Yeah the oblivion set is decent for mages, but I recommend if youre a tailor, going for the Frozen shadoweave set (or spellfire if youre a fire mage). These pieces have insane +dmg on them and stam/int to boot (the shoulders have 50 i believe). Personally I'd probably have used those instead of the tier 4 mages (the tier 4 stuff doesnt seem to have that much +dmg).

2/20/2007 1:27:17 PM

Oblivion is meh. The only reason would I wear oblivion over the half-dozen other robes that I can get in pug instances is because Im a dark pact lock. The 2-piece set bonus gives my pet 42 mp5, which basically means I get 42 mp5.

2/20/2007 2:58:11 PM

yea it would be sweet. I never run out of mama as it is.

2/20/2007 3:19:47 PM

wtb hunter pet utility

2/20/2007 3:46:15 PM

61/0/0

2/20/2007 4:08:15 PM

Quote :

"Shaman this question is for you! So I was pvping on my 62 mage and this shaman runs up with what must be lightning shield, duel wielding axes and crit me for 3600. What the HELL spec was this guy using?"

I beat a 70 mage at 64 and I am dual wielding some 52 dps axes. I don't crit for more than around 1000 though with windfury.

2/20/2007 5:30:34 PM

rofl at manipulating arena points

Why are people so god damned dense that they don't understand that in 6 weeks you can have an epic 1H that's better than anything in the game right now and all you have to do is spend 20 minutes of your time every week losing 10 arena matches?

2/20/2007 6:06:02 PM

what are you talking about?

2/20/2007 6:42:57 PM

People are refusing to do pvp arena because "it's for 1337 pvpers. it's too hard."

you don't even need to try/win/anything to get the pvp epics with the way it's set up

2/20/2007 6:54:03 PM

Quote :

"Shaman this question is for you! So I was pvping on my 62 mage and this shaman runs up with what must be lightning shield, duel wielding axes and crit me for 3600. What the HELL spec was this guy using?"

Quote :

"yeah shamans can do some good burst damage. If he was dual weilding he was enhancement spec and you may have got caught by an unfortunate windfury proc."

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=36190

and from examing the video closely I'm pretty sure he was using this weapon:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31299

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 7:23 PM. Reason : ]

2/20/2007 7:18:45 PM

in my opinion if you go 0-10 you shouldnt get shit, you should have to go .500 for the week to get any points, but thats just me

2/20/2007 8:44:05 PM

they cant do it recordwise. as more teams start getting spread out the games become more accurately 'seeded'. meaning teams around 2000 tend to only get paired against teams 1900+. a lot of times this means we are playing the same 4-5 teams that are at the upper echelon of the entire battlegroup.

so you cant say someone who goes 4-6 and only played games against teams in say the top 5 of the entire battlegroup (out of hundreds of teams) shouldnt get points while a team that had a rating of 1300 played really crappy teams that happened to be worse than them goes 9-1.

for example, our record got worse as we moved up in the ranks because you actually start seeing competition. at first everyone was 1500 and youre pulling random teams and out of the hundreds of teams most are not very good. ~1800 is a good checkpoint as you start to pull 1900 etc area teams more and less scrub teams.

2/20/2007 9:31:47 PM

fair enough, but if you win 0 games i think you can agree you shouldnt get shit lol

2/20/2007 9:54:17 PM

Quote :

"Yeah the oblivion set is decent for mages, but I recommend if youre a tailor, going for the Frozen shadoweave set (or spellfire if youre a fire mage). These pieces have insane +dmg on them and stam/int to boot (the shoulders have 50 i believe). Personally I'd probably have used those instead of the tier 4 mages (the tier 4 stuff doesnt seem to have that much +dmg)."

The +crit is nice on the Spellfire ones, but do you think going Frozen shadoweave for the +stam is nice and switching to Frost. I am not particularly attached to Fire or Frost...I am only really attached to the Arcane tree. Any suggestions?

2/20/2007 10:11:18 PM

On a different note, does anyone know a good place to quest for levels 50-60? I have a level 50 alliance paladin right now in Um'Goro crater or w/e but its nothing but grinding for drops. The xp rewards seem alright but god dammit if it isn't boring.

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM. Reason : alliance]

2/20/2007 10:53:34 PM

quest un'goro and felwood, then western plaguelands, theres a couple quests in burning steppes, then eastern plaguelands & winterspring, if not 58 by then, hit up silithus, go directly to outland at 58

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 11:58 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on February 20, 2007 at 11:59 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2007 11:57:43 PM

Quote :

"fair enough, but if you win 0 games i think you can agree you shouldn't get shit lol"

I'll agree, but such is their shitty system.

