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darkone
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So, who is going to have all their addons and macros broken by the new patch?

12/4/2006 9:57:15 AM

Raige
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Man what the hell... I was fighting a warrior last night..

He hits me with like 6 things in 2 seconds and the moment he comes close enough he does all these moves. Hell I can't press my fingers fast enough to do all that.

Hamstring (multiple levels of it)
Rend

damn can't remember the rest. I've NEVER seen a warrior do that before. What addon's and scripts is he using? I'm sure it's commonplace in some of your guilds.

He was 55 and me 50. He also got OUT of being frozen after drinking something. free action only prevents me from doing that do you right? Not get you out of ice.

I'm decent in pvp... but this guy was unreal. I managed to kill him later and he did the exact same combos when we fought the second time I just managed to crit on him like mad. Took every cooldown I had. He didn't break the ice the second time. Gave me enough time to land an ice bolt on him which crit for 1k. (I'm 50 gimme a break 1k is a lot).

Is this the type of scripting that's going to break after the patch? If so that rocks. I hate people who use scripts instead of their own skill.

12/4/2006 10:13:23 AM

HockeyRoman
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^^ Just Decursive for me as far as I know. CT_Raid will likely be updated promptly and most other things aren't that crucial I hope.

12/4/2006 10:20:29 AM

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free action pot breaks any cc on you that doesnt prevent you from drinking. he was probably fury and proc'd flurry and had rage from killing/beating on others to spam instants

12/4/2006 10:45:11 AM

darkone
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^ You're thinking of a Living Action Potion
http://thottbot.com/?i=37099

12/4/2006 11:58:07 AM

wanaflap
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I hate macros where a person will automatically switch stances for an overpower, etc... I know of several hunters who essentially play the game thru macros.

Man either learn to play or get the fuck out. Why 'play' a game where you really don't play it at all? The only macro I like is /golfclap.

12/4/2006 1:32:05 PM

darkone
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Why push 3 buttons when you can push one?

12/4/2006 1:34:19 PM

wanaflap
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So when I see your FD/trap macro and I still beat the ever living crap out of you, I can skip away /golfclapping.

12/4/2006 1:36:41 PM

Raige
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not against people pushing 1 button that does an attack, switch stance and another... things like that don't bug me..

This guy was obviously using something that was doing the fighting for him. The second I got close it automatically did his attacks. Kind of like this

If close enough AND it's ready -> do this
repeat and complicate.

He basically just targets me and lets his mods do the rest. The only other time I saw this is someone with an auto mod that priests had that when they detect you casting they auto target silence, dot dot dot.

12/4/2006 1:37:09 PM

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I remember the auto mod that used to break fear instantly with WotF and PVP trinket. It was so fast that the person wouldn't even notice the fear in the first place. People need to L2P.

12/4/2006 2:06:22 PM

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Yea i fucking hate ui mods that just play the game for the user.

Like i'll shoot a warlock that had no idea i was there and all of a sudden I have 3 dots on me.

I also hate whatever fucking mod warns people im about to aimedshot them. I'll target some guy that has no idea im there, and as soon as i start casting they target me.

