this may have been asked already.

If the speed limit is 65 and Car A is in the left lane doing 65 exactly --- Meaning that Car A is doing the maximum speed limit and that no car in that lane could travel faster than them without breaking the law --- ignoring the fact that it's somewhat douche baggy if there are vehicles behind Car A who would like to travel faster (and break the law in doing so), is Car A doing anything that's actually illegal?

What if in the same scenario, Car A is doing 60mph?

12/1/2013 8:06:49 PM

car A should move to the right lane, unless they are passing someone going under the speed limit. in theory.

[Edited on December 1, 2013 at 8:13 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2013 8:13:23 PM

see, that's what I always hear. But i've searched the statutes and haven't found anything that suggests that to be the case. It's certainly the "rules of the road" way to do things. I think it's pretty dickish to not move over. But are there actually any laws in NC pertaining to the issue?

Plus, in that scenario, nobody could possibly drive faster than Car A (lawfully) so it's kind of odd to me that you'd be required to move to the right.

12/1/2013 8:58:12 PM

the laws vary state to state. i have no idea what the NC law is.

12/1/2013 9:35:51 PM

http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

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"Keep right if below speed limit."

http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html

12/1/2013 10:01:13 PM

keep right except to pass in every state or you're a dick

12/1/2013 10:08:50 PM

if I was a cop I would still find a reason to pull car A, because fuck car A

12/1/2013 10:22:23 PM

being a dick isn't illegal.

12/1/2013 10:22:44 PM

Slower cars keep to the right on the interstate. That is the only law I know about.

12/1/2013 10:26:09 PM

its actually not the law that they keep right on the interstate, unless they are going under the speed limit. like settledown just posted.

12/1/2013 10:39:09 PM

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"Slower cars keep to the right on the interstate. That is the only law I know about. "

Is that really a *law* though? I know some form of it might be in some state/localities, but it certainly isn't on a national scale.

12/1/2013 10:39:16 PM

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"http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html Quote : "Keep right if below speed limit." http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html"

-settledown, just a few posts up

12/1/2013 10:40:39 PM

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"North Carolina General Statute 20-146 makes it unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle in the inside lane of any dual-lane highway at a speed less than the posted speed limit when the vehicle impedes the steady flow of traffic and appropriate signs have been posted. “Appropriate signs” are defined as “Slower Traffic Keep Right” or designations of similar import. See Appendix A for complete text of General Statute 20-146."

That is what I found

http://www.motorists.org/lane-courtesy/lc-signage-study2.pdf

12/1/2013 10:43:46 PM

so basically, next time you are in a traffic jam, a cop can come by and ticket everyone in the left lane for going under the posted speed limit

12/1/2013 10:46:52 PM

http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-146.html

12/1/2013 10:47:47 PM

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"That is what I found"

interesting, if only someone could be so kind as to post a link to the actual General Statute 20-164 mentioned in what you quoted.

[Edited on December 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM. Reason : it's a long shot, but that would be pretty helpful.]

12/1/2013 10:51:44 PM

maybe if we

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"ASK THE POLICE"

the police will

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"POST A LINK"

12/1/2013 11:13:37 PM

You can go whatever speed you want in the left lane as long as you don't impede the flow of traffic, but "impeding traffic" is not clearly defined. The police can only enforce a minimum speed limit if posted. So, if grandpa wants to do 25 mph on 70 mph highway at 2am in the left hand lane and he isn't impeding the flow of traffic, truck on.

[Edited on December 2, 2013 at 9:17 PM. Reason : is not, not is]

12/2/2013 9:02:54 PM

false

[Edited on December 2, 2013 at 9:08 PM. Reason : wait, you're a cop? that explains why this is a problem]

12/2/2013 9:07:00 PM

I'm not that kind of cop. In fact, if you were that kind of cop and you write tickets for this shit, you would be the definition of a douche. And please feel free to post a rebuttal as my interpretations of Chapter 20 is not the end all be all.

[Edited on December 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM. Reason : ...]

12/2/2013 9:18:34 PM

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"b) Upon all highways any vehicle proceeding at less than the legal maximum speed limit shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for thru traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the highway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn."