I'll do this one more week and reform the team so I start over w/ 1500 points. Cheapest AND BY FAR the easiest fucking epic I've ever bought

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 12:00 AM. Reason : ]

2/20/2007 11:59:50 PM

Quote :

"The +crit is nice on the Spellfire ones, but do you think going Frozen shadoweave for the +stam is nice and switching to Frost. I am not particularly attached to Fire or Frost...I am only really attached to the Arcane tree. Any suggestions?"

My mage was 40/0/21, and that seemed really good for pvp. I definately enjoyed frost better for "controlled crits" via frost nova & shatter. The frozen shadoweave set is definately the way to go for pvp, since youre looking for a lot of + dmg and stamina.

2/21/2007 12:01:23 AM

^^ resetting it so your team is at 1500? are you losing so much that youre below 1500? :x if you havent played games yet you should know that you can be below 500 and still be above 1500, ive seen it plenty

the system is honestly as good as youre going to get in any mmorpg pvp *rating* system imo. im not talking pvp mechanics, just the rating. ppl that go 0-10 arent getting THAT many points..itd take em like 2 months to even get 1 item but enough to keep them happy. 0 points meaning people quitting hte arena system fast.

at least this way bad teams start getting put up against bad teams and probably start going .500 again. whereas good teams get mostly good games..less pulling graveyard camp worthy teams in WSG all night and never pulling a good team.

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ]

2/21/2007 12:42:29 AM

^ We're just manipulating the shit. None of us have anything remotely resembling a pvp spec and we don't care. We just play the min 10 games, lose as quick as possible, and get our arena points.

I'm more than willing to switch to a pvp spec since my rogue is useless in pve now, but even so, I can't find anyone else that's worth a damn to join a team with, so I'll stick with losing 10 really quick, wasting 20 minutes of my time every week and getting my epic in a couple weeks.

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 3:20 AM. Reason : ]

2/21/2007 3:19:42 AM

well im not sure which piece or weapon you are talking about, but if you are going 0-10 you arent even getting 400 points a week. arena gear is 1875 for a single piece, 2H weapons, staffs, xbows are almost 4000.

it would take almost 3 months of what you are doing to get a weapon, and over a month just to get one single piece of arena gear. i mean sure it is "free"(gotta pay the small fee to reform team) but its not fast or anything. assuming your rating is somewhere between 1350-1400 each 0-10 week youll barely get one of the weapons at the end of the first arena season.

also..there are a lot of bad teams out there, i dont know why you dont try in those 10 games...if youre Qing for them anyways if youre halfway decent youll be above 1500 every week and getting more honor. heck 1600 rating takes nothing you could swing that. just seems silly to not try and reset every week when you could win a few games and get more points and still play only 10 games

eidt..just saw you were a rogue so yea itll take you a little over a month for a weapon. i suppose in that case its not that bad..however you should think about my suggestion here...if youre doing this..save all your points this arena season, DONT spend them. and then start the next arena season with like 4k arena points and buy 2 of the new weapons immediately. if you are pve spec then im assuming youre hardcore pveing in which case you can find suitable weapons now to hold yourself over

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 4:03 AM. Reason : ]

2/21/2007 3:51:13 AM

got a new toy tonight


also got some dps ring from netherspite and gauntlets from Maiden

lost the roll on the godly dps boots from the chess event...hunter boots that went to a resto shaman

w/e we'll see more of them

gg blizz

2/21/2007 4:42:38 AM

what does savagery do?

2/21/2007 9:09:20 AM

lol, Wrey, he's like leader of the best pvp guild on cho'gall "chocolate thunder" (not sure anymore if its the best still)

2/21/2007 9:36:57 AM

^^ 70AP.

^ Chocolate Thunder is definitely still one of the better PVP guilds in the battlegroup. a couple of their 2v2 teams have been the only 'non gimmic' teams to beat my priest friend and I. and by gimmic i mean 2 rogue teams with 16 straight seconds of blind on me while burning down my priest and then double evasion and alternating cheap shots on me :/. if the rogues are undead or wear their pvp trinket they shouldnt lose to our combo unless they are really bad.

Their 5v5 A-team is solid atm as well

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 10:31 AM. Reason : ]

2/21/2007 10:30:28 AM

I'm a combat mace rogue. I've always been a pretty serious PvPer, but the internet at wolf creek has taken a shit in the last week. Doing an arena team right now would be embarassing. The only thing I want to do in the game is 2v2 arena, and I can't because of it.

