When you arrest for public intoxication do you go looking for drunk people, of just the ones causing a disturbance or nuisance.

6/26/2014 1:00:40 AM

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/06/30/video-shows-officer-forcing-professor-to-ground-after-being-stopped-for-jaywalking/

when are you required to show ID? obviously if you are driving a car, but if you are just walking down the street don't you have a right to remain silent and not show ID?


in other words, Is there a law saying you have to have an ID on you if you are not driving a car?

[Edited on July 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM. Reason : a]

7/1/2014 11:02:17 AM

^ it varies by state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

[Edited on July 1, 2014 at 11:07 AM. Reason : message_topic.aspx?topic=628282&page=26]

7/1/2014 11:05:04 AM

This is Amurrrica, dayumit. When the government asks for your papers you show them your papers! We can't have people walking in public and refusing to show their papers!

7/1/2014 11:11:40 AM

Only required to for over an ID when driving.

7/1/2014 4:42:59 PM

do you have to give your name in NC?

7/1/2014 5:21:17 PM

I had a buddy, years ago, who got busted for selling pot at school. Now according to my buddy, the police never read him his rights. But when his lawyer brought this up in court/grand jury, all the cops swore that they HAD read him his rights, and of course the judge/jury took the police's word over his. So he got whatever punishment he got.

Assuming my friend was telling the truth, is this sort of minor perjury common among policemen?

7/2/2014 6:29:17 PM

yes, this is common

7/2/2014 6:30:48 PM

I know a guy that got out of a DWI because the cop told the truth on the stand. The cop admitted he did not read him his rights and questioned him after he was handcuffed. There was multiple officers at the scene or something and they either forgot or thought the other one done it.

Certainly there are plenty of cops that lie in court when they know they wont be caught, but there are plenty of honest ones too.

7/2/2014 7:20:01 PM

Is it really legal for women to go topless in NC? I heard this from someone that sunbathes topless at the beach and from what I found online it seems legit. The indecent exposure statute forbids the exposure of one's "private parts" which the courts have deemed to include "sexual and excretory organs" but not a woman's breasts. There was a bill introduced not too long ago that would amend the statute to include "the nipple and any part of the areola" of the female breast, which has thus far languished.

Is this for real, or would you cite a topless woman anyway (if not for indecent exposure, then something else)?

Inquiring minds want to know. If feel like if this was for real it would be a lot more common than it is.

7/7/2014 9:58:10 AM

Couldn't breasts be considered excretory organs?

7/7/2014 10:46:28 AM

I think technically it's still legal. Don't know if they ever passed a statewide change to the law. There are certain local laws (like at public beaches) that prohibit going topless though.

7/7/2014 10:58:07 AM

A review of local ordinances for Brunswick county beach front cities/townships I find prohibitions in all of them (Caswell, Oak Island, Ocean Isle, Sunset Beach, Holden) except for Bald Head Island. Also checked Wilmington, also prohibited.

So I guess those that do it are actually breaking the law. I've always thought it was strange that female toplessness is considered more offensive than male toplessness.

7/7/2014 12:38:54 PM

Not against state law, most cities/towns have city codes covering it though.

7/7/2014 12:42:17 PM

The republicans wanted to make it a felony to show a b00b but for some reason never passed the law. It is a misdemeanor in most jurisdictions under city/county ordinances.

Asheville allows b00b showing, I think that's why the republicans wanted to pass the felony law so they could arrest all the hippies that usually vote democratic.


http://imageasheville.com/2011/08/asheville-go-topless-day-rally/

7/7/2014 4:08:46 PM

Ever heard of officers pulling this one?

http://www.wral.com/questionable-tactic-concerns-durham-police-chief/13799751/

7/9/2014 6:32:36 PM

Ehh, 911 hang up is a stretch and starting to push the line because people might feel obligated to let an officer in. But, I've heard of officers getting invited into the home to talk about a community service project and then one thing lead to another and a consent search was granted.

7/10/2014 6:52:45 PM

People are dumb.

7/10/2014 7:22:08 PM

Do people (driving in their cars) wave and smile at you in your police car? If so, how often does it happen?

7/10/2014 9:51:58 PM

I don't think I've already asked this, but are those tinted covers that go over license plates legal? Assuming not, why are there so many cars that sport them? I'd figure cops would zero in those things...

7/10/2014 9:55:55 PM

Quote :

"Do people (driving in their cars) wave and smile at you in your police car? If so, how often does it happen?"

When I drove a marked car, it wasn't uncommon. But if I was in the hood, it never happend.

Quote :

"I don't think I've already asked this, but are those tinted covers that go over license plates legal? Assuming not, why are there so many cars that sport them? I'd figure cops would zero in those things..."

They are, but if I can read it and don't need a pretexutal stop, why bother?

7/10/2014 10:16:42 PM

Because if they run someone over and run people can't get their plate? Seems like those things defeat the purpose of license plates...some of them are *really* dark.

7/10/2014 10:23:46 PM

LOL, synapse done outsmarted the cop for real.

7/10/2014 10:55:22 PM

Don't have any authority to make them remove it.

7/10/2014 10:57:26 PM

The license plate frame law seems stupid (and I believe one of the cops in this thread defended it)

These things you are talking about right now seem legitimately illegal.

7/11/2014 5:36:26 AM

My bad, guys. I was confused.

I can't believe they banned a bunch of plate frames but declined to ban those stupid covers.

7/11/2014 12:34:15 PM

I think the covers *are* illegal, it's just that the cops don't wanna do much about them (sample size of 1 here)

7/11/2014 1:14:21 PM

^^ They are illegal, similar to the plate frames (which cannot cover the sticker or state name), a tinted cover over the registration place is considered concealing it.

