a lot from this thread recently...that Harris is leaving...that...i guess thats it

5/2/2012 2:21:42 PM

^^^^^

^Now you may have learned something.

5/2/2012 2:21:44 PM

is he transferring here, or are you throwing him out as a possibility to transfer here for his final season

5/2/2012 2:25:30 PM

I said "may" have learned something, but he apparently would be eligible right away.

6'8 230

10pts 7rbs a game last year.

Like Alex, worth a shot considering our excess rides.

5/2/2012 2:26:23 PM

Found this on the McLaurin kid:

http://www.carolinalive.com/sports/story.aspx?id=743154#.T6F8NL--ehw

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"Five schools have contacted Coastal Carolina forward Sam McLaurin highlighted by two major conference programs. McLaurin tells WPDE Sports he's heard from Virginia, Illinois, Drake, Western Kentucky and UAB. Alabama-Birmingham has former Coastal Carolina assistant Richie Riley on the staff. The three year starter for the Chanticleers received his release on Monday. He will not be allowed to transfer to another Big South school or a school on CCU's 2012-13 schedule. McLaurin has one year of eligibility remaining and will not have to sit out as he pursues a law degree following his graduation from Coastal in May. McLaurin does not have any visits scheduled, and is expected to hear from more schools."

wtf is this shit about a law degree??

5/2/2012 2:30:08 PM

Law degrees count the same as any other post-grad work. If you go to a school that offers a program your previous school doesn't have, you don't have to sit. Jesus Christ.

5/2/2012 2:32:20 PM

Gott can make make anything happen, even a law school.

5/2/2012 2:32:47 PM

I'm disappointed he left, but not nearly as disapointed as painter. I thought harris would be a big contributor by his junior or senior year. I wasn't expecting much from him next year, although he might have been called on if we have an injury. Hopefully we won't have an injury, and he can be replaced this year or in 2013.

5/2/2012 2:33:55 PM

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"Law degrees count the same as any other post-grad work. If you go to a school that offers a program your previous school doesn't have, you don't have to sit. Jesus Christ."

I get it dumbass. We just don't have a law school (wasn't there some rumor about us absorbing Campbell's law school??). I find it interesting that they mention a specific degree...normally these transfer students just try to find anything that their old school doesn't offer. And a law degree isn't what they normally settle in.

Good contribution to the thread Slave.

5/2/2012 2:42:33 PM

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"and what's your point about howell and leslie?"

my only point was that we have JV, Howell and CJL that can adequately match-up with the biggest, strongest guys on the other team. Harris couldn't. We need another big-man who can match up with the other team's "5's", when Howell and CJL go, and I don't think Harris would have ever been that guy. TDT, maybe.

5/2/2012 2:49:24 PM

We're on another subject now, we need more Dawgs.

5/2/2012 2:50:59 PM

I swear to god its like I’m talking to a brick wall sometimes. Most players don’t care what program they go into because all they care about is playing basketball for one more year. These guys aren’t going pro, at least not domestically, so this is their last shot. The field of study isn’t as important as the opportunity. But when you see a guy pursuing a law degree, its evident he has higher aspirations than the Parks and Rec or African American studies degrees most of these kids go for. Thumbs up to the kid for caring about his future, thumbs down to you for once again failing to grasp even the basic outline of an argument.

5/2/2012 2:52:15 PM

His only point was if he's serious, he's not coming here. (like the rumor says)

5/2/2012 2:56:23 PM

This is an NC State thread you idiot. Someone mentioned him coming to State...we don't have a fucking law school and he wants to get a law degree. That's what my initial comment was about.

Good contribution to the thread on NC State Basketball, Slave.

5/2/2012 2:57:28 PM

The way you bolded the text and then your incredulous follow up led me to believe you didn't understand the basic tenants of the graduate transfer program. Given your track record, you can't really blame me.

5/2/2012 3:03:22 PM

Nice backpedal buddy. Good to know that you're human.

V....I know...this is my way of not rubbing it in.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/2/2012 3:05:15 PM

That's his way of saying he's sorry. Be appreciatitve. It doesn't happen very often.

5/2/2012 3:07:02 PM

5/2/2012 3:17:22 PM

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"my only point was that we have JV, Howell and CJL that can adequately match-up with the biggest, strongest guys on the other team. Harris couldn't. We need another big-man who can match up with the other team's "5's", when Howell and CJL go, and I don't think Harris would have ever been that guy. TDT, maybe."

TBDV cannot "adequately" match up with the biggest and strongest guys on the other team. we only need one guy to match up w/ whatever 4 on the other team is stronger (b/c only unc has 5s). harris will never be the only forward on the floor. therefore, he helps. he can't do it on his own, but that goes w/o saying. i can't believe i had to say that.

5/2/2012 3:21:21 PM

http://www.throwbackpack.com/

5/2/2012 3:29:17 PM

^^okay simon, your brilliance wins again.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM. Reason : although i think Vandy will be better than you think this year, despite what you dream]

5/2/2012 3:37:40 PM

http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/30103/harris-transfer-creates-void-in-wolfpack-frontcourt-will-jefferson-fill-it/

Dad sounded like a massive douche.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 4:09 PM. Reason : TBDV]

5/2/2012 4:08:45 PM

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" “He played well in practice and wasn’t rewarded,” Harris’ father Torrell told USAToday. “He was good enough to hold an All-American (Kansas’ Thomas Robinson) scoreless for seven minutes in the Sweet 16, but when the team lost six games in a row, they never changed their rotation to play him. He wasn’t recruited by Mike Gottfried and he wanted to play his players.”"

Must have missed that six game losing streak

5/2/2012 4:14:01 PM

^^agreed:

Quote :

" “He played well in practice and wasn’t rewarded,” Harris’ father Torrell told USAToday. “He was good enough to hold an All-American (Kansas’ Thomas Robinson) scoreless for seven minutes in the Sweet 16, but when the team lost six games in a row, they never changed their rotation to play him. He wasn’t recruited by Mike Gottfried and he wanted to play his players.”"

first off, we never lost 6 in a row...and his name is MARK.

but, only TDT and Alex Johnson were recruited by Gottfried, right? So that whole "wanting to playing his players" thing doesn't even add up...TDT, the only freshman the Gottfried recruited, didn't play significantly more than Harris. I understand wanting playing time, but that's just a stupid quote.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 4:14 PM. Reason : and ^ beat me to the "six game losing streak"]

5/2/2012 4:14:15 PM

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"He wasn’t recruited by Mike Gottfried and he wanted to play his players.”"

lol, wat?



[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 4:16 PM. Reason : damn you people ]

5/2/2012 4:15:11 PM