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Grandmaster
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my TF war. got locked.

6/10/2007 4:29:51 PM

God
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locked?

6/10/2007 4:30:17 PM

Novicane
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all ace2 mainly.

6/10/2007 5:55:46 PM

SandSanta
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Brian

When are you going to play again?

Like it was cute for a week, but srsly. Need more congeal.

6/11/2007 1:52:29 AM

MiGZ
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hey what server are you kids playin on? I took a 3 month hiatus, came back and my guild was all but dissolved.... time for a transfer I think

6/11/2007 8:04:17 PM

Doss2k
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fu k gnomes i hpe they all die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6/11/2007 8:11:45 PM

MunkeyMuck
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^^ destromath, horde

6/11/2007 9:33:51 PM

SandSanta
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What is your class?

Wrong answers include:

Rogue
Hunter

6/11/2007 11:42:36 PM

ssclark
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it acctually surprises me that guild still have too many hunters.

6/12/2007 12:31:34 AM

smoothcrim
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my guild has 1 hunter and 1 rogue, I'm the rogue.

first kill.

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 12:34 AM. Reason : I died off a cleave after that stupid rock shit from the floor. The randomness of that is retarded]

6/12/2007 12:33:40 AM

God
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^shaman gear

6/12/2007 1:36:09 AM

ssclark
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tell malou he should shoot himself for not having animal handler or full mortal shots

but taking spirit bond and thick hide instead ..

6/12/2007 2:10:12 AM

smoothcrim
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malou is a girl and swore up and down how bad BM was and made a guildie (arena partner) go from BM to MM. a month later, guess who's BM. she's also gm

6/12/2007 2:15:14 AM

ssclark
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naturally i assumed she was a he either way she's still a goofball for fucking up her spec.


bm's been amazing for a few months, the patch that introduced avoidance and the mend pet hot cemented it tho

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 2:21 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2007 2:21:13 AM

DamnStraight
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finally got hydross
and my wildfury dropped off murlocs within an hr later

6/12/2007 2:48:05 AM

SandSanta
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your gm is a girl

Problem #1

6/12/2007 3:43:19 AM

MunkeyMuck
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well... I mean...

6/12/2007 4:37:48 AM

Grandmaster
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"Brian

When are you going to play again?

Like it was cute for a week, but srsly. Need more congeal.

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lol, i should be around tonight/this week

6/12/2007 7:53:47 AM

smoothcrim
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correction, one of my gm's is a girl. she's more a mascot than anything else though

6/12/2007 8:37:52 AM

Raige
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Smooth, in your SS above, what mod lets you see what the crit rating/agility actually translate into?

Could you post a list of all of your mods. I know I have several. Thanks!

6/12/2007 9:37:18 AM

Grandmaster
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it's probably Ratings Buster

and maybe DrDamage for the stats summary at the bottom of the frame.

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ,]

6/12/2007 10:43:17 AM

SandSanta
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Girls can't play wow.

-porcha

6/12/2007 10:43:28 AM

CalledToArms
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yea ive hardly played with any that were any good but there have been 2 very good pvp priests i've played with that are females. One of them recently started playing with us on my server and shes one of the better priests ive PVPd with period.

but in general, yea

6/12/2007 12:27:03 PM

Nashattack
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In my current guild, the two GMs are girls and half the guild are girls. Needless to say, I NEVER get on vent (unless someone is running me thru an instance -- which hardly ever happens)

6/12/2007 12:51:57 PM

SandSanta
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Its funny how you quit a guild with people that new the game inside out, to go to a guild filled with n00bs, and they STILL don't run you through stuff.

You must be competing with Guardian Azaka for the title 'unluckiest wow player ever'

6/12/2007 12:57:16 PM

smoothcrim
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I'm using ratingbuster for the stats
the visible mods are
titanbar/titanpanel whatever they call it these days
elkanos buffbar
the old school dps calculator (a lot like recap), it's the red/green thing under the map
ctra for the target boxes
banana bar to put the target icons on the ctra boxes
swstats for the dps meter
autobar for the bar that auto adjusts when I have different poisons and consumables in my inventory
clearfont2 so the game doesnt hurt my eyes
pitbull unit frames

6/12/2007 12:57:18 PM

Nashattack
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^^ well, how about I come back to RaidHat and you guys gimme a lil help now that I'm higher (I'm close to dinging 49 now)

6/12/2007 1:48:35 PM

God
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Why don't you just run quests up to 70? You don't need to run an instance at all.

