Honestly it's come to the point that he deserves the JCE treatment. Too many other good people and decent arguments on here to waste time on him.

7/27/2016 9:24:02 PM

^thats typical. people in this country can't even open their mind enough to even DISCUSS things they fundamentally disagree with because they have already decided they will vote one way for all of eternity. that attitude is exactly why we are where we are today

I'm against all wars but these wars don't actually cost what they cost the government. Defense contracts are written in a way that is very generous. You see how much the olympics in russia cost. That wasn't the cost. That was corruption. Russia has extreme examples but the same thing happens in everyday government operations here. Things are knowingly inefficient, complicated, and wasteful because it allows for certain people to make more money and get more "work".

OBAMACARE is mandated health insurance. Huge gift for the health insurance companies because now the government forces every person in the country to buy their product. Of course that is not going to end well for the consumer. The same with student loans and the cost of education. This hybrid of big government capitalism is what you are talking about. Don't put that on socialism because its not socialism. Its for-profit government.

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" bull fucking shit. now you're regurgitating the talking points from his handlers doing damage control. "

so are you saying the emails still exist and can still be hacked. That means that the fbi and everyone is in on it. That would be a much bigger, massive scale indictment of corruption. If so, trump working with the russians to liberate us by exposing this would be an even more moral version of snowden.

[Edited on July 27, 2016 at 9:32 PM. Reason : a close-minded society]

7/27/2016 9:29:55 PM

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"so are you saying the emails still exist and can still be hacked. That means that the fbi and everyone is in on it. That would be a much bigger, massive scale indictment of corruption. If so, trump working with the russians to liberate us by exposing this would be an even more moral version of snowden"

jesus fucking christ. you have to try really hard to be this stupid

7/27/2016 9:34:42 PM

lol, the minority of Bernie people not booing Bloombergs dumb ass but booing Hutson tells you everything you need to know about them.

[Edited on July 27, 2016 at 9:40 PM. Reason : Though tbf, this is as good an anti-trump as it gets]

7/27/2016 9:38:29 PM

Bloomberg is a regular life-of-the-party

7/27/2016 9:39:36 PM

so if thats not what you are saying why not just clarify what you are saying because coming back just to call me stupid makes it look like you have nothing better to say.

Its funny JCE was brought up. This is what you guys do all of the time and JCE was right on with that part (i defended him about that in one thread where i completely disagreed with him)
1. state a position
2. discuss minor nuances of your position in an homogenous echo chamber
3. if someone disagrees fundamentally, call them a name

It happened in the rape thread as well. Explaining your positions is just too inconvenient.

7/27/2016 9:45:20 PM

you don't get to put a whole lot of bullshit words in to my mouth while simultaneously regurgitating the talking points from trump's proto-fascist handlers and then demand civil discourse

[Edited on July 27, 2016 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

7/27/2016 10:34:06 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-bloomberg-dnc-speech-hillary-clinton-trump-sane-2016-7

7/27/2016 10:47:28 PM

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" Honestly it's come to the point that he deserves the JCE treatment. Too many other good people and decent arguments on here to waste time on him."

Welcome to 3 years ago.

7/27/2016 10:48:38 PM

It's just a "waste of your time" to address dissent, right? You have all the time in the world for personal insults and spam, but if you don't refute someone's argument it's because they are too stupid and you are too smart, right?

I'm amazed at how the SJW posters have somehow convinced themselves that they are so intellectually superior to anyone that disagrees with them.

It's honestly just echo chamber syndrome, they just want a place to spam their leftist links in peace.

7/27/2016 11:22:41 PM

Trump asked Russia to turn over emails that were deleted 3 years ago and the subject of an FBI investigation, and may also be the subject of another potential ongoing investigation into the Clinton foundation. That's not treason - that's asking Russia to comply with the MLAT that the Clinton administration signed in 2000.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/123676.pdf

7/27/2016 11:27:30 PM

you are just the worst

7/27/2016 11:53:02 PM

And just like that, Bernie has left the Democratic party.

7/28/2016 12:35:54 AM

if that's true he's kinda a scam artist, right? i mean he railed against the system, but he was the one who used it more than anyone else if he only flipped to Dem for a 12 month period. but i guess the silver lining is that at least all of his buddies got rich off of the $27 average.