12/2/2013 10:08:28 PM

why are motherfuckers acting like that's Shakespearean English or some shit

12/2/2013 10:13:21 PM

wait, you're a cop?




please disregard that PM i sent you

12/2/2013 10:15:42 PM

So, my old department called me up and offered me a job. Should I go back? I'm very unhappy where I'm at right now and it would be a solid pay cut.

[Edited on January 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM. Reason : ...]

1/2/2014 7:45:33 PM

that's a tough call... is there advancement opportunity within your old department? what about in your current job? (to something that would make you happier?)

1/2/2014 7:50:36 PM

There is advancement at the old department, but one of the reasons I left was because I wasn't sure when that opportunity was going to come for me. At my current gig, there is no room for advancement because its such a niche agency (no specialty units). However, in the last year I have gained invaluable experience that has bolstered my resume tenfold. On the other hand, I abhor almost every aspect of this job (the organization, the mission, etc).

1/2/2014 8:01:42 PM

would there be a chance for you to apply directly for higher positions in your old department as opposed to taking such a large paycut? (how much are we talking? enough for you to have to change your current lifestyle significantly?)

1/2/2014 8:04:43 PM

No, got to start at the bottom. Because I have been gone a year, they can't offer me the pay I left at but they would give me a signing bonus that would put me $2 less than the salary I left at. After 1 year, I would get a probationary raise that would keep me at that the $2 less salary until promotion.

The only fringe benefit that would work in my favor is the opportunity to moonlight and work city OT.

Right now, the ball and chain is only working part-time because she is back in school and won't be drawing a full time paycheck until mid-summer at the earliest.

I need to figure out my end game; where I want to be in 5 years. I wouldn't mind going back home to D.C. but the cost of living is outrageous, but this state blows as far as policing. If I wanted to go feds, I got a better shot boosting my resume at my current position, but as I said, its brutal.

[Edited on January 2, 2014 at 8:11 PM. Reason : I can't type]

1/2/2014 8:10:07 PM

You can't leave me

1/2/2014 8:29:31 PM

Everything that dies, someday comes back

1/2/2014 8:47:18 PM

Depends. Ignore the pay for a moment (as long as you can cover your bills and responsibilities on either salary) and focus on whether staying another year in your current position would be enough of a resume boost to offset the fact that you're miserable. You may not be able to put a price on happiness but you can sure try to fit it into a cost-benefit analysis.

Also, a question. You have a 4-lane road with a median. It runs through a residential area so speed limit is 35. This road intersects a small non-divided street. In the middle of the intersection there is a fucking big stone monument. Solid 10 feet in diameter, probably 15 feet tall, big motherfucking globe on a piillar. This makes navigating around it tricky, especially given that the roads do not meet squarely but at a slight angle, so there is a no left turn sign on the larger road at the monument intersection. Understandable because someone who is not familiar with that intersection is going to be confused to say the least.

Suppose that I regularly ignore that no left turn sign because that's the most convenient turn for me and I know exactly how the intersection flows. Is that ticket-worthy as a matter of course, or only if I appear to be making the turn in a dangerous fashion?

1/3/2014 2:06:00 AM

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"Is that ticket-worthy as a matter of course, or only if I appear to be making the turn in a dangerous fashion?"

Yes and depends. Is there a lot of wrecks at this intersection? Most likely you will get pulled over and we will discuss the matter.

1/3/2014 6:49:55 AM

(discuss the matter)

1/3/2014 7:40:18 AM

I've only ever seen two accidents there in over a year living here. The cross street reallly isn't very heavily traveled (and the no left turn is often ignored.)

1/3/2014 10:00:09 AM

What is the fine for not picking up dog poop or leashing your dog in Raleigh city limits? Would you be willing to come scare my neighbors? They all seem to think they should have multiple pit bulls in a damn three story townhouse and they can't walk across the street to the provided bags and trash cans to throw away their poop.

1/3/2014 5:38:42 PM

put the shit in their mailbox or something. smear it on their car. hell, burn their house down. that shit is unacceptable.

1/3/2014 5:45:30 PM

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"What is the fine for not picking up dog poop or leashing your dog in Raleigh city limits?"

No clue, never worked there.

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"Would you be willing to come scare my neighbors?"

No, and parents, don't ask me to scare your kids. I'm not their parents.

1/3/2014 5:46:52 PM

Lol. Fair enough. But I get tired of finding dog poop right outside my door. I dont wanna go to the HOA meetings but I guess I might have to. Giant pitbulls jumping on pregnant women is no good.

