we're on netherspite but due to lack of tanks we're having issues with the red beam
and we're workin on heroics to get nightbane summoned so thatll be fun

3/3/2007 6:22:34 PM

wtb nightbane strat

3/3/2007 9:03:59 PM

Death by Frog.

3/4/2007 1:34:51 AM

enfeeble ?

3/4/2007 3:04:11 AM

Heroics are hard even the frogs fight back.

3/4/2007 4:40:13 AM

where does everyone get off bitching at "hybrid" classes if they dont spec healer?

and fuck rogues...

[Edited on March 4, 2007 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2007 1:50:57 PM

cry more nub, l2p

3/4/2007 3:30:20 PM

hunters, what spec did you use for 60-70

3/4/2007 6:06:37 PM

what spec do you hunters use at 70 !?!?

3/4/2007 11:20:41 PM

had 8 points in BM for health and armor boosts, rest in MM, put points into survival as I leveled

[Edited on March 4, 2007 at 11:49 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2007 11:47:10 PM

7/44/10 right now

may try something else.

3/4/2007 11:58:50 PM

got some phat lewts in Scholo today...heading to outlands now that i'm 58

3/5/2007 1:15:05 AM

your phat scholo loots will be replaced by random drops in BC haha

hit 70 friday

[Edited on March 5, 2007 at 8:09 AM. Reason : .]

3/5/2007 8:08:20 AM

Time to go home and hit 70 for the first time, 4 others to follow shortly

3/5/2007 4:01:59 PM

Quote :

"<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mVbZVxiRVzheotMhbh" target="_outside">7/44/10</a> right now may try something else."

i dont know how much i like this build...you really need efficiency in there.

3/5/2007 4:16:04 PM

its is a kind of goofy build. If i were more into raiding i'd probably drop some of the survival stuff and put it into maybe effeciency. And also move endurance training to imp AotH.

Or for pvp maybe move all the points out of BM and put them into survivalist and surefooted. That extra hit and +chance to resist snares was pretty nice pre-tbc.


Of course one of the things to remember is that in this build int becomes very valuable. 2.2int = 1rap and 4 int = 1mp5 in AotV.

Also theres no way in hell im ditching silencing shot. Unless maybe i was a girl on some pve server.

3/5/2007 6:02:46 PM

Quote :

"your phat scholo loots will be replaced by random drops in BC haha hit 70 frida"

man, my phat scholo loots were replaced in under an hour so sad yet so awesome....already went from 58 to 60 in about 5-6 hours last night.

3/5/2007 11:12:51 PM

Finally finished every single quest outside of raids and heroic instances last night. 3700g in the bank after it all.

Time to run heroics till I puke....

3/6/2007 8:34:41 AM

So now that I finally got one of my chars to 70, I cant imagine being without a flying mount, time to start hording gold for my epic

3/6/2007 9:00:50 AM

im still grinding for my flying mount cuz i had to buy my epic riding after i hit 60 :'(

3/6/2007 9:02:22 AM

don't bother running heroics for money, you'll lose more money wiping than you'll get. level an alt for gold. those quests add up. I ground instances for most of my 60-70 so I have almost 4 fully untouched zones to quest in when I feel I need money.

3/6/2007 11:04:27 AM

epic flying is great but being a tailor I can epic myself out with half the gold of a flying mount. That is my first thing to do. Already have the mats for my frozenshadoweve shoulders at 68

3/6/2007 12:02:29 PM

I wish I was a master axesmith

3/6/2007 12:36:14 PM

heh thats the first thing i did when BC came out was level smithing from 0-300 so i could get to 350 and so id have the axe when i hit 70. Altho for the arenas im gonna use the gladiator's axe over stage 2 when i get the arena pts next week or two hopefully

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 1:14 PM. Reason : ]

3/6/2007 1:13:46 PM

I mean, god damn:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28433

NINETY-FIVE DPS?!

That's more than most of the epic two handers in the game.

An enhancement shaman or a fury warrior wielding those will be fucking God in all PVP.

-----------------------


Oh and fuck Blizzard for making Gladiator's Hacker "Off-hand only" in today's patch

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ]

3/6/2007 1:59:22 PM

Quote :

"don't bother running heroics for money, you'll lose more money wiping than you'll get. level an alt for gold. those quests add up. I ground instances for most of my 60-70 so I have almost 4 fully untouched zones to quest in when I feel I need money."

Oh I plan to lose money by running heroics, the pots and repair bills are crazy. I'm just running these to get some sick gear, in hopes of one day making it past the 7 mob pull in Shattered Halls Heroic.

Those Temptest Keep raid key quests are just mocking me in my quest log.

3/6/2007 2:05:14 PM

anyone on mug`thol ? i seem to recall

3/6/2007 2:22:32 PM

^^^ that 95 dps one is hte 3rd stage needing drops that only guilds clearing serpenstine are getting

3/6/2007 2:44:43 PM

^^ I have a Tauren Warrior on Mug'thol but haven't really played him lately

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 4:28 PM. Reason : d]

3/6/2007 4:28:31 PM

^what level !?

