TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
This guy should have gone before Deval
I wouldn't want to go after him
hey white guy...some folks didn't come here on their will 9/4/2012 10:05:51 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
I just read that Wayne Knight was there with the Leguizamo people lol 9/4/2012 10:11:33 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Good job by Julian Castro.
Liked Rubio a bit more though. 9/4/2012 10:28:57 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
that was a damn fine speech
I'm pretty fired up 9/4/2012 10:29:48 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
I mean this is a great way to start the convention 9/4/2012 10:32:32 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i'm physically attracted to Michelle 9/4/2012 10:32:59 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
whatchu think of Elaine? 9/4/2012 10:36:23 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Who did you guys think sucked of the speakers? 9/4/2012 10:44:43 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53062 Posts user info edit post |
the ones that were Democrats 9/4/2012 10:45:24 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
The dude from Maryland...and he wasn't awful. That's how good everyone has been so far.
Michelle looks so good tonight 9/4/2012 10:46:40 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
she so damn fine 9/4/2012 10:47:41 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
O'Malley was awful. Strickland was blah. Obama's half sister and brother-in-law were filler.
V she's the first lady. What do you expect? What did Ann Romney do any different?
[Edited on September 4, 2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason : x] 9/4/2012 10:48:12 PM |
Eaton Bush All American 2342 Posts user info edit post |
Looks matter, cuz what she is saying is all vague BS. 9/4/2012 10:48:49 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
I don't count the filler
you right on the bro and sis 9/4/2012 10:49:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM. Reason : ncstatetke ]
9/4/2012 10:50:13 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Craig is 1-6 against Herb
the more you know 9/4/2012 10:52:47 PM |
Eaton Bush All American 2342 Posts user info edit post |
^^ dude can't throw and can't name who is on the team. 9/4/2012 10:54:10 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
vote for obama because you like him as a husband? not convincing 9/4/2012 10:59:21 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
lol that's the wife's job at the convention
did you not listen to Ann Romney's speech? 9/4/2012 11:00:00 PM |
oneshot 1183 Posts user info edit post |
Lean Foward 9/4/2012 11:00:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM. Reason : derp]
9/4/2012 11:01:16 PM |
Eaton Bush All American 2342 Posts user info edit post |
Man, she is the most biased speaker ever. Of course she thinks her husband is the greatest man on Earth. Of course she wants her husband to keep his cushy job in the WHITE House so she can keep eating that good White House kitchen cookin'.
Michelle's speech is just more filler. Too bad her husband is why Americans are still having a hard time making ends meet. 9/4/2012 11:01:51 PM |
Eaton Bush All American 2342 Posts user info edit post |
Fine line between that and bending over.9/4/2012 11:03:21 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
did Ann Romney even give a speech? Michelle's speech dominated so hard 9/4/2012 11:05:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
i've been watching off and on on CNN, i like how they have had (as far as commentators) a mix of dems and repubs to suck off the speeches as well as critique them fairly
cant imagine watching on either Fox News or MSNBC and seeing the total slurping or total criticism sides 9/4/2012 11:08:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
That was as good a night of speeches as anything the Republicans did.
Doesn't really matter though. The economic indicators the next two months will tip the election one way or another. If it was today, Obama wins but a lot can change and the stock market historically will slide a bit after Labor Day. 9/4/2012 11:12:54 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
Fox News is giving her props...shit they're giving the whole night props 9/4/2012 11:16:41 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
9/4/2012 11:18:19 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " @EHolmesWSJ: Confirmed via designer: Michelle Obama wearing a custom Tracy Reese dress.” 1 percent " |
9/4/2012 11:18:43 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
is there a link to these speeches. 9/4/2012 11:22:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
lol DB19 watches Fox News 9/4/2012 11:23:40 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That was as good a night of speeches as anything the Republicans did.
Doesn't really matter though. The economic indicators the next two months will tip the election one way or another. If it was today, Obama wins but a lot can change and the stock market historically will slide a bit after Labor Day.
