justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27617 Posts user info edit post |
She's doing normal rookie things. The only people who thought she was going to like take the wnba by storm and be the best player on the planet were people who don't actually watch sports and just like hot takes on the internet. 5/19/2024 5:12:10 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " So I'm seeing a lot of media posts out there about how Caitlin Clark isn't able to hack it in the majors, and I've seen clips that support that opinion but
It also seems like she's getting hazed pretty hard by the league, and even her own team. There was an awful screen the other night, and not one of her teammates yelled out to her.
Thoughts?
She's bringing a lot of good press to the WNBA...you would thing her fellow players would appreciate the record viewership and attendance." |
it’s tough for any rookie who makes the jump from college to the pros. she’s also only played 3 games. she’ll be fine.
she’s not the first rookie who is getting a tough welcome from professionals, and she won’t be the last
that last line is absurd. no veteran is going to kiss the ring of a rookie. 5/19/2024 5:13:41 PM
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rwoody Save TWW 37416 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure that screen is this one and it's basic as hell. Without being on the court you can't know what her teammates did or didn't say or did or didn't see. Sometimes you just run into a solid screen, part of the game https://twitter.com/LakeShowYo/status/1791896182182314191 5/19/2024 6:07:16 PM
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rjrumfel All American 22969 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, that's the one. 5/19/2024 8:45:35 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
that’s a textbook screen
there’s nothing awful about it
[Edited on May 20, 2024 at 1:57 AM. Reason : .] 5/20/2024 1:54:23 AM
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stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
The team is bad. Can’t compete inside against any of the teams they’ve played against so far. Even though CC is trying to make some passes that are ill advised her teammates have failed to catch some passes that any of the Iowa players would have caught. The Fever have a ceiling of making the playoffs this year. Realistically they are a 10-13 win team, maybe 15. Clark stands around too much off the ball, is a defensive liability against the more physical pro game. That’ll improve with time but a week or two of practice and two preseason games can’t prepare you for the difference between college and pro game. 5/20/2024 6:32:08 AM
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Kickstand All American 11476 Posts user info edit post |
CC has a lot of raw talent, but she put up gaudy numbers in college by being a ball hog. Her fg % and 3pt % numbers weren't great. She took a ton of shots, even if they weren't falling for a quarter or quarters.
What about all those assists she had? Her AST/TO ratio wasn't great.
She's kind of like the overly-enthusiastic-pick-up-game-guy that runs point, but is all over the court trying to be involved in everything going on all at once. You don't really want him on your team, but he does keep the action going.
She'll get better as she meshes with her team, but she needs less yes men/women around her and more hazing (not in the literal sense, but she does need to be humbled by some vets). 5/20/2024 10:29:42 PM
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rwoody Save TWW 37416 Posts user info edit post |
Man I'm no CC fan but 38% is a phenomenal percentage on 14 3s per game as the primary scorer against the other teams top defender and double teams with pressure out to half court.
And it's not like she was shooting them into the toilet! They won 3 straight conf championships and went to two final fours!
[Edited on May 20, 2024 at 11:51 PM. Reason : E] 5/20/2024 11:46:46 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
it’s an incredible percentage especially considering what her range is
^ not just two final fours. two national championship games
more than a bit absurd to attempt and downplay her game/college career
[Edited on May 21, 2024 at 12:54 AM. Reason : .] 5/21/2024 12:52:10 AM
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dmspack oh we back 25293 Posts user info edit post |
lol at basically calling Caitlin Clark a stat compiler and a chucker. 5/21/2024 6:54:54 AM
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rwoody Save TWW 37416 Posts user info edit post |
Luka Doncic shot 38% on 10 3s this year and is widely regarded as an extremely dangerous shooter.
Cc also had a 2-1 ast-to ratio. Westbrook was 2-1 during his MVP season 5/21/2024 7:22:52 AM
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Kickstand All American 11476 Posts user info edit post |
She is the Jayson Tatum of the WNBA.
https://youtube.com/shorts/HpGAOpcUS3s?si=9gGC__mCD_xWiK7x
Wah wah wah! 5/21/2024 3:06:26 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
what are you even attempting there? 5/21/2024 4:06:45 PM
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rwoody Save TWW 37416 Posts user info edit post |
She's a super star that will lead the fever to playoff 1 seed maybe?
