i have 12 honor points

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 11:42 AM. Reason : thread will never die]

2/28/2007 11:42:32 AM

Its completely fucking awesome that they added the additional debuffs to forbearance now after 3 years of horde putting up with paladin bullshit. I, fore one, look forward to being able to kill something even slower then now.

2/28/2007 12:09:46 PM

well atleast now that the alliance have shamans they'll get buffs.

2/28/2007 12:30:01 PM

Go read the forums the forbearance changes have been thrown out as statet by eyonix but now they are looking to nerf pally burst dmg >_>.

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ;]

2/28/2007 1:02:47 PM

this is why I quit my pally at 68. It is bad enough now I feel sorry for anyone who sticks with a ret pally in the future.

2/28/2007 1:06:48 PM

Ret Pallies still do retarded burst damage and will probably continue to get better depending on itemization introduced that has more(better) +int +str +stm +dmg .

But where's the fun in that?

Holy ftw

2/28/2007 1:09:00 PM

pallies are healers

2/28/2007 1:32:30 PM

just like druids and shamans and priests eh?

2/28/2007 1:34:27 PM

exactly

2/28/2007 1:43:37 PM

again why I went to my lock. I cant do SHIT but dps . I hate playing hybrid classes.

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2007 3:13:45 PM

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/


A lock is not a heavy DPS class. You should have been a mage.



[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 5:02 PM. Reason : >.<]

2/28/2007 4:59:59 PM

Quote :

"Increased the health bonus from warrior's "Commanding Shout" by 50%. The should increase the health bonus from 730 to 1460. "

2/28/2007 5:16:55 PM

^ simple math tells you that statement alone is completely wrong. HOWEVER it is 1400 with 5/5 commanding presence, the new talent replacing 5/5 BS. (it is now BS and CS combined).

This is a very nice change for both solo and group pvp and pve

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 6:35 PM. Reason : ]

2/28/2007 6:34:48 PM

im gonna have to roll a warrior after i hit 70 on my hunter

as soon as the warrr hits 70 blizzard is guaranteed to hit it with the nerf bat.

2/28/2007 6:55:32 PM

^plz to stay away from the mage class. I'm having loads of fun just the way we are now.

^OR you could just roll 1 of each class so we all get nerfed and are even.

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 7:08 PM. Reason : fda]

2/28/2007 7:08:29 PM

rolling a lock, priest is nerfed and fucking useless in pvp now, back to the grind

2/28/2007 7:18:52 PM

lol dot dot dot

2/28/2007 10:06:53 PM

as a lock, I'm always #1 in karazhan and usually in the top 5 for gruul's lair

2/28/2007 10:17:39 PM

The druid crying right now is really out of control on the WoW forums.

2/28/2007 10:18:56 PM

perhaps a blue post explaining why the nerf is so extreme would ease the tension... but the blizz people are ignoring it.

2/28/2007 11:13:55 PM

it's not that extreme

2/28/2007 11:16:58 PM

justified or not, its extreme.

you dont cut dps by 50% to a tank that uses dps to hold aggro and not consider it extreme.

2/28/2007 11:23:11 PM

Quote :

"you dont cut dps by 50% to a tank that uses dps to hold aggro and not consider it extreme."

I keep hearing this. That's a fundamental flaw with the game that needed to be fixed. They just need to give bears more threat, but they were doing way too much damage in bear form.

2/28/2007 11:27:58 PM

yea getting hit for 2k while fighting a bear was just plain stupid

2/28/2007 11:30:51 PM

hey i'll agree with that. i'm not one of those druids that thinks we need all that damage...mainly cause i dont pvp. but they took away our threat modifiers back around patch 2.0 and bumped up our dps, now they're takin away our dps without bumpin back up our threat modifiers. this is what i find to be exceptionally retarded. that and our 41 point talent mangle now crits for around 500-700.

honestly though, in pvp, the only classes i could consistently kill were rogues and warriors. i dont see what the big deal was. every class has other classes they dont match up well against. just woulda taken some time to get use to.

[Edited on February 28, 2007 at 11:35 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2007 11:33:45 PM

easy fight, we took too long due to gruul progression

2/28/2007 11:45:48 PM

A nasty repair bill has forced me to realize that the blood elves in Netherstorm don't like to be AoE farmed. I think Blizz is going to switch me for a lock since I am relegated to single target dps. If there actually is a decent place to AoE them someone let me know.

