tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
thats the bad thing about overrecruiting. you end up with a team full of entitled brats who are shocked to discover they are not as good as the alabama players. now, they have nothing to play for and are counting down to the draft. 10/28/2017 2:51:46 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Remember when Jim McElwain and Butch Jones were the toast of the SEC? 10/30/2017 11:23:34 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly, when was that...? I know UF won a couple division titles. But Butch Jones has been on a perpetual hot seat it seems. McElwain may have had hype after his first year but I really don't recall a time either coach was considered the toast of SEC - unless it was just off-season hype after they were hired. 10/30/2017 12:34:48 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
2015. 10/30/2017 1:20:41 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like something a little more significant happened to another SEC school that year. 10/30/2017 1:24:44 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. Georgia fired their coach. 10/30/2017 3:02:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/21/week/10/year/2017/seasontype/2 10/31/2017 9:14:00 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
justice served to wisconsin.
state would've been 6 right behind osu. 10/31/2017 9:22:23 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I can't recall there ever being a better slate of games in a week. 7 top 25 matchups. The entire top 15 is in action with a chance of losing. Trap games for all the major favorites. Anything can happen.
I'm parlaying South Carolina +23 and LSU +22. Gonna be fun. 11/2/2017 3:29:56 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
it sucks because i think we could have beaten these coastal teams quite easily. 11/4/2017 10:17:25 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm parlaying South Carolina +23 and LSU +22. Gonna be fun." |
EARLY11/4/2017 11:53:44 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
This feels so strange. I haven't been an FSU fan since the Oregon game. 11/11/2017 3:55:16 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Blackman getting injured is our only hope 11/11/2017 3:55:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Man I thought Blackman looked good early vs us then he started to take a beating and got progressively worse. But was our secondary making him look good or has his confidence been shaken? He looks way worse than he did in the first half vs us 11/11/2017 3:58:05 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Let the Clemsonning begin! 11/11/2017 4:26:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
FSU is terrible
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[Edited on November 11, 2017 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ] 11/11/2017 4:45:54 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
They are clemsonning but FSU is just so bad it doesn't matter. 11/11/2017 4:48:55 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Its almost like FSU is giving us the finger. 11/11/2017 5:31:10 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
so two weeks in a row they pick up a flag for an obvious late hit by clemson in the 4th quarter...in front of dabo 11/11/2017 6:11:13 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
so fsu has dropped 2 wide open touchdowns 11/11/2017 6:13:39 PM |
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Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
lol FSU gives me hope then shuts it down 1 play later 11/11/2017 6:37:35 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
this is such a sack of shit. clemsons secondary is awful and we pussyfooted around in the wildcat and then fsu can't even pitch and catch. 11/11/2017 6:41:16 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
ND still undefeated on NBC 11/11/2017 9:45:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson gonna be #1 in the polls 11/11/2017 9:49:35 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
should be miami if bama loses
My guess is
1. Alabama 2. Miami 3. Clemson 4. Oklahoma
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Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
good to see Notre Dame used all their tokens against us 11/11/2017 10:14:27 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Dan Mullen just finished reading Dave Doeren's bestseller "Playing to Lose" 11/11/2017 10:17:10 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
ghost written by Drinkwitz 11/11/2017 10:20:07 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Shocking that this team almost lost to UMASS last week. 11/11/2017 10:24:30 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama had 4 lbs out today and only had eight 5-star recruits suited up on defense today. 11/11/2017 10:30:58 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Georgia 9-1 Fired Georgia Coach 9-0
Must be nice.
Butch Jones probably fired midflight.
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27825 Posts user info edit post |
I hope the turnover chain wins the national championship 11/11/2017 11:18:37 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Manny Diaz joins the long list of State coordinators doing great things at Not State. 11/11/2017 11:19:35 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
I will now be pulling for the thUg down the stretch. Fuckkk Clemson, SC. 11/12/2017 12:05:23 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
A couple of weeks ago people were talking about 2 SEC and 2 B1G teams being in the CFP together. Would be amazing if no one from either conference made it in, but 2 from the ACC did. 11/12/2017 1:36:18 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
^thats also why it's always premature and silly when people start looking at the extremes in week 8 and saying that there's gonna be 8 deserving teams and so many teams getting snubbed. It's usually gonna work it itself out and there won't be 8 one loss teams that all deserve to get in. But I guess the speculation of "what if all these teams win out!!?" is always fun 11/12/2017 6:21:18 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
We're just gonna pretend the Clemson Syracuse game never happened. 11/14/2017 9:48:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
ACC! ACC! ACC!