Or do they think CC is the first player to vocally complain about fouls.
Keep bringing the takes it's entertaining 5/21/2024 4:26:03 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148060 Posts user info edit post |
Is Jayson Tatum the NBA player who you most associate with complaining to refs? 5/21/2024 8:15:17 PM
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StTexan Suggestions??? 6647 Posts user info edit post |
^wouldn't that be lebron or luka? 5/21/2024 8:44:07 PM
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Kickstand All American 11476 Posts user info edit post |
^^ What I previously posted are some disjointed thoughts. She's the Jayson Tatum because she has a high scoring average, but she also takes a ton of shots, and makes a below average percentage of them.
She's probably the Luka or LeFlop of complaining, but that hasn't really been established after 3 games. (Kind of like it can't be established yet if she will be an all-star, Kickstand. )
I'll double down since you like my takes. She's acting like a b*tch. I don't think I can say that can I? How about a prima donna? It's okay to be the heel though. Not everyone wants to be a model citizen. Charles Barkley was once a heel, but is now beloved. 5/21/2024 9:05:05 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
she’s nowhere near a below average shooter 5/21/2024 9:12:24 PM
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dmspack oh we back 25293 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " She's the Jayson Tatum because she has a high scoring average, but she also takes a ton of shots, and makes a below average percentage of them." |
Are we talking about her entire career or her 4 game sample size in the WNBA?
Also sorta feels worth pointing out that she had an entire like 4 weeks off between Iowa’s season ending and wnba season starting.
Seems fine to not like her attitude on the court. Seems like hater shit to act like she’s just a statistical compiler. 5/21/2024 9:20:46 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
I was trying remember a post of dude making a complete ass of himself when it comes to women’s basketball, and I found it:
Quote : | " I reckon to Kim Mulkey, bad publicity is better than no publicity. She lets that A. Reese girl bring out her thuggery more and more each game." |
5/21/2024 10:04:58 PM
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rwoody Save TWW 37416 Posts user info edit post |
Id love to hear the definition of "average" that makes Tatum "below average" 5/21/2024 10:29:50 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
it would rule if Caitlin Clark came out and disavowed the right wing chuds who have decided to champion her as their Great White Hope 6/2/2024 3:25:51 PM
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StTexan Suggestions??? 6647 Posts user info edit post |
^^i think it is that she doesn't have a good field goal percentage for someone who takes a lot of shots. Is that a knock on Jason Tatum? 6/2/2024 6:22:12 PM
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HaLo All American 14216 Posts user info edit post |
Good grief the rest of the WNBA is shooting themselves in the foot. The league should have suspended what’s her name for at least a game for the cheap shot Saturday. Clark goes down out for the season and WNBA viewership plummets.
Stole this from Facebook
Quote : | " More people watching + More ad revenue + Higher television deals = More money It's the reason why NBA players are making 100+ million. The WNBA players should be embracing Clark. She's reviving a dead brand. So many WNBA athletes complained about the pay. Clark is the driving force of WNBA players getting higher contracts and endorsement deals. Instead, Clark is heavily criticized and getting cheap-shotted. Clark's impact cannot be overstated. She's not just a player; she's a game-changer for the entire league, paving the way for higher pay and greater recognition for WNBA athletes." |
6/4/2024 1:26:45 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148060 Posts user info edit post |
The whole "you should love what she's doing for the league" thing is unrealistic. Hey defensive ends and linebackers, you should love what this rookie running back is doing for the league and tackle him lightly" 6/4/2024 2:28:56 AM
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HaLo All American 14216 Posts user info edit post |
A) Basketball is not a tackle sport B) The NFL certainly understands where its bread is buttered and has made multiiple rule changes to “protect” QBs 6/4/2024 7:59:12 AM
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Wolfey All American 2661 Posts user info edit post |
So I don't watch women's basketball much, its just not my cup of tea. I realize for whatever reason the sports media has annointed Caitlin Clark. I know she is a good shooter and set the collegiate scoring record.
I also know that the WNBA had an increase in ratings last season, not sure if that had to do with Britney Griner and her prisoner exchange from Russia or the talent. So CC is on a pretty bad team from what I can tell, yet they are getting the bulk of the nationally televised games. I am sure thats gotta annoy some players on teams that are really good, like the Las Vegas and New York.