6/12/2007 1:51:34 PM

Nashattack
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doing the same ole same ole gets boring... also need armor and stuff

you know this

6/12/2007 1:56:31 PM

SkankinMonky
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maybe he wants to enjoy the content that will quickly run out when he hits 70?

6/12/2007 2:01:10 PM

SandSanta
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Like I feel bad for you man. Your wow experience has been sour grapes somewhat.

But on the other hand, my main raiding priest leveled a druid from 0-63 in the time it took you to get to 49 and he had started when you were level 30.

Maybe you should stop doing 'your thing' and do what we've been telling you to do from the beginning and you'll get through the tedium of being low level a LOT faster.

6/12/2007 2:57:16 PM

Doss2k
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So how you guys lookin on rogues, mages and shaman?

6/12/2007 4:42:35 PM

Nashattack
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^^I am following that guide that you told me to do.. I work a fulltime job and have a wife/son so I can't play all the time like you guys. I seriously quest like 6 hours a week. I'm on all the time at work, but I cant do anything serious because I leave my desk frequently (hence why my fishing is 225 and cooking is 308).

oh.. and that guide you sent me seems a bit weird...everywhere i go, there's always lower level people there doing the same quests.. i think that one is a bit out-dated.. its my first char so i dont know the game as well as you guys.. i'm sure you all didn't get to level 50 in the first 6 days of gametime when you started

[Edited on June 12, 2007 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2007 4:45:26 PM

SandSanta
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There's actually something else I'd like you to look at. Its an ingame guide that shows all quest locations on your minimap and world map and which order to do them in here:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2358371&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

I'll make another posts that contains the body.

6/12/2007 5:10:26 PM

SandSanta
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"
First off, you need to delete anything you currently have regarding MetaMap. All your folders in your addons folder, all your Saved Variables files.

Next, you need to download THIS version of metamap: http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceSt...etamapMario.zip which has a single file edited by our own Mario to fix some bugs regarding this guide.

After that, you need to download this file: http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceSt.../MetaMapEXP.lua You will need to right-click save-as that link, otherwise it fucks up. I don't know why.

Take that file. Put it in your World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons\MetaMapCVT folder

Log into WoW
Open your Map.
Click the "Options" button.
Click General Options/Help
Click the Modules tab
Check all those boxes(You probably don't have to, I just know sometimes one of these boxes fixes it and I don't know which)
Click on the Database tab.
Click on Import Modules
Click on "Import" under User Files.
Click on "Usernotes"

After that, your maps for almost every zone should be populated by dots and lines, detailing you on what to do. If they don't, repeat all of that. If they still don't, go to Options and click on "Show All" next to usernotes. If they still don't, turn off any mods that affect your map(like Cartographer) and see if it shows up. If they still don't, http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceSt...ads/MetaMap.rar is my metamap as it is currently installed on my computer, so I know for certain that works. To install it you need to do the following.

Delete everything regarding metamap(again) and put all the folders+files in them into your Interface\Addons\ folder.

Put all the single files(ones that aren't in folders) that are present when you first open the .rar into your WTF\Account\AccountName\SavedVariables\ folder.

If for some reason you're STILL having problems, log into your game and go down your addons list and one-by-one disable them and see which one is fucking up your game. I've done a clean, no-addon check on my end and it works perfectly fine without any enabled(and with all of them), so if something is wrong after going through all that work, another mod is fucking with your install and there's nothing I(or anyone else, really) can do about that.


New stuff: This covers (currently) 1-58 and 60-70. Now, i'm not EXACTLY sure what levels each circuit will cover. I'm not going to mark down what level i'm at during each circuit, because you'll probably level at a different rate because you'll grind more or less. That said, here's a rough idea of what level you should be.