12/4/2006 2:20:51 PM

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// JA Fury 17/34/0 - PvP Style
// Item IDs: 19019 = Thunderfury, 23014 = Iblis, 19334 = Untamed Blade, 19349 = Shield, 19314 = Lifegiving Gem, 19948 = Herp Badge
//
// OUT OF COMBAT
battle-ifPlayer<25%rage-ifNotInCombat
dismount-ifMounted-ifInRange=intercept
dismount-ifMounted-ifInCombat
stop-ifMounted
stopAll-ifTargetIs=CCd
//
// BREAK FEAR/STUN
deathWish-ifPlayerIs=Feared
berserkerRage-ifPlayerIs=Feared
useEquipped=18854-ifEquipped=18854-ifPlayerIs=Stunned
useEquipped=18854-ifEquipped=18854-ifPlayerIs=Slowed-ifNotTargetInMeleeRange
useEquipped=18854-ifEquipped=18854-ifPlayerIs=Immobile-ifNotTargetInMeleeRange
useEquipped=19341-ifEquipped=19341-ifPlayer<40%hp-ifInCombat
useEquipped=19948-ifEquipped=19948-ifPlayer<25%hp-ifInCombat
//
// RANGED
use=Big Iron Bomb-ifInCombat-ifIs=Immobile-ifNotTargetInMeleeRange
use=Iron Grenade-ifInCombat-ifIs=Immobile-ifTargetInLongRange
crossbow-ifInCombat-ifIs=Immobile-ifNotTargetInMeleeRange
freeAction=ChargePlus-ifInRange=charge-ifStance=battle-ifNotInCombat-ifTargetAttackable
charge
berserk-ifInCombat-ifNotInCooldown=intercept-ifInRange=intercept-ifPlayer>10%rage
intercept
//
// INSTANT MOVES
autoAttack
bloodthirst-ifBloodthirstKillShot25%hp
execute
bloodthirst
stop-ifTarget<21%hp
//
// STANCE DANCE/ WEAPON SWAP
-- BATTLE OVERPOWER
battle-ifTargetDodged-ifNotInCooldown=overpower-ifNotTargetInMeleeRange-ifPlayer>5%rage-ifPlayer<30%rage-ifTarget>40%hp
overpower
-- BERSERK PUMMEL
berserk-ifTargetIsCasting-ifNotInCooldown=pummel-ifTargetInMeleeRange-ifPlayer>5%rage-ifPlayer<30%rage
pummel-ifTargetIsCasting
-- DEFENSIVE DISARM
defensive-ifNotInCooldown=disarm-ifTargetInMeleeRange-ifPlayer>5%rage-ifPlayer<30%rage-ifTargetClass=WarriorHunterRogueShamanPaladin-ifNotTargetImmune=disarm
disarm-ifNotTargetImmune=disarm
-- BERSERK
berserk-ifInCombat-ifPlayer<30%rag
//
// BUFFS/DEFUFFS
hamstring-ifNotTargetIs=Slowed
rend-ifNotTargetHasDebuff=rend-ifTargetClass=HunterRogue
battleShout-ifNotPlayerHasBuff=battleShout
bloodrage-ifInCombat-ifPlayer>50%hp-ifTarget>35%hp
sunder-ifTargetHasDebuff<5=sunder-ifPlayer>50%hp-ifTargetFlaggedPVP
sunder-ifTargetHasDebuff<5=sunder-ifPlayer>50%hp-ifNotInRaid
piercingHowl-ifNotTargetClass=ShamanPriestDruidMageWarlock-if>2Attackers
//
// AOE
stop-ifInCombat-ifNotInCooldown=intimidatingShout-ifTargetInMeleeRange-ifPlayer<25%rage-ifNotTargetNPC
intimidatingShout-if>1Attackers-ifNotTargetNPC
whirlwind-if>3Attackers-ifTarget>30%hp
cleave-if>2Attackers-ifTarget>30%hp
//
// DEFAULT
stop-ifNotInCooldown=bloodthirst
heroicStrike

12/4/2006 3:00:46 PM

cain
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warrior cant hit your that fast. we have a 1.5 second gcd. that being said, he should have hit you, sword spec proc'd, and landed 1 special right away (probably hamstring 1.5 seconds after he charged). And then another one 1.5 seconds later

12/4/2006 3:02:09 PM

Grandmaster
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If he *was* using extensive scripts like that to 1-button you, the good news is most if not all of them won't work tomorrow. Heh.

12/4/2006 3:14:50 PM

darkone
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^^^ The warlock DoTs you up because the Default Blizzard autotargets attacking mobs and players for you.

12/4/2006 4:13:54 PM

Novicane
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let me enjoy my last night of decursive and heart

12/4/2006 4:15:27 PM

zmjrahl
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Guild plug for those of you who are looking for a new home for BC.

http://www.gunpowderandmagic.com/

PvP guild focused around winning 5v5 arenas and otherwise kicking ass. Light and optional PvE to supplement PvP gear. No stupidity or sucking allowed. Read the About the Guild forum to hear Igni say the previous at much greater length and in much greater detail.

12/5/2006 3:39:19 PM

Novicane
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^ REPORTED

12/5/2006 4:07:21 PM

darkone
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Has anyone had a chance to play with the new patch stuff yet?

Any comments on the new talents? What addons broke?

12/5/2006 4:13:34 PM

Lumex
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Server Maintenance has been extended to 8pm est.

12/5/2006 4:38:37 PM

Grandmaster
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think i can copy my beta UI over without too many errors?

12/5/2006 6:32:26 PM

Yodajammies
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anyone having trouble logging in at the "retrieving characters" screen?

12/5/2006 9:57:54 PM

DamnStraight
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^thats where im stuck

12/5/2006 10:25:05 PM

Yodajammies
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suppose to have a "response" to this within the hour.

12/5/2006 10:34:44 PM

MunkeyMuck
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So far felguard is cool. Me and my roomate can take down any class regardless of gear in a matter of second with 2 felguards out. Thinking of tryign out full destro soon.

Any idea if we will ever be able to get addons back? I can't believe they disabled macros. I just want a pet atack macro or maybe somehow bind a key to intercept but im not sure I can anymore.

12/5/2006 11:01:04 PM

XXX
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you can bind keys to pet attacks and whatnot through the keybinding menu

12/5/2006 11:11:09 PM

XXX
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haha @ pally drops in BWL

and these aren't even the right talents, they're from a real old build of beta

12/6/2006 12:11:19 AM

jaZon
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awesome, thanks for keeping that shit off all day and still not having arenas working

12/6/2006 12:28:50 AM

DamnStraight
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haha
got shaman helm off ony

gotta love alliance raids

12/6/2006 12:30:25 AM

MunkeyMuck
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yea, my crusader strike on my pally is only a 6 sec cooldown which should be 8. Also, all of the seals that pallys cast are now huge animations and it makes me feel like im playing a final fantasy or something.

12/6/2006 12:43:02 AM

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^ thought it was 10 seconds now?