So was that a flagrant foul yes. I also think its telling that none of her teammates are rushing to defend her, its almost like she thinks she is bigger than the game. 6/4/2024 8:17:34 AM
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dmspack oh we back 25293 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its almost like she thinks she is bigger than the game. " |
What has Clark said or done to make you think that she thinks this way? 6/4/2024 9:37:30 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Good grief the rest of the WNBA is shooting themselves in the foot. The league should have suspended what’s her name for at least a game for the cheap shot Saturday." |
Clark’s gonna hurt herself if she keeps flopping like that
there was nothing egregious about the hip check and it’d only make things much worse for her if the WNBA started to coddle her by suspending players 6/4/2024 9:46:41 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/06/04/caitlin-clark-chennedy-carter/
Quote : | " The ugly discourse surrounding Caitlin Clark
Caitlin Clark is here to save the WNBA, as long as she doesn’t get touched." |
[Edited on June 4, 2024 at 10:34 AM. Reason : .] 6/4/2024 10:34:16 AM
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dmspack oh we back 25293 Posts user info edit post |
Everybody seems to think they have to have an opinion on what happened. 6/4/2024 10:43:14 AM
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Bullet All American 28204 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“I grew up with all brothers,” Carter, a fourth-year player, wrote. “All we did is fight and argue. I love the hate more than the love … I’d rather you hate me [than] love me and I mean that on my dead aunt" |
6/4/2024 11:12:21 AM
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Kickstand All American 11476 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think it is that she doesn't have a good field goal percentage for someone who takes a lot of shots. Is that a knock on Jason Tatum?" |
That's what I was saying. Both of them take a high percentage of 3's, comparatively, but they rank lower in terms of 3 point field goal percentage. 6/4/2024 1:17:52 PM
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rjrumfel All American 22969 Posts user info edit post |
I came here to see everybody’s hot takes on CC, and it didn’t take me very long to find TGL complaining about right wing chuds.
If it quacks like a duck I guess.
I think a happy medium needs to be reached here. CC needs to stop trying to flop so much to draw fouls, I agree with TGL she’s gonna get hurt. And the league needs to let up some…some. If both things happen, I see great things ahead for the WNBA. They’ve got at least three good rookies that are making waves, and now Martin has gotten into the fray with some of her comments backing up CC.
It’s unfortunate that people are only chiming in for the drama and not just watching good basketball, but hey ratings are ratings. 6/5/2024 9:15:21 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
drama is part of every sport and is a huge reason people tune in 6/5/2024 9:38:24 AM
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marko Tom Joad 72811 Posts user info edit post |
NOT A GAME NOT A GAME
WE TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE
PLAYOFFS? I JUST HOPE WE WIN A GAME. 6/5/2024 10:09:16 AM
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dmspack oh we back 25293 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It’s unfortunate that people are only chiming in for the drama and not just watching good basketball, but hey ratings are ratings" |
Narratives and drama are why people watch sports. It’s why we have so many sports talk shows where people just fire off their hot takes. It’s why the NFL gets insane coverage all through the offseason. People generally aren’t tuning for in depth X and O breakdowns. They want the storylines of Kyrie going back to Boston. Or a hot shot rookie coming in and either taking the league by storm or getting her welcome to the league moments. The quality of the product matters. But the storylines and individuals are what sells in all sports. 6/5/2024 10:11:06 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I came here to see everybody’s hot takes on CC, and it didn’t take me very long to find TGL complaining about right wing chuds." |
do you have an issue with my complaint? 6/5/2024 4:51:27 PM
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rjrumfel All American 22969 Posts user info edit post |
Just pointing out how you bring everything around to politics is all. 6/7/2024 12:47:51 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
they’re the ones who have decided to bring their dipshittery into this 6/7/2024 9:47:56 AM
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rjrumfel All American 22969 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like we need a new thread for the WNBA…”Why Women’s Basketball is the worst sport…” doesn’t track these days. 6/10/2024 11:22:03 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39123 Posts user info edit post |
the bigots over at Outkick are clearly trying to cultivate a relationship with Caitlin Clark and champion her for all of the worst reasons
unless she’s a fan, she needs to nip it in the bud, because it’s only gonna get worse 6/11/2024 1:47:36 PM
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