^it's almost as if they factored in their star QB not playing most of the Syracuse game 11/14/2017 9:58:24 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Then I want State ranked like a 2 loss team because of Hines. 11/14/2017 10:01:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
We're ranked higher than 2-loss teams like Michigan 11/14/2017 10:11:45 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
fair enough 11/14/2017 10:14:08 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We're just gonna pretend the Clemson Syracuse game never happened." |
I don't worry about it too much. This is like saying Duke would be the #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament, if it started today. They are trying their hardest to make a big deal out of nothing. If Wisconsin goes undefeated they are in, the ACC champion is in, Alabama is in, and probably Oklahoma. If that was the top 4 every week though there would be no change on selection Sunday and no drama, not that there is much anyway. It's going to be pretty tough to get 2 teams from the same conference in a playoff until it expands to 8+ teams.11/15/2017 8:30:11 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27825 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama still has to win the SEC to be in. Their SOS is bad. Not Wisconsin bad, but bad. They wouldn't get in if they lost to a 1 loss Georgia in the title game.
And they still have to beat Auburn. 11/15/2017 8:45:58 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
^^you're not necessarily wrong...but they have to try to base the rankings off current resumes not projected future resumes. so right now you kinda have to have 2 ACC teams in the top 4. you can certainly debate why Clemson is ahead of Miami, but based off current resumes this is probably the right top 4. yeah, this is clearly for ratings (why else make a show out of it?) and to drum up hype around the CFP. no different than when the BCS rankings would come out and people would get upset except now there's a weekly show about it. i guess they could just keep it a secret (like the NCAA basketball tourney) until the season is over.
Quote : | "If Wisconsin goes undefeated they are in, the ACC champion is in, Alabama is in, and probably Oklahoma." |
a lotta ifs to this since Bama's still got Auburn and UGa. but basically a one loss or undefeated P5 conference champion will virtually always get in. but there's a scenario where 2 loss Auburn gets in if they win the conference. and depending on how the B1G shakes out, they may not get any team in. opening the door for, theoretically, a 1 loss Miami ACC runner-up and a 1 loss ACC Champ Clemson to both get in. obviously this stuff will sort itself out in the coming weeks so all the speculation and what-ifs are just for fun.
Quote : | " If that was the top 4 every week though there would be no change on selection Sunday and no drama" |
yeah but they can't put out a top 4 every week of what they think might happen, they gotta base it off this particular point in the season.
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Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^you're not necessarily wrong...but they have to try to base the rankings off current resumes not projected future resumes. so right now you kinda have to have 2 ACC teams in the top 4. you can certainly debate why Clemson is ahead of Miami, but based off current resumes this is probably the right top 4. yeah, this is clearly for ratings (why else make a show out of it?) and to drum up hype around the CFP. no different than when the BCS rankings would come out and people would get upset except now there's a weekly show about it. i guess they could just keep it a secret (like the NCAA basketball tourney) until the season is over. " |
A more realistic ranking at least for this week would be...
Alabama Miami Wisconsin Oklahoma Clemson Georgia
but that doesn't make selection Sunday fun, if everyone holds check in the top 4 and wins their league with 1, or less losses overall. The committee won't pass over an undefeated P5 conference champion this season.
Now if undefeated Alabama loses to Georgia in the SEC title game and Oklahoma loses another game then you may see, Miami, Alabama, Georgia, and Wisconsin in whatever random order.11/15/2017 3:39:46 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27825 Posts user info edit post |
Except that's not realistic, because Alabama and Wisconsin haven't played nearly as tough of schedules as Miami, Clemson and Oklahoma. That's why Alabama wasn't #1 until this week and why undefeated Wisconsin won't crack the top 4 without help. 11/15/2017 4:01:06 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^It actually is because they are the best teams in their leagues this week. They aren't taking 2 teams from the same league unless a lot of things happen that haven't happened yet. If everyone holds check the bracket will look something like this...
Alabama/Georgia winner Miami/Clemson winner Wisconsin Oklahoma 11/15/2017 4:24:04 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The committee won't pass over an undefeated P5 conference champion this season. " |
or any season ever. but you can't just automatically put them in the top 4 before they've actually accomplished that.
Quote : | "If everyone holds check the bracket will look something like this...
Alabama/Georgia winner Miami/Clemson winner Wisconsin Oklahoma" |
you have to add Auburn to that list.11/15/2017 5:10:33 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^Like I said, it is all silly because the ranking aren't anything like the bracket. 99% of the time they will take the four best P5 conference champions. 11/15/2017 5:56:07 PM |