3 pages of bitchin

9/2/2007 3:47:47 PM

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"If it can't be downloaded or borrowed, I don't care"

yep

no need for schoolkids for me

9/2/2007 4:15:07 PM

i wondered how fye and suncoast were still open

now it all makes sense

MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS

9/2/2007 10:14:19 PM

http://johnmaddenholes.ytmnd.com/

9/2/2007 10:32:13 PM

R.I.P. SCHOOLKIDS @ CHAPEL THRILL

VIVA SCHOOLKIDS IN RALEIGH

2/27/2008 8:44:30 AM

haha I had fun reading my own posts

I think I'm funny

2/27/2008 8:51:45 AM

hey man, why don't you go get some fucking man boots, that'll make you feel better.

2/27/2008 9:00:01 AM

the concept of paying for recorded music seems so foreign to me...

if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to hear it.

2/27/2008 9:16:18 AM

...

2/27/2008 9:21:09 AM

the concept of paying for food seems so foreign to me...

if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to eat it.

the concept of paying for clothes seems so foreign to me...

if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to wear it.

the concept of paying for housing seems so foreign to me...

if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to live in it.

2/27/2008 9:46:02 AM

Anything before noon is too early.

2/27/2008 10:10:20 AM

my problem with Schoolkids is with Used Vinyl selection (which I know they cant control all the time, but...)

I was in the store when a guy brought in probably 50 used records, including some badassery like an Uncle Tupelo disc.

I watched the guy behind the counter thumb through everything, putting all the cool in one pile for himself and designating all the weird crappy stuff into the "shelf" pile.

Another time, my friend asked them to order Daydream Nation for him on the big disc, and instead they just opened a special cabinet of all the cool new vinyl they were holding for their friends/themselves instead of putting them out.

So, yeah, go check out the used records there. Frustratingly poor selection. Nice Price FTW.

2/27/2008 10:14:10 AM

File photo of hooksaw.

2/27/2008 10:42:16 AM

^^ a simple solution is to make friends with someone that works at schoolkids

2/27/2008 10:43:41 AM

haha this thread is awesome. an old guy (hes like 50 right) doesn't like the music being played at a college record store. awesome. i bet he goes to PBs and complains about the wait for $1 drinks too.

2/27/2008 10:53:21 AM

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"Another time, my friend asked them to order Daydream Nation for him on the big disc, and instead they just opened a special cabinet of all the cool new vinyl they were holding for their friends/themselves instead of putting them out."

There's a copy of it in with all the other new vinyl right now.

Plus I just bought a used record there for $1. They've made more space for those recently.

2/27/2008 11:34:18 AM

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"the concept of paying for recorded music seems so foreign to me... if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to hear it."

i'm so fucking tired of that sentiment its not even funny

2/27/2008 1:08:50 PM

i like how they've expanded the new vinyl section. sux the chapel hill one is closing though

2/27/2008 2:42:52 PM

love this thread.

love it.

i wanna continue my argument, though.

i said:

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"you never told me why 11 AM on a wednesday is an inappropriate time for loud music"

hooksaw said:

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"I haven't answered because it's a ridiculous question. Why does one person like Lucky Charms and another Cap'n Crunch? Is either wrong? To each his or her own."

So, to continue...to each his own, SO DON'T BITCH AT THE FUCKING KID.

2/27/2008 2:47:29 PM

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" haha it was otis redding. SOOOOO obscure"

2/27/2008 2:49:02 PM

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"There's a copy of it in with all the other new vinyl right now. Plus I just bought a used record there for $1. They've made more space for those recently."

but the point is, at the time... they weren't putting something cool on the shelves that they had in the store b/c of employee favoritism. and yes, I know they've made more space, but there's still just a bunch of random stuff that hasn't really moved from the shelves in months. Nice Price has a "new arrivals" for their used vinyl, which is nice. I'm not sure who gets sold more, though, so no judgment.

all that said, no big deal, I'll continue to shop there and have them order new Vinyl for me... it is worth the extra dollar (and usually there isn't any markup) over ordering it from some online retailer if it keeps business coming to the record store in my neighborhood

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 1:50 AM. Reason : l]

2/28/2008 1:50:14 AM

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""the concept of paying for recorded music seems so foreign to me... if it ain't free (or close enough) then i don't want to hear it.""

wow. If you want musicians to work for free, don't be surprised when you end up with some shitty music.

2/28/2008 1:54:20 AM

or better music.

think about it.

2/28/2008 1:55:02 AM

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2/28/2008 2:43:01 AM

2/28/2008 4:43:35 AM

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"to answer an earlier question, places like fye and suncoast are owned by the same people as best buy, they charge more specificly to drive you to best buy where they hope you will end up spending a boatload more on multiple items, plus the sales they do make are much higher profit margin so they can still handle doing less business and are often convieniently placed take it from a former retail employee"

I agree with you on the concept you are talking about, but Best Buy does not own FYE or Suncoast. They are subsidiary brands of Trans World Entertainment.