12/6/2006 12:48:41 AM

MunkeyMuck
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should be 8, but its 6. I can now lay on the seal of the crusader (increases holy damage by 120 and crit chance by 3%), Seal of Command, Crusader Strike, Judge Command, and do it all over again. For some reason im not getting the 1000+ spell crits I was getting in the past but it is much more sustanable dps and Im tearing through shit.

12/6/2006 12:56:29 AM

tracer
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anybody got any mods similar to gypsymod that are updated for the new patch? i want to be able to move around some menus and stuff, but the guy that made gypsymod has stopped makin updates.

12/6/2006 1:20:13 AM

XXX
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like what menus? I use ctmod (http://www.ctmod.net) which works well, only problem is that they are still working on the hotbar improvements part of it for 2.0

12/6/2006 1:46:18 AM

tracer
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you could move like your buffs, your portrait and party members, and it would customize your cast bars too.

12/6/2006 2:34:25 AM

jaZon
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Anyone know how often honor will update now?

12/6/2006 3:12:42 AM

HockeyRoman
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I have heard everyday, but I haven't confirmed it yet.

12/6/2006 6:57:48 AM

Armabond1
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I am having a hell of a time deciding on my druid spec. 1/11/39 was ftw but now I'm not sure how I can get that synergy again. I don't like the limitations of ToL argh.

12/6/2006 7:43:42 AM

jaZon
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^^ You were right

But that shit is bugged from hell....has to be. Current BGs give 10% of what they used to....fine....but after converting honor into honor points they slash it another 10%? Bullshit. Honor Points SHOULD == Honor

12/6/2006 7:46:03 AM

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3/47/1 sucks for pvp

will dominate in pve

warrior btw

12/6/2006 7:59:13 AM

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i
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now

12/6/2006 8:00:25 AM

Novicane
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and nerf warlocks, jesus christ

12/6/2006 8:30:38 AM

darkone
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So my macros are now broken. I had a macro that would cast amplify curse if it wasn't cooling down, otherwise it would cast curse of agony.

/script local e, f, g = GetSpellCooldown(16, SpellBookFrame.bookType); if (f <= 0) then CastSpellByName("Amplify Curse"); else CastSpellByName("Curse of Agony(Rank 5)"); end;

The script function isn't avaliable for macros anymore. Is there anyway to rewrite this under the new system that will work and work in combat?

CalledToArms had a script that might make a good template if it does indeed work under the new system.

/cast [nocombat,stance:1] Charge; [nocombat,nostance:1] Battle Stance; [combat,nostance:3] Berserker Stance; Intercept

Can anyone make this work? I'm at work, otherwise I'd start trying to write a new macro on my own.

12/6/2006 10:53:53 AM

CalledToArms
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^^^^ you can still get weapons that took months to get in weeks. If you put as much time in per day as someone going for HWL would for several months, you could get weapons by the second week.

12/6/2006 11:00:00 AM

darkone
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I think I know how to fix my macros.

/cast AmplifyCurse; Curse of Agony(Rank 6)

This should do the trick. According to my reading, under the new system, if a macro is written like this, if the first listed spell fails to cast (e.g. it's on cooldown) it will cast the next spell. I'll have to test this tonight.

... now if only the rest of my addons would get updated. I'm waiting on:
Auctioneer
Count Doom
Shard Tracker Resurrection
Loot Link
Gatherer
Enchantrix
some more I can't think of right now


Additional Info: Damnit! I just read something else that says this shouldn't work. It said that I'll just keep getting an error about the cooldown still being active.

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 11:31 AM. Reason : more info]

12/6/2006 11:09:23 AM

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new honor points are basically telling me to go pimp my alt warrior out now

12/6/2006 11:34:42 AM

Raige
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Any word on Gatherer? I use that just to remember where shit was. That was scripted? I thought it just marked the map.

/shrug. It's kinda funny. Was talking with some friends and they were bitching about their scripts no longer working. One was a priest that had the auto dot and the other was a warlock with auto dot/fear/ etc on any in range person who is targetting them.

Their excuse was "If I was really there I would be able to do that!".

12/6/2006 1:02:49 PM

MunkeyMuck
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^^^ Yea I need to figure this out with my fears macro. Casts deathcoil if it's up and fear if it isn't.

Oh and felguard's 50% chance to resist AoE had a tier1/2 ally mage I was picking on in AV make a toon on balnazzar and harass me. The only thing I did was spam tongues on the kid while the felguard whacked on him. The whole pulling back the felguard and intercepting thing is taking a while to get used to. Easy if your in BG and can sick it on someone far away, target who your fighting again and intercept.

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 1:05:36 PM

ThePeter
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My friend dueled a warlock of about lesser gear level with his 60 paladin and got eaten. The paladin had about 300 dps and the warlock was draining life at 200 dps...yea...

12/6/2006 1:11:11 PM

MunkeyMuck
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I was dueling outsie of org and lost once to a tier 3 hunter and alot to a HWL shaman.

The most common phrase last night was "Look at my gear and tell me warlocks aren't overpowered"

12/6/2006 1:15:35 PM

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