7/11/2014 2:25:32 PM

Are you saying concealing the registration section of the plate, and not the plate digits themselves, is the crime?

7/11/2014 2:54:43 PM

Yes, either:

Plate frame violation of concealing the stickers and/or state name.

Tinted/mirrored/blurry whatever cover that covers the registration plate is also a violation.


Don't forget your registration plate cover lamp either.


More specific answer to your question, the plate frame violation is an infraction, the concealment is a misdemeanor crime.

[Edited on July 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM. Reason : crime]

7/11/2014 3:14:38 PM

So why is the focus on registration stickers and not the plate characters? Jk I'm sure its money

7/11/2014 6:39:58 PM

See you all in March

7/21/2014 5:40:30 PM

Quote :

"They are, but if I can read it and don't need a pretexutal stop, why bother?"

I didn't read all 29 pages of this post, just the first and last, but it seemed that a lot of people were hating on GOD for hating on the cops.

I feel like he made a lot of valid points and that this comment kind of validates.

Quote :

"pretexutal-denoting or relating to arrests or minor offenses that enable authorities to detain suspects for investigation of other matters."

In other words, its an excuse to violate you civil rights. Cops take an oath to uphold the constitution but I feel like its just words to them, especially after cops were responsible for the gun confiscations that took place during Katrina. Therefore I feel that their powers to violate our rights should be severely limited.

A smart lawyer will tell you that it is never a good idea to say anything to police.

Quote :

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc"

That being said, this is my last comment on this thread.

[Edited on July 22, 2014 at 9:59 AM. Reason : .]

7/22/2014 9:58:30 AM

Quote :

"A smart lawyer will tell you that it is never a good idea to say anything to police. "

i talked to the cops while i was sitting in the middle of highway 29 at 2:00 am monday morning. then i took a nap.

i should have just stared straight forward when he was talking to me and not responded, right?

7/22/2014 10:44:55 AM

Quote :

"I didn't read all 29 pages of this post, just the first and last, but it seemed that a lot of people were hating on GOD for hating on the cops. I feel like he made a lot of valid points and that this comment kind of validates. Quote : "pretexutal-denoting or relating to arrests or minor offenses that enable authorities to detain suspects for investigation of other matters." In other words, its an excuse to violate you civil rights. Cops take an oath to uphold the constitution but I feel like its just words to them, especially after cops were responsible for the gun confiscations that took place during Katrina. Therefore I feel that their powers to violate our rights should be severely limited. A smart lawyer will tell you that it is never a good idea to say anything to police. "

I don't think you understand the meaning of a pretexutal stop. Let's go through this step by step. Let's say, you (pretend you're a law enforcing, murderer seeking, super detective) have video evidence, some linking evidence, whatever else. you're building a case against a murder suspect for killing a store clerk in a robbery. You've identified the vehicle they used or something of the matter and are conducting surveillance. You see your suspect get in the car and drive away. Maybe you call for a patrol officer to come try to stop the car to identify your homicide suspect, but don't want to tell them you're stopping them because you know they have killed someone.

A patrol officer follows bad guy who then throws a cigarette out the window. Patrol officer stops bad guy for LITTERING, with the intentions of following up, obtaining information, gathering evidence, etc of something NOT LITTERING.

Two things, they would never do this with a homicide suspect, at least not in my department and two, this works for other crimes as well.

But, moral of that example, it's not a violation of your constitutional rights to conduct a traffic stop/detainment/investigation stop if you have stopped them for a violation to begin with, even if it's a pretextual stop.


Don't forget, law enforcement officers are people just like you... We can walk about public places and even come up to you and talk to you and have a VOLUNTARY encounter. We are not barred from talking to you without reasonable suspicion or probable cause... Our presence alone and walking up to you and having a conversation with you is not a detainment unless it's a detainment... If you're unsure, ask, and ask if you're free to leave.

7/22/2014 11:26:01 AM

regular people can't use blue lights to start their voluntary conversation

7/22/2014 11:27:32 AM

whenever i've had a conversation with an officer (traffic stop, giving information about something i saw, etc) i've always been direct, respectful, and friendly. it has always been reciprocated.

7/22/2014 11:41:27 AM

^likewise. Except for the cop from Emporia, VA. That guy was a prick. He can eat a bag of dicks

7/22/2014 12:59:05 PM

Quote :

"regular people can't use blue lights to start their voluntary conversation"

neither can police..

7/22/2014 1:07:27 PM

Emporia wrote me for 9 over once. GFY.

7/22/2014 5:31:48 PM

on a scale of typical cop dick to diamond

how hard are the dicks on the private cop forum you post on right now

8/14/2014 6:37:16 PM

yes, we get it... you don't like cops. didn't your wife murder someone?

8/14/2014 6:40:19 PM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

8/14/2014 6:44:10 PM

such a laughing matter.

8/14/2014 6:45:19 PM

i'm serious as a fucking heart attack

fuck Smath74 and his shit attitude and shit obeisance

what is the response to ferguson on your private cop message boards

the floors must be absolutely slick up in that shit

8/14/2014 6:47:45 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8/14/2014 6:49:42 PM

if i had a badge and told you to shut your cock holster you would

so shut the fuck up and let the cop speak

8/14/2014 6:51:32 PM

only respect authority when it is convenient for you.

8/14/2014 6:58:03 PM

stop shitting up the thread

i want to hear about how cops are talking about this when the public ain't there to hear it

what is the ratio of N-bombs to posts

i'm guessing it's about 1.5:1

8/14/2014 7:00:08 PM

is there any cop in this thread in any way connected to the cops in this case?

8/14/2014 7:00:39 PM