1/3/2014 5:51:19 PM

We have DNA poop testing where I live. Hefty fine for those who don't scoop their poop.

[Edited on January 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM. Reason : I called the shit, poop!]

1/3/2014 5:53:49 PM

Holy shit. Really? Awesome. I have entertained many options including scooping the poop and dumping it in their yards and putting up a security camera with a warning sign.

/meanoldneighborlady

1/3/2014 5:59:51 PM

http://www.hark.com/clips/qprybgpxdm-staple-his-ass-shut

1/3/2014 6:14:18 PM

Say I am at a red light that I know takes forever and want to make a left, the road (undivided) is empty. Is it legal to:

1 - make a right on red
2 - do an immediate u-turn and continue on.

Does this answer change if there is or is not a suicide lane to do the u-turn from?

1/5/2014 12:47:45 AM

Do police "like" CC permit holders? As in less likely to give a ticket like? What about PBA stickers? Military stickers? (sorry if this has already been covered).

What would happen if you/or average cop caught someone doing 150 on an interstate?

Any feedback on this video? message_topic.aspx?topic=640465

Running a red light is defined as breaking the plane/crossing that white line while the light is red right? aka if it turns red while you're under it that's not a ticket?

1/7/2014 11:28:43 AM

I'm convinced my CCH permit got me out of a speeding ticket. Or those cops just don't know how to run a speed trap.

1/7/2014 1:18:11 PM

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"Say I am at a red light that I know takes forever and want to make a left, the road (undivided) is empty. Is it legal to:"

No.

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"Do police "like" CC permit holders? As in less likely to give a ticket like? What about PBA stickers? Military stickers? (sorry if this has already been covered)."

I like CCH holders for the most part. I have arrested one or two, but for the most part I like to shoot the shit with them and ask them what they are carrying. I'm probably less likely to give them a ticket, but I'm not a big ticket writer.

The PBA stickers and such...I don't pay them any attention.

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"What would happen if you/or average cop caught someone doing 150 on an interstate?"

You would go to jail. But, they just changed the law so they may have reclassified the charges.

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"Any feedback on this video? message_topic.aspx?topic=640465"

Old video, beaten to death.

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"Running a red light is defined as breaking the plane/crossing that white line while the light is red right? aka if it turns red while you're under it that's not a ticket?"

Correct or at least that is how interpret it.

[Edited on January 7, 2014 at 10:49 PM. Reason : ...]

1/7/2014 10:49:11 PM

What are your thoughts on the kid in Durham who shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a cruiser?

1/7/2014 11:00:23 PM

I am not a cop, but it sounds like the kid was a rotten piece of shit that liked to rob other peoples homes.

1/7/2014 11:11:24 PM

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"What are your thoughts on the kid in Durham who shot himself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a cruiser?"

It a bad situation all-around. The kids family will always suspect the police, the police will always be looked upon as cover one of their own and the office has to live with maybe a poor search of the kid or possibly the prisoner before him.

1/8/2014 6:39:27 AM

A coworker of mine just lost his license for a year due to a DUI, but he got a provisional license that allows him to drive between 7AM-8PM M-F, and pretty much any other time as long as it's for work/community service/alcohol classes. He also has a stipulation that his BAC must be .04 or below for the next 3 years. We were discussing some scenarios yesterday and I wanted to get po-po feedback.

1. I assume when an officer runs his tag it will come back that his license is suspended. Will the officer also be able to see that he has provisional driving privileges, or would the officer need to pull him over to find that out?

2. If the answer to question 1 is "no, the officer would need to pull him to find out", is just running the tag/finding out he's suspended enough probable cause to pull him? In other words, can a cop just pull him based on a random tag search, or does he have to have another reason to pull him (speeding, tail light out, etc.)?

3. His lawyer told him that if an officer runs his tag he will see the .04 BAC restriction, and that the officer will most likely approach the vehicle with a breathalyzer and make him blow. Is this true, or would the officer need some other evidence of intoxication to request he blow? (smell of alcohol, slurred speech, etc.)?

1/8/2014 10:53:59 AM

is the .04 stipulation for driving or at anytime?

did he have a breathalyzer machine installed in his car?

1/8/2014 10:56:32 AM