Level: Zone(Circuits)
12-15: The Barrens (Circuits 1-2)
15-16: Stonetalon Mountains (Circuit 1)
16-20: The Barrens (Circuits 3-4)
20-21: STonetalon Mountains (Circuit 2)
21-22: Ashenvale (Circuit 1)
22-23: The Barrens (Circuit 5)
23-25: Stonetalon Mountain (Circuit 3-4)
25: The Barrens (Circuit 6)
25-26: Thousand Needles (Circuit 1)
26-27: Ashenvale (Circuits 2-3)
27-29: Thouand Needles (Circuits 2-3)
29-30?: Hillsbrad Foothills (Circuit 1)
30: Arathi Highalands (Circuit 1)
30-31: Stranglethorn Vale (Circuit 1)
31-32: Thousand Needles (Circuit 4)
32-34: Desolace (Circuits 1-3)
34: Dustwallow Marsh (Circuit 1)(Not even really a circuit)
34-36: Stranglethorn Vale (Circuits 2-3)
36-37: Arathi Highlands (Circuits 2-3)
37: Alterac Mountains (Circuit 1)
37: Thousand Needles (Circuit 5)
37-38: Dustwallow Marsh (Circuits 2-3)
38-40: Stranglethorn Vale (Circuit 4)
40-41: Badlands (Circuit 1)
41-42: Swamp of Sorrows (Circuits 1-2)
42-43: Stranglethorn Vale(Circuit 5) DOES IT EVER END?!
43: Dustwallow Marsh (Circuit 4)
43-44: Tanaris (Circuit 1)
44-46: Feralas (Circuits 1-3)
46: Azshara (Circuit 1)
46-47: The Hinterlands (Circuit 1)
47: Stranglethorn Vale (Circuit 6)
47-48: Searing Gorge (Circuits 1-2)
48: Swamp of Sorrows (Circuit 3)
48-49: Feralas (Circuit 4)
49-50: Tanaris (Circuit 2)
50: Azshara. (Circuit 2)
50: The Hinterlands (Circuit 2)
50-51: The Blasted Lands (Doesn't follow the Circuit system)
51-52: Un Goro Crater (Circuits 1-2)
52-53: Burning Steppes(Circuit 1)
53: Azshara (Circuit 3)
53: Felwood (Circuit 1)
53-54: Winterspring (Circuits 1-3)
54-55: Felwood (Circuits 2-3)
55: Silithus (Circuits 1-2)
55-56: Western Plaguelands (Circuit 1)
56-57: Eastern Plaguelands (Circuits 1-2)
57-58: Western Plaguelands (circuits 2-3)

"

6/12/2007 5:11:22 PM

SandSanta
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"AZEROTH ENDS HERE. Abandon everything in your quest log, delete your old crap from your bags and head to Outland. If you don't have The Burning Crusade expansion stop being a douchebag and go buy it.

58-??: Hellfire Peninsula (Circuit 1)(Not complete, but it's in the guide because I fucked up when seperating the notes between the Release version and my version and I don't feel like fixing it)

This also covers Mulgore, the tauren starting area. Because i'm doing this as a tauren. I'm not gonna list it there, because there's 5 races and they all start in different places. You CAN go and start circuit 1 in the barrens the second you hit level 12.

QUESTIONS!

"Is this a speed guide?"
The outlands section, section 60-70 isn't. The rest? Yes, it is. It's about as fast as I can get it, tuned by me personally. It's very similar to Joana's guide, but it's edited in places where he made very obvious efficiency mistakes. And there are a lot of them. After playing through using his guide a few times I honestly don't see how nobody has dethroned him.(In fact, he just edited a small part of his guide that trimmed seven hours off of it. SEVEN. HOURS.)

"What do I do if I can't do a quest?"
See, this is problematic for the outland section. I'm a demonology warlock. I'll be honest and say there's very little I cannot kill. I honestly don't know which of these quests certain classes can or can't solo. With the exception of two Wanted Poster quests that are hard as fuck, everything should be relatively easy. Failing that, get a partner. Failing that, grind out about 20 thousand XP and you'll make up for lost experience. That number does not account for future quests in that chain. For the 1-60 section? If you can't do it I dunno.

"Ugggggggh this quest is fucking stupid do I really have to do it?"
See above. If you don't want to do a quest, look it up on thott to see if it's a chain. Grind experience accordingly.

"What's with all the typos?"
What are you, the fucking typo police?

"How do I get rid of all that information on the right hand side of my map?"
Right-click the question mark at the top of your map next to the options button. Be a little more explorative guys, click the buttons metamap comes with and try shit out. Maybe you can come up with something helpful for yourself! Worst case scenario you have to spend 3 minutes re-downloading and installing the addon and 15 seconds re-importing my notes.

"Actually, I like that side list of notes! It's cool, like an at-a-glance step by step thing!"
NO NO NO. I didn't even know that thing existed until I was halfway through terokkar forest. It is horribly out of order and from what I can gather there is no way to put it in order after the dots are made. The list either sorts alphabetically(useless) or by when dots were added. After i'm done with a circuit I go back and delete dots, add new ones and all kinds of shit for all the circuits up until that point in an attempt to optimize the circuits. That puts that sorted list all fucked up, don't use it. Really, don't.