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"Trump asked Russia to turn over emails that were deleted 3 years ago and the subject of an FBI investigation, and may also be the subject of another potential ongoing investigation into the Clinton foundation. That's not treason - that's asking Russia to comply with the MLAT that the Clinton administration signed in 2000."

this is what willful ignorance looks like

[Edited on July 28, 2016 at 8:52 AM. Reason : .]

7/28/2016 8:37:43 AM

yeah Bernie fuck ed us good

7/28/2016 9:03:47 AM

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/26/bernie-sanders-to-return-to-senate-as-an-independent/

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"PHILADELPHIA – Bernie Sanders said he plans to return to the Senate as an independent, despite winning 13 million votes in the Democratic Party’s presidential primary contest. “I was elected as an independent; I’ll stay two years more as an independent,” Mr. Sanders said. Speaking at the Bloomberg Politics breakfast on Tuesday, Mr. Sanders also said the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz as chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee doesn’t go far enough in fixing the situation and that more staff members need to leave following embarrassing disclosures of thousands of internal emails. “We need a DNC which has as very different direction,” he said. “I honestly don’t know many of the people there. But my guess is we’re going to need new leadership, a new direction and new personnel.” Asked after the event whether Mr. Sanders considers himself a Democrat or an independent, a campaign aide said, “He ran for president as a Democrat but was elected to a six-year term in the Senate as an independent.” Mr. Sanders’s appearance followed his prime-time speech Monday in which he urged his supporters to back Mrs. Clinton. As for his own future in the party, he said he would remain an independent as he serves out his senate term. Vermont has no party registration. But when Mr. Sanders entered the presidential race last year he proclaimed himself a Democrat. The emails, released by Wikileaks, showed DNC aides plotting ways to undermine Mr. Sanders’s campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination. In some measure they confirm a charge that the Sanders campaign made from the beginning of the primary fight: that Ms. Wasserman Schultz and her staff wanted Hillary Clinton to prevail. On the eve of the four-day convention devoted to Mrs. Clinton’s nomination, Ms. Wasserman Schultz announced she was stepping down as chairwoman. She has played no public role in the convention proceedings. Mr. Sanders cast the DNC as an inept operation that has failed to inspire people to vote, resulting in large Democratic losses in years when the president is not on the ballot. He said the DNC needs new “leadership and a new chair that would lead the process of transforming the Democratic Party.” Donna Brazile, a longtime Democratic official, has stepped in as interim chairwoman. On Monday she issued an apology for the emails. She has also made an overture to Mr. Sanders, inviting his campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, to lend help to the committee in “voter participation” and “civic engagement.” “I’ll help Donna Brazile any way he can,” Mr. Weaver said in an interview."

7/28/2016 9:10:55 AM

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"He said the DNC needs new “leadership and a new chair that would lead the process of transforming the Democratic Party.”"

But I'm not going to help. Taking my toys and going home to VT.

7/28/2016 9:22:15 AM

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"I was elected as an independent; I’ll stay two years more as an independent,” Mr. Sanders said."

7/28/2016 9:58:01 AM

^^ where does he say he won't help?

7/28/2016 10:04:29 AM

Party loyalty is for busters.

7/28/2016 12:04:19 PM

bernie should have quit democRATS a week ago when wikileaks proved what we all knew already

7/28/2016 12:41:01 PM

oh look he capitalized RATS

that's hilarious

you kill me beatsunc

7/28/2016 12:45:41 PM

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"this is what willful ignorance looks like "

Willful ignorance is reading what I stated, know it to be correct, but continue to bury your head in the sand with the "Trump is bad and stupid" line of thinking. He hijacked the entire Republican party because no one wanted to take the man seriously. By making one bold statement about the missing emails, he trapped Hillary into suggesting that her deleted emails weren't personal in nature and instead were a national security threat. That statement was blasted by simpletons across the internet under the guise of exposing treason, yet instead it was a perfectly valid statement based on our current laws.

7/28/2016 3:13:18 PM

democRATS, more like demoCRAPS! haha, amiright or amiright!