9/4/2012 11:12:54 PM" |
What? Did you just use the stock market's fluctuation as an indicator of economic health? The only thing that's going to prevent an Obama re-election at this point is another financial collapse or Isreal going to war with Iran.9/4/2012 11:26:56 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/04/dnc-2012-michelle-obamas-speech-at-the-democratic-national-convention-full-text/ 9/4/2012 11:27:54 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
if his bread and butter (young or minority or women) don't get off their lazy asses on Nov 6, Obama will lose 9/4/2012 11:28:07 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "lol DB19 watches Fox News" |
inorite
I like to see what they have to say after stuff like this9/4/2012 11:28:45 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if his bread and butter (young or minority or women) don't get off their lazy asses on Nov 6, Obama will lose" |
Which happens to be the majority of America.9/4/2012 11:30:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
its not a damn "hall" Wolf Blitzer, its Time Warner Cable Arena 9/4/2012 11:30:19 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Unless we have another big market crash, economic indicators won't matter.
Romney is so unliked, he doesn't stand a chance. Republicans are not going to turn out for some guy they tepidly like, no matter how much they hate Obama. If Obama mobilizes his base, he wins because Romney is certainly not mobilizing republicans. This is in stark contrast to how people were really excited about George W Bush.
Meanwhile, Obama has the huge incumbent advantage. Are people going to switch to Romney because he is 5% better? 10% better? Hell no. You have to be significantly better to make the turnover overhead worth it. 9/4/2012 11:35:57 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
It probably doesn't help that the Republican base is primarily angry, poor, southern white men. 9/4/2012 11:39:10 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52838 Posts user info edit post |
I know a lot of smart people with a lot of well-funded research work on this stuff, but I just have a hard time believing that "energizing the base' is really ever as important as picking up the independent, "swing vote". 9/4/2012 11:40:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
Obama's only pulled away since the GOP convention.
They just have to not-screw up. 9/4/2012 11:42:27 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know a lot of smart people with a lot of well-funded research work on this stuff, but I just have a hard time believing that "energizing the base' is really ever as important as picking up the independent, "swing vote"." |
Are you joking or do you seriously not understand how enthusiastic people aren't more convincing then unenthusiastic people.9/4/2012 11:44:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know a lot of smart people with a lot of well-funded research work on this stuff, but I just have a hard time believing that "energizing the base' is really ever as important as picking up the independent, "swing vote"." |
exactly
there is a reason the vast majority of both candidates' hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign finances are going towards a handful of swing states]9/4/2012 11:46:33 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
Not being a smart ass...but Duke, were you around in 2008?
I don't remember if you were deployed, but the energy behind the Obama ticket was insane 9/4/2012 11:47:02 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " exactly
there is a reason the vast majority of both candidates' hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign finances are going towards a handful of swing states" |
Look fellas, I know team Red is looking pretty rough at the moment but stop trying to rephrase how campaigns are fought. If boots on the ground didn't matter then there wouldn't have been a huge and wasted effort by GOP legislators to limit voter registration.9/4/2012 11:49:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
states like Alabama are gonna go to Romney, period
states like New Hampshire are gonna go to Obama, period
therefore, neither candidate is gonna make any type of effort, monetarily, or "through enthusiasm and energy" to change those
they're going after the swing states, plain and simple, period. States like North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, etc
thats not partisan, thats how presidential campaigns have worked in our lifetimes 9/4/2012 11:51:10 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
omg my fran is going all black panther like on facebook with his talks of the independent party
I wonder if he's geniusboy 9/4/2012 11:54:54 PM |
Eaton Bush All American 2342 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't matter how much Romney is liked. What matters is how much Obama is disliked. 9/4/2012 11:57:46 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
A marginal voter (swing voter) is going to poll all his friends and see that 30% say they like obama, 30% say they hate obama, and 5% say they like Romney. With this breakdown, this guy's going to hear more coherent pro-obama messages than pro-romney messages from people he actually knows. Consequently, he's not going to get off the couch for romney. This may be embarrassing, but that's how this election is getting decided. 9/4/2012 11:58:41 PM |