3/6/2007 6:51:17 PM

Ran heroic ramparts last nite, won this bad boy http://www.thottbott.com/?i=59784, easily one of the best feral staffs in the game right now.

Sold it to a friend for the rest of my epic mount money (1300g), and I haven't stopped zooming around the Outlands since.

3/7/2007 8:34:54 AM

got the first part of the kara key last night.

as a side note, they really nerfed feral druids! we had one in my guild last night helping us out in shadow labs and it took me almost no effort to steal aggro from him and his damage was down a lot. after some adjusting we did fine, but there was a noticeable performance hit on them.

3/7/2007 8:38:30 AM

thunderclap in defensive FTW

3/7/2007 9:01:34 AM

^as it should have been a long time ago. and now TM is in the prot tree for no reason at all really.

3/7/2007 3:00:23 PM

yea but we got 40% of TM passive now, which made me 9 kinds of happy

3/7/2007 3:06:44 PM

I wish we had mods that would clean this thread up a bit.

Its nice to have discourse on game elements but the "hey I did x last night lol!" posts are completely uninformative.

3/7/2007 3:08:53 PM

if we cleared out what you deem 'uninformative' we'd only have 3 pages MAYBE

3/7/2007 3:13:45 PM

^^^ yes that is nice but i still like full 25 in arenas sometimes (i switch between 33/28 and 34/24/3) and i have to waste points in the prot tree to get it. A tree where you are hardly ever stance dancing, or the times you are you dont need 25 rage, especially with the new TC

3/7/2007 3:26:23 PM

Yes but, 3 pages of pure :awesome:

3/7/2007 3:45:08 PM

i'm still on my way to 70 (feb was nuts at work). Trying to decide on which weapon smithing mastery to take is driving me nuts. I can argue with myself to take both Axe (spec for pvp, crit/ap for pvp and fury) or hammer (Stuns are annoying + Stun specs are annoying and top end for pvp, haste proc for fury). Anyone else go though this ?

3/7/2007 4:22:57 PM

personally, I have always been a huge fan of crits. 34% crit right now in zerker and it makes a world of a difference in PVP. I was an avid sword spec fan back in the day before it got nerfed, and mace stun is definitely nice in its own way for PVP as well. Really you cannot go wrong with a crafted weapon.

For me in PVP i like crit. The difference between hitting someone for 2000 and critting them for 4400 is the difference between a win and a loss a lot of times in the arena. Of course the stun is situational but its just insanely hard to heal through a crit machine MS warrior packaged with other dps.

I took the axe route. I am a huge stamina fan in PVP as well and I know the axe has none. but I planned on getting the arena axe for PVP within a month of the system getting out. So ill note that asap the arena weapon will be my pvp weapon and the crafted as my dps. That was the deciding factor for me between mace and axe if that helps at all. If you arent doing arena system now, and want stamina on a PVP weapon get the mace and boost your crit with crit gems.

3/7/2007 5:14:58 PM

respecced even more feral on my druid for tankin kara, and got my priest to 69....
bleh

3/7/2007 5:18:45 PM

hadn't put much though into the arena weapons but you make a point. My pvp will probably limited to a good 2v2 team and a mediocre 5v5 team for a while. My crit % wont be bad, it will be 5 and some change less with the hammer (around 29-30% for what i should be able to get my hands on quickly).

Also, does anyone know about the proc rate on the hammer smith 1 handers (pve is probably a bigger overall concern, because, as you pointed out, i can always get an arena 2 hander

3/7/2007 5:33:20 PM

you're not on overrated's 5v5 ?! they finished first in vengence battlegroup last week

3/7/2007 8:49:52 PM

I just switched from all frost to arc/fire for PvP in the arena. Does anyone have any experience with this or have a mage guildie that might be able to toss some pointers? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

3/8/2007 2:16:37 AM

I tried doing a prep/AR build for arena. It was garbage, and I switched back to 19/42/0 combat maces.

3/8/2007 2:20:01 AM

if youre talking about 5v5, if you dont have iceblock youre fairly worthless unfortuantely. however i dont know mage trees well so i dono if your spec has it or not

[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 2:23 AM. Reason : ]

3/8/2007 2:22:42 AM

30-31-0 combat maces is tits for arenas and pve. Been #1 my past (and first) three nights in karazhan, even with a lot of my damage not counting on those stupid mana shield guys on the way to curator. Those guys, seed of corruption on those fucking AE pulls, and in general not knowing the pulls or the zone and having to switch targets a lot were the only things keeping casters within 100k of me. I wish the fucker in cot heroic would drop my mace x2. I think he got buffed in the patch and he really wrecks us.

3/8/2007 3:31:11 AM

can you post that build? i've been considering looking at combat maces

right now i'm using a vigor/prep build that rocks pretty hard

3/8/2007 8:29:37 AM

the best build i can think of for mage arena is 40/0/21. It gives you the best cooldown for burst dmg (AP and PoM), gives you major boosts to crit bonus damage, and gives you ice block which is pretty much necessary for pvp now a days.

3/8/2007 11:47:19 AM