"Are you twinked? Do you have the best gear possible and enchants for your 1-60 guide?"
Not at all. The only thing I did was mail my character a bunch of 16 slot bags and a pair of level 5 white shoes enchanted with running speed. I will not be buying any gear on my way to 70, the only gear i'll use is what I got from quests or drops. For outland? I was decked out in epix.

"What professions did you pick?"
Since I decided to not buy any gear ever, I picked up Herbalism and Alchemy. Strength, armor and nice healing potions are a godsend when your gear is crap.

"Are you a hunter? Are you a warlock? Are you some ultra class that my mage cannot possibly compete with?"
I'm a Tauren Druid. And I am the worst druid ever. I've spent more time corpse running on this character than I have spent on all my other characters combined, I say that with no exaggeration. All classes(With maybe the exception of Prot warriors) and specs should be able to follow this guide with no problem.

"I keep seeing "If you're not level 31 grind to it". I've been level 31 for two bars and I haven't even turned in quests yet, how could you possibly be so far behind? Am I grinding too much?"
For the 1-60 section, I never log out in an inn. I sometimes go days at a time without playing and so I generate way too much rested experience. For someone that plays every day, they wouldn't have as much rested XP as me and so i'd be ahead of them even though tehy did everything correctly. So, I opted to just go without rested any experience at all. The "If you're not 31, grind to it" reflects where I was level 31(and some bars in, maybe) in my notes from previous 1-60 runs, but didn't make it there on my druid with no rested experience.

"I have Cartographer, and it conflicts with Metamap, so I disable cartographer and I either A) Get errors out the ass B) Lose functionality for Mods or C) Metamap refuses to work"
Thanks to Tapeta, we now know that installing !!!!StandAloneLibraries from http://www.wowace.com/files is what you need to do to fix all that shit. As far as I can tell, it fixes all three issues. Rejoice!!

:siren:NOW THE IMPORTANT PART:siren:
The maps and circuits are nigh-unreadable if you turn on all circuits. Go to Options >> Notes Filter and turn off all of the notes aside from the circuit you are currently on. Circuit numbers are from top-to-bottom in the notes filter. Yellow square = Circuit 1, Red Square = Circuit 2, and so on.

I'll be happy to answer any questions you have unless they're covered in this post in which case I will either ignore you or mock you depending on my mood."



- From Somethingawful.com

6/12/2007 5:11:47 PM

tracer
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could you redo the links to those files it says to download so they dont have the ...'s in there? i'd like to try this thing out with my alt, cause i'm the slowest leveler ever.

6/12/2007 5:23:05 PM

SandSanta
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Links in order:

http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceStuff/quickuploads/metamapMario.zip

http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceStuff/quickuploads/MetaMapEXP.lua

http://www.ageofrebirth.com/VinceStuff/quickuploads/MetaMap.rar

6/12/2007 5:32:22 PM

ssclark
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that guide is awesome by the way. use joana's and that , both top notch.

6/12/2007 5:35:49 PM

Nashattack
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will do when i get home.. thx

6/12/2007 6:08:30 PM

Shaggy
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BLIZZCON HERE WE COME

6/13/2007 11:58:25 AM

philihp
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"two months later he's gonna make an e/n post about how his girlfriend dumped him for the guild leader or main tank, after they arranged a meeting and fucked each other's brains out"


this happened in my guild.

[Edited on June 13, 2007 at 1:10 PM. Reason : PS, Vashj down. A'lar 17%.]

6/13/2007 1:10:34 PM

GraniteBalls
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I'll try this metamap thing tonight.


I've been pretty much straight grinding from 36-43


maybe this will make things go quicker.

6/13/2007 1:26:08 PM

Nashattack
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who wants to take me under their wing?

6/13/2007 1:33:31 PM

GraniteBalls
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I'm on Executus.

Alliance

6/13/2007 1:55:12 PM

Kainen
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http://karacry.ytmnd.com/

6/13/2007 3:17:56 PM

Lumex
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"not to nit pick but there is probably 40 or so spells in this game that operate exactly the same way, not to mention every single engineering thrown item in the game"


Im talking about a 41-point talent spell, not some gimmick trinket any class can get. If you spend the points to get shadowfury, then you pretty much depend on it in pvp.

6/13/2007 4:06:46 PM

ssclark
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lol ?

6/13/2007 8:20:37 PM

Doss2k
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Wow that kid is in need of some serious help lol

6/13/2007 8:27:16 PM

SandSanta
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That shit was funny as hell.

6/13/2007 9:02:02 PM

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