7/28/2016 3:47:40 PM

^^and that's what doubling down on willful ignorance looks like

ok ok, do cognitive dissonance next!!!

7/28/2016 3:54:13 PM

^hurr durr, Hillary lost all her emails to the Ruskies; that makes Trump guilty of treason!

7/28/2016 4:57:11 PM

^^^^
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7/28/2016 5:15:54 PM

Funny how suddenly the left cares about treason/national security when Trump asks Russia to release hacked emails, but is fine with Clinton deliberately hiding her emails on an unsecured server and deleting the evidence and lying about it.

Is it treasonous to ask a foreign government to expose the treasonous acts of your own corrupt politicians?

7/28/2016 11:37:40 PM

She probably deleted stuff discussing presidential campaign strategies, including how to deal with Bill's multiple sexual assault allegations. You could stretch and call that a "national security" matter if used as blackmail against a sitting president. It would also be unclassified.

7/29/2016 7:35:03 AM

bumping for the assholes who didn't have the foresight to see what was coming. i'm not surprised at all by the HRC leaks but i wonder what bernie's october surprise would have been?

10/9/2016 1:46:52 PM

What do you mean "October surprise?" Are you suggesting he had some scandal that would have come out now?

10/9/2016 1:48:51 PM

If third party supporters where half as smart as they think they are, they wouldn't be third party.

10/9/2016 2:00:55 PM

I'm saying that a lot of HRC supporters back in the primary had their main arguments put to bed with the latest wikileaks. They thought a. Trump could beat bernie and b. HRC would do a of things for everyday people and genuinely wanted a lot of what bernie wanted.

If Bernie was running, i wonder what the worst thing they could have dug up on him.

10/9/2016 2:03:24 PM

They would have really nothing on him. Hopeless resignation is the real winner in this cycle:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/if-trump-werent-a-monster-clintons-speeches-would-matter.html

10/9/2016 3:39:19 PM

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"i'm not surprised at all by the HRC leaks but i wonder what bernie's october surprise would have been?"

there was never a need to have dirt on Bernie, because this election has been rigged for Hillary from the start. I think Wikileaks isn't going to drop anything damning in October, because they don't want it to get somehow buried by the media. They're waiting for November/December after Hillary has already gotten elected. Releasing ~2000 of 50,000 emails hints that they're not going to release all the emails in a month.

10/9/2016 4:56:18 PM

you are a goddamn sucker

10/9/2016 5:00:51 PM

are you too much of a simpleton to express an actual argument about why you disagree with me?

10/9/2016 5:08:04 PM

your bullshit isn't worth a debate

10/9/2016 5:46:22 PM

then why reply at all

10/9/2016 5:48:53 PM

thoughts that haven't originated from the echo chamber you live in must confuse you.

10/9/2016 6:33:46 PM

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"your bullshit isn't worth a debate"

What a trump card! I'll remember to use this intelligent rebuttal the next time I get upset with something I can't disprove.

10/10/2016 12:34:40 AM

I want to see a debate where Bernie takes on Trump.

10/18/2016 6:50:40 PM

Who knows you might see it on the Trump Entertainment Network in 2017...

10/18/2016 8:44:56 PM

Remember when everyone worried if Bernie could win the general? Lincoln fucking Chafee could have won the general this year.

10/18/2016 9:20:48 PM

He'd be doing much better than Hillary, that's for damn sure.

10/19/2016 1:45:37 AM

Is it too early to argue that Bernie Sanders could have done as well as this?

11/8/2016 10:15:26 PM

EVERYONE KNEW since february that bernie would've easily won and by a lot more than hillary.

11/8/2016 10:24:00 PM

now we know who we can't trust anymore. please progressives don't ever be fooled again by bernie and warren. they have let you down tremendously. Warren could have stepped up and endorsed bernie when the contrast on banking first appeared. They probably wouldve won the nomination.

Bernie could have saved his dignity by sitting out of the convention. you betrayed us by sheepdogging revolutionary, anti wall street votes into an antirevultionary party

11/9/2016 6:50:34 PM

bernie wasn't a sheepdog, get over it dude

11/9/2016 6:51:15 PM

apparently he wasn't a good one

11/9/2016 6:57:14 PM