3/1/2007 7:47:16 AM

What was your class?

I'm getting kind of tired of all the whining about class balance going on.

Look, you're not going to get an automatic "I Win." ability and really the only player that can somewhat bitch right now is a prot spec Warrior.

3/1/2007 1:42:34 PM

^ even then the only thing they have to complain about is insufficient rage generation. i still havent seen why so many warriors are saying they are having aggro problems beyond rage generation.

3/1/2007 4:08:28 PM

My guild wants me to spec my war to prot from fury since druids are gettting nerf pwnt. But I still have Twisting Nether and Shadowmoon Valley quests to do for $$. I dont want to take 5 min to kill a mob.

3/1/2007 4:13:28 PM

well imo thats not a problem with prot, you shouldnt be able to kill stuff fast with prot, which is why i stick to PVPing as much as possible. instances bore me for the most part anyways. i mean i do my fair share but yea

3/1/2007 4:15:26 PM

farming with full fury dps gear while prot isn't as bad as you think. or at least it wasnt for me, but then again i have the unmitigated 300-320 lightning proc every other swing.


i was tanking RandJ encounter, made a stupid mistake...wiped....specc'd fury for kazzak, had to respec 20m later.

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2007 4:35:46 PM

yes well i dont have my shattered halls key yet so i dont think we are quite on the same progression level.

I have the GM longsword for MH, which is great with flurry procs...wouldnt be so hot otherwise i dont think.

3/1/2007 4:39:24 PM

w00t...Sword of 1000 Truths dropped for me last night!

3/1/2007 5:57:53 PM

mark, what a coincidence, your balls and sword of 1000 truths in the same night.

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 6:50 PM. Reason : ps run me through cath]

3/1/2007 6:50:04 PM

^HAHAHAHAHA....

3/1/2007 6:57:44 PM

time to get banned

3/3/2007 12:26:12 AM

?? what am I missing

3/3/2007 12:33:51 AM

yea not quite sure what we're supposed to be seeing..

3/3/2007 1:04:02 AM

he looks dead, but has full health...thats the only thing out of place.

3/3/2007 1:42:07 AM

how to swim in mid air:

step 1: go to an outdoor arena
step 2: mount on the flying mount
step 3: get a 5-6 second stun(paladin HoJ or Warrior Conc Blow)
step 4: get frost nova'd
step 5: get sheeped
step 6: get fireblasted

and fly away

stays active as long as you dont zone in/out and or mount up

you can attack mid air, can charge etc, you only move at run speed and can't eat/drink

have fun

shaman w/ jetpack!

3/3/2007 2:48:26 AM

you are so amazingly bored

3/3/2007 2:54:11 AM

think this is bannable ?

3/3/2007 3:12:00 AM

it probably is if you're using it to some strange unfair advantage... or if you're doing it all the time, but just tooling around with it once or twice for the "ain't it cool" factor shouldn't get you banned, just get you a lil warning...

then again, i was assuming the "time to get banned" comment was sarcastic, so eh...

3/3/2007 8:16:14 AM

Since when could you be stunned or sheeped while on a flying mount, always says immune to me

3/3/2007 9:21:41 AM

Quote :

"^ even then the only thing they have to complain about is insufficient rage generation. i still havent seen why so many warriors are saying they are having aggro problems beyond rage generation."

Same. Just shows how much warrior suckage is going on. I have no problem as a rogue pulling aggro off most tanks if I want to, but there are some tanks that are just damned good at holding aggro no matter what.

3/3/2007 9:24:43 AM

Quote :

"Since when could you be stunned or sheeped while on a flying mount, always says immune to me"

start out on the ground

3/3/2007 9:29:59 AM

So, is Karazhan really as easy as I've been reading?

My slack ass guild has yet to venture forth I'm dying to see the new content

3/3/2007 9:56:29 AM

aran is the first real challenge

netherspite i find very very easy but it can be hard to learn

prince is cake

nightbane is hard at first, but bring a paladin and lol

they're changing the nightbane fight next patch so w/e still will be easy

3/3/2007 10:03:17 AM

Damn

The way things are going these slow fuckers will keep me from ever seeing it

3/3/2007 10:09:04 AM