Trans World:
- Coconuts
- FYE
- Spec's Music
- Saturday Matinee
- Suncoast
- Wherehouse Music

Best Buy:
- Audiovisions
- Five Star
- Future Shop
- Geek Squad
- Magnolia
- Pacific Sales
- Speak Easy

2/28/2008 5:05:16 AM

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"So, to continue...to each his own, SO DON'T BITCH AT THE FUCKING KID."

vinylbandit

For the record--ha-ha, get it? --I didn't "bitch at the fucking kid," ass. I politely asked him to turn down the music just a little so I could ORDER CDs, YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT!!!1 I COULDN'T CONDUCT THE BUSINESS TRANSACTION, DO YOU GET IT NOW, YOU STUPID FUCK?!!!1

Ahem. . .after I made a polite and reasonable request that would have facilitated an exchange of currency for a good that theoretically would produce a profit, which I assume is the purpose of the establishment in question, the employee at issue condescended, which should come as no surprise to anyone that is even remotely familiar with hipper-than-thou attitude of Schoolkids Records.

In any event, concerning the Chapel Hill Schoolkids, "another one bites the dust"--bada, boom, boom, boom.

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 5:32 AM. Reason : .]

2/28/2008 5:31:15 AM

quit whining already

2/28/2008 7:21:41 AM

i still don't understand hooksaw attesting "hipper-than-thou" to schoolkids employees. i've worked there for three years, and i'm a fucking geek. i'm also pretty sure that nobody there gives a fuck what you buy. thomas is really skinny, though, if that's what you mean.

and to the dude that missed the uncle tupelo record: don't you have any perks at your job? i'm an adult making less money that most kids in high school. you're damn right i'm taking the records i want first. i do feel bad you had to see it, though.

also, the folks at nice price take what they want before putting it on the shelves. that's how it works at every record store. it sucks, but, hey, i go record shopping all the time and get a little bummed when i spot all the awesome shit behind the counters of other stores. at least schoolkids doesn't check every piece of vinyl on ebay before putting it out.

[Edited on February 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason : ]

2/28/2008 11:31:50 AM

Good thread.

2/28/2008 12:17:14 PM

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"also, the folks at nice price take what they want before putting it on the shelves. that's how it works at every record store. it sucks, but, hey, i go record shopping all the time and get a little bummed when i spot all the awesome shit behind the counters of other stores."

This is true. When one of my buddies worked at Nice Price, I had a standing order for any quality britpop vinyl that showed up (Suede, Pulp, etc.) and I got some nice stuff without having to really hunt for it.

2/28/2008 1:05:52 PM

^ and ^^^... true, but it is worth knowing that the record store suffers as a result.

as in, I have quit going to Schoolkids to browse used records because it has been the same shit for months and months. I'll still buy new and get you guys to order me new vinyl instead of hitting up an online store, but... I'm not the only person who has noted the lack of quality used records at the neighborhood record store

2/28/2008 8:27:05 PM

to summarize:

1. don't play loud music at 11am
2. don't be old
3. don't be hip
4. make friends with someone that works at schoolkids to get what you want

2/28/2008 8:40:10 PM

cd alley has always been better anyways

2/28/2008 8:41:07 PM

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"to summarize: 1. don't play loud music at 11am so loud that a business transaction can't be conducted. As for music volume at 11 a.m., hell, even bars ease into the harder and louder stuff as the hour grows later 2. don't be old--except that the alternative is worse 3. don't try to be too hip 4. make friends with someone that works the employess at Schoolkids Records should 'make friends' with customers so that they continue to have jobs--just ask the former employees of the Chapel Hill store to get what you want"

Fixed.

[Edited on February 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

2/29/2008 3:37:35 PM

NEVER FORGET

2/29/2008 3:37:58 PM

I have no doubt that I could beat the ever living fuck out of everyone that has posted in this thread

2/29/2008 3:47:40 PM

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"2. don't be old--except that the alternative is worse"

Wait...what?

Are you talking about being young or being dead?

