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"State's bball program made $7,314,416 in the 2011-12 season how do you proponents of paying players divvy that up"

I say $7,314,366 to Andrew Wiggins

And $50 to Warren so he can get some of those moon shoes that add like 48" to your vertical

4/4/2013 2:34:41 PM

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"Do you really think they're getting what they deserve vs. the millions that the universities/CBS/ESPN/Advertisers make?"

YES... those are grown veterans of the industry who have "WORKED HARD" to make their millions and be where they are at... college kids don't deserve this right off the bat

and newsflash...
the corporate people were in college once too. and most of them probably not getting free tuition, boarding, meals, clothes, travel etc... then they were probably temporarily broke for the first years after college paying back their student loans and having entry level salaries

/argument

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM. Reason : d]

4/4/2013 2:38:15 PM

For every Ohio State and Texas, there are hundreds of other athletic departments that make little to no money. Some even are operating in the red. How does one propose paying players? Should only rhe revenue sport athletes get paid? Should it be performance based where you get a base salary and you get bonuses based on how far you go in the post-season? No one is forcing these players to go to college. There is always the Brandon Jennings route. I'd gladly kill myself in practice playing a game I love to get my college paid for and have groupies.

4/4/2013 2:43:30 PM

there are PLENTY of non-athletic scholarships that are given out and taken full advantage of

4/4/2013 2:43:34 PM

not /argument

"newsflash..."
the "veterans of the industry" and the "corporate people" weren't physically busting their asses every day on top of their academics while they were in college. Or already making the corporations money, for that matter.

Many players aren't able to take advantage of "free education," which is a problem that's perpetuated by coaches and athletic departments.


[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 2:48:00 PM

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"[Purvis'] only chance to make the NBA eventually is to play PG at his size."

I may be in the minority, but I don't buy this.

4/4/2013 2:49:21 PM

^^^and those people usually work hard in college, and make their money after they graduate

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM. Reason : ]

4/4/2013 2:49:31 PM

apparently many of our players weren't physically busting their asses every day, especially on defense

4/4/2013 2:49:35 PM

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"^^^and those people usually work hard in college, and make their money after they graduate "

Do they rigorously practice sports every day? And entertain thousands of people? And make people lots of money? All during their college education?

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 2:56:28 PM

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"how is getting free tuition, free housing, free food, free hotels, free travel, free clothes not being compensated?"

One thing almost no one mentions in this argument... I consider providing a venue to get your name out there for professional scouters to see as a part of that compensation. I guess you could always not go to school and work hard to get recognition elsewhere but being a pawn in that billion dollar industry is currently getting their face on TV. How else are they going to do that?

It's part of the system, no one forces these kids to go to college.

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"Do they rigorously practice sports every day? And entertain thousands of people? And lay the foundation for corporations to make lots of money?"

It's a two way street. They lay the foundation for corporations, corporations lay the foundation for them to make money should they go pro.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM. Reason : -]

4/4/2013 2:56:38 PM

do you pay the players after each year? or do you give a million bucks to a blue chip recruit who flops and can't play for shit

4/4/2013 2:57:54 PM

^^


With the minimum age rule in the NFL and the Lebron James rule, it effectively "forces" kids to go to college.

But again, they can do what Brandon Jennings did.

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 2:59:23 PM

So they're working incredibly hard with ridiculous schedules for "credit" and "exposure" and "a shot at the bigs!"

I see.

Who would get hurt by paying student athletes?

Enlighten me.

4/4/2013 3:02:29 PM

Quote :

"and those people usually work hard in college, and make their money after they graduate"

those people also are sometimes paid while in college, and don't generate millions of dollars for the university while they're in school

seriously, what other BILLION dollar industry has an unpaid workforce?

I'll hang up and listen

4/4/2013 3:05:01 PM

if you add up every college bball program in the nation, they probably make $300-$350 million a year

are CBS and ESPN supposed to chip in and pay players?

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM. Reason : schools don't make billions a year]

but on a more practical note, how much do you propose to pay players? do all players get the same amount of money? how often are they paid?

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 3:06:24 PM

Quote :

"are CBS and ESPN supposed to chip in and pay players?"

Who do you think CBS et al pays for the rights?

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM. Reason : And the tourney alone cost Turner $11 billion over 14 years]

4/4/2013 3:14:56 PM

And cutting all non-revenue sports as well?

4/4/2013 3:14:59 PM

^^the schools, via the conference

but does that mean UNC should pay their bball players more than Virginia Tech?

should JP Tokoto get more money than Erick Green?

4/4/2013 3:22:25 PM

Quote :

"I'll hang up and listen"

i chuckled


The only way I ever see players getting paid is if some schools break away from the NCAA and express interest in paying athletes (potentially allowing them to attract some good players to them instead of to NCAA schools), thus potentially forcing the NCAA's hands

Like an ABA vs NBA thing from back in the day


Otherwise, the NCAA has absolutely no incentive to begin paying players since they're the only game in town

4/4/2013 3:34:46 PM

that already happens. it's called NAIA.