2/21/2007 12:37:14 PM

Have you seen the tier 3 crafted mace? Someone was telling me it's perfect for a hemo build, though I've never played a mace rogue so I really don't know about their viabilty.

2/21/2007 1:13:54 PM

how are shadow priests at 70? they melt face?

im thinking about either playing my warrior

or leveling my hunter to 70

or playing my shadow priest

or rolling a warlock

2/21/2007 1:16:21 PM

@SkankinMonky

Yeah, the tier 3 crafted mace is pretty ridiculous. The DPS and damage range are one thing that makes it great, but another thing is the fact that they're 2.70 speed. That makes them some of the only viable hemo weapons in the game right now, aside from the arena weapons and the sword off Netherspite. It would be good for combat maces, but combat maces also does fine with a 2.6 speed weapon.

2/21/2007 1:32:53 PM

Just a public service announcement..

I played WoW for two years, and now I have been clean for three months.

Please stop playing now and go back to life. It's way better.

That is all.

2/21/2007 1:47:47 PM

I've just recently switched over to a hemo build with my sword rogue (sword main/dagger off). What specs do you recommend? It seems like a faster Main would add more damage for hemo?

^grats. i played wow my senior year and still pulled off a 3.0+ GPA with relative ease while also maintaining a 2 year relationship.

If you fail at life don't blame a game, blame yourself.

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 1:50 PM. Reason : .]

2/21/2007 1:48:48 PM

aw no way someone else here is on cho'gall eh?

I'm alliance tho

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ahha, tony can't get away from this shit ]

2/21/2007 2:41:06 PM

there no way you'll be making the t3 mace/sword/axe anytime soon so don't grind blacksmithing thinking zomg t3 mace inc

its a TON of work

you're going to need 20 nether vortex or something crazy like that for the t3 anything, nobody even knows what nether vortex are

2/21/2007 2:44:08 PM

i used to play a human mage on cho'gall, was in the guild Exodus for a while.

2/21/2007 2:53:33 PM

no shit really? it's justin ya moron

2/21/2007 2:54:05 PM

I know a bunch of Alliance on Cho'gall from the guild The Dark Squirrels (I think they are Squirrel Mafia now). They used to be on Mannoroth.

2/21/2007 2:59:53 PM

Yeah they are by far the best alliance guild on cho'gall, they own some serious face.

2/21/2007 3:03:10 PM

I'm going to Azeroth for spring break. Anyone else?

2/21/2007 3:09:16 PM

Hit up Booty Bay

2/21/2007 3:16:31 PM

^^ PVE guild? cuz ive never seen or heard of them

2/21/2007 3:16:46 PM

Quote :

"I've just recently switched over to a hemo build with my sword rogue (sword main/dagger off). What specs do you recommend? It seems like a faster Main would add more damage for hemo?"

hemo did not get normalized, so the multiplier is going to be your weapon damage x speed of the weapon

whereas ambush/SS/GS/etc are all weapon damage x 2.4? (i forget the multiplier)

for hemo you always want the slowest, hardest hitting weapon you can find. What level are you?

Dalrends, teebu's blazing longsword, AQR, GM14, MSA, are hemo weapons

2/21/2007 5:48:12 PM

and holy shit i'm def getting those boots if they drop tonight.

DPS Mail is ftw ^_^

2/21/2007 5:55:45 PM

Quote :

"no shit really? it's justin ya moron"

lol, didn't notice

2/21/2007 6:25:28 PM

Quote :

"and holy shit i'm def getting those boots if they drop tonight. "

link to boots pls

[Edited on February 21, 2007 at 6:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/21/2007 6:41:55 PM

now rolling a warlock

any tips?

only got him to lvl 14 in the past day, but hopefully i'll stick with him.

2/21/2007 6:53:32 PM

^ Tips for what?

2/21/2007 9:14:36 PM

he wants you to show him your penis

2/21/2007 9:28:32 PM

pm sent

2/21/2007 11:59:35 PM

^^ just the basics...

stamina is your friend...
learn to use fear and lifetap early, get them to be a part of your routine...
drain tank if you go affliction...
and have fun with the time between 20-40 that is affectionately called the "dead time"... becomes a lotta fun at 42 though...

2/22/2007 12:17:31 AM

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28746

Fiend Slayer Boots
Binds when picked up
Feet Mail
488 Armor
+26 Agility
+23 Stamina
+25 Intellect
Durability 70 / 70
Red Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +3 Agility
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 18.
Equip: Increases attack power by 52.

2/22/2007 12:42:49 AM