2/29/2008 3:57:07 PM

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"employess"

lol, gramps

2/29/2008 3:58:43 PM

i tried to leave this thread alone, but i have to say something now

so here is the deal. you came in around lunch time, so both our general manager and owner were still there. not that we play the music really loud anyways, but if they were there, there's no way the music was too loud to conduct a business transaction. in fact, i asked our general manager (who is over 50) later that day if it was too loud when you came in, and he said it wasn't even loud at all. also, I have never had anyone ever come up to us and tell us to turn the music down in the 2 1/2 years I have worked there.. so obviously we know what a reasonable volume for music to be played at is

second, i read a few posts up where you are basically celebrating the fact that the chapel hill store closed.. what the fuck? who does that? i'm sorry that your old-ass ears couldn't handle some fucking "vintage" Otis Redding playing through the store speakers, but is that really reason to be happy about someone's store closing.

and I am "friends" with plenty of returning customers.. and i'm pretty sure the friendliness of the Chapel Hill employees was about 0.00003% of the reason that it closed. no one i know that works there (which is 3 other people) has a "hipper than thou" attitude towards customers.

i heard barnes and nobles has a super sweet music collection you can check out.. you might even get to hear some enya while you browse.. i'm sure it won't be too loud either, so don't worry


in conclusion, fuck you.

[Edited on February 29, 2008 at 8:26 PM. Reason : whoops]

2/29/2008 8:25:35 PM

Fuck yo Sonic Youth ... gimme Ja-Rule!

2/29/2008 8:50:15 PM

^^

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"I hate to see anybody out of work, though. And I don't want any record stores to close--I was just looking for a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T on my B-day. "

hooksaw

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Wrong again, you fucking loser.

[Edited on March 1, 2008 at 8:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2008 7:59:52 PM

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"4. would you walk in a restaurant, mall-store, bestbuy, etc., and ask them to turn music down? no. so don't think it's socially acceptable here, hooksaw. "

I think a better analogy would be going in to a restaurant and asking them to stop serving you food.

Unless the music was violating OSHA standard or legal levels of loudness, you've got to be a complete douchebag to go in to a music store and complain about music being played.

3/1/2008 8:15:40 PM

Okay, I'm going to try this one more time:

Q. As long as the music in the store can still be heard, why should it be a problem if a customer asks that the volume be turned down just a little so he can hear himself order CDs?

A. Because the store employee at issue and many here support and perpetuate hipster bullshit as more important than a sale or customer satisfaction. And it's just one more reason that independent record stores across the country are closing at a rapid pace.

Q. Why does it matter what music was playing at the time? Why does the store employee keep incessantly reminding us that Otis Redding was playing?

A. It doesn't matter--the music was not the issue; the volume was. Because he wants others to know that he was playing cool music--HEY, JUST LIKE HE DOES IN THE FUCKING STORE!!!1

Q. Has anyone else asked that the volume be turned down a little?

A. Yes. I was standing right there when another guy about my age asked a kind of short guy with bushy hair, glasses, and maybe a beard to turn it down. I mean, you couldn't even hear yourself talk.

Related issues: If some of you weren't so fucking stupid, you'd realize the following:

The Graying of the Record Store

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"Industry statistics bear out the graying of the CD-buying public. Purchases by shoppers between ages 15 and 19 represented 12 percent of recorded music in 2005, a decline from about 17 percent in 1996, according to the Recording Industry Association. Purchases by those 20 to 24 represented less than 13 percent in 2005, down from about 15 percent. Over the same period, the share of recorded music bought by adults over 45 rose to 25.5 percent, from 15 percent."

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"The dominance of older buyers is especially evident at smaller independent stores in metropolitan areas, where younger consumers tend to be more tech-oriented and older music fans tend to be more esoteric in their tastes, said Russ Crupnick, an analyst with the NPD Group, a market research firm [emphasis added]."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/fashion/sundaystyles/16store.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

YOU SHOULD BE CATERING TO THE OLDER CROWD--NOT RUNNING THEM OFF, DOUCHE BAGS!!!1

Why music really is getting louder

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"Peter Mew, senior mastering engineer at Abbey Road studios, said: 'Record companies are competing in an arms race to make their album sound the "loudest". The quieter parts are becoming louder and the loudest parts are just becoming a buzz.'"

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"Bob Dylan has joined the campaign for a return to musical dynamics. He told Rolling Stone magazine: 'You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like – static.'"

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1878724.ece

The Death of High Fidelity
In the age of MP3s, sound quality is worse than ever

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17777619/the_death_of_high_fidelity

MANY OF YOU ARE THE VICTIMS OF THE LOUDNESS WAR AND YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO EVEN REALIZE IT!!!1 AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTIS REDDING SONG, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, GET IT? I'M TALKING ABOUT A GENERAL TREND!

Bottom line: When I was standing there looking you right in the eyes and I asked you to turn down that music, you did, didn't you?

3/2/2008 1:53:14 AM

LOL

3/2/2008 1:54:26 AM

WHO CARES!

3/2/2008 1:54:29 AM

hoooooo geez

3/2/2008 10:49:57 PM

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"you fucking loser"

says the 40+ year old guy who has thousands of posts on a college message board

AND who was reportedly wearing pajama pants at the time that this happened. at 11:45 in the "morning."

3/2/2008 10:57:49 PM