4/4/2013 3:40:50 PM

if the players want to get paid schools can stop offering them scholarships and can function as the actual minor leagues that they are. then the 99% of athletes who dont make it will have 4 years of minimal pay and be screwed for life. sounds awesome!

4/4/2013 3:47:04 PM

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"seriously, what other BILLION dollar industry has an unpaid workforce?"

Every unpaid (or super low wage) internship ever?

4/4/2013 3:55:34 PM

there are very specific DOL guidelines about when an internship is allowed to be unpaid, and their published rule-of-thumb is that generally unpaid interns should not benefit the company in any way. these athletes sure are benefiting some pockets. (and they also don't meet any of the requirements for unpaid interns)

4/4/2013 3:57:24 PM

I got my 6-7 figure salary from this study:

Quote :

"the average football player at an FBS - or Football Bowl Subdivision, is the highest tier in college sports - school had a fair market value of $456,612 above and beyond the value of their scholarship. The average men's basketball player had a fair market value of roughly $1.06 million over four years, not including his scholarship. (That figure is even higher at Bowl Championship Series schools: $714,000 for the average football player and $1.5 million for the average men's basketball player.)"

https://www.drexel.edu/news/headlines/study-college-athletes-worth-six-figures,-live-below-federal-poverty-line.aspx

more:
http://www.ncpanow.org/news_articles?id=0050

[Edited on April 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2013 4:01:08 PM

Quote :

"that already happens. it's called NAIA."

the naia pays their players? clearly they aren't paying shit then since the players are willing to take no pay instead

4/4/2013 4:17:13 PM

^ Even more evidence of how much value the NCAA is squeezing out of them.

4/4/2013 4:25:33 PM

chattanoogas wes moore hired as womens bbal coach

4/5/2013 2:50:34 PM

Something has to be done to be fair to Kellie.

4/5/2013 2:57:04 PM

taken school at all three levels to the ncaa tournament

490 career wins, taken chattanoga to the tournament 9 times in 16 years

never gone farther than a sweet sixteen, 57ish years old

4/5/2013 3:01:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Yow

Yow's wiki page is pretty entertaining.

Quote :

"Deborah A. Yow (born circa 1951) "

How is her actual birthday not known?

Quote :

"She said, "I spent too much time partying, and my grades reflected it. In those days we lovingly called ourselves flower children. We were very anti-establishment. I did recreational drugs back then like everyone else. To be honest with you, I don't know anybody who didn't."[1] Yow visited friends in California, but soon after returned to Gibsonville after she ran out of money."

4/5/2013 6:49:31 PM

^+face

4/5/2013 7:26:47 PM

+0.0001 for ACC championship in softball bitches.

[Edited on May 12, 2013 at 1:40 AM. Reason : ^^she's the same age as my mother <3]

5/12/2013 1:35:14 AM

for some reason DY didn't get credit for the ass waxing of UNC in rugby in mid-April

+100

cause we beat that ass 100-0

5/12/2013 2:39:42 AM

She didn't do jack shit to support club sports (rugby)
-billions

5/12/2013 3:39:25 AM

Why should she support club sports?

Club sports have nothing to do with the athletic department.

5/12/2013 12:06:19 PM

Quote :

"@PackAthletics Congratulations to NC State junior Albin Choi who has been named 2013 #ACC Men's Golfer of the Year."

5/21/2013 2:43:21 PM

Quote :

"@NCStateBaseball: Straight from Dr. Yow: If you want a seat, grab one. We're not checking anymore”"

6/9/2013 10:19:05 PM

lock this shit.

6/9/2013 11:09:05 PM

^

6/9/2013 11:33:58 PM

^^

6/9/2013 11:36:48 PM

let's not jinx it

6/9/2013 11:52:06 PM

Jinx what? We're not winning it all, we don't have the bats for that. But we'll at least be on the stage, so duck it!

6/9/2013 11:54:37 PM

Pretty much yes. We dont have the offense to get far, but just getting there is a big step. Nothing to jinx

6/10/2013 12:12:15 AM

Quote :

"Jinx what? We're not winning it all, we don't have the bats bunts for that. But we'll at least be on the stage, so duck it!"

6/10/2013 12:28:39 AM

i'm in it to win it, fuck this negamativity

6/10/2013 12:29:09 AM

+a lot of director's cup points for making the college world series.

6/10/2013 8:03:16 AM

Was never mentioned last week when the whole PNC scheduling thing was being discussed, but she deserves some credit for bringing the process back in house. The idea that we allowed the ACC to negotiate the schedule with the Hurricanes on our behalf is just mind-blowing. What did Lee Fowler do while he was here?

6/10/2013 9:49:44 AM

Ugh, not that scheduling shit again. I see enough about it on Twitter.

6/10/2013 10:02:25 AM

chris kingston, debbie's right hand man, got hired as the new AD at bowling green yesterday.

so i guess its good that she hires good people. or something.

6/10/2013 2:15:44 PM

will someone condense the scheduling issue for me? i heard David Glenn talking about briefly but lost reception of the station and never looked back into it.

did we fuck anything up? is it better now?

6/10/2013 2:19:30 PM