simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "psh packpride is a run by bunch'a drama queens. He'll be fine." |
as far as i can tell, those tweets are strictly facts.]6/24/2012 3:14:21 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck 6/24/2012 3:39:10 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck 6/24/2012 3:39:10 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Exploratory surgery is a scary term
Don't what's going on so let's just chop that motherfucker up" |
A lot of times they'll refer to an arthroscopy as exploratory if they aren't certain there's a tear, it doesn't show up on an MRI for whatever reason, but they show all the signs of having a torn meniscus (for example). So, they'll do the surgery, see if there's a tear, and repair it while they're in there. I'm hoping it's that kind of situation.6/24/2012 4:36:00 PM |
qwery2 Veteran 261 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck 6/24/2012 5:58:06 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
look on the bright side: everyone here knew this was going to happen; at least it happened w/ plenty of time to recover.
also, i take partial responsibility for changing my status to something about lorenzo brown. i was begging for it, really.
[Edited on June 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM. Reason : ] 6/24/2012 6:08:28 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
on or offseason, NC State Shit never takes a day off 6/24/2012 6:10:23 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it took a while off when our first year coach took a team that went 15-16 the previous year to the sweet sixteen.
don't you think? 6/24/2012 6:17:43 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure players on other teams have injuries too.
If injuries are going to occur, better now than during or closer to the season, hopefully it's our only one.
Lewis will have to step-up in practice, and this may result in him being better prepared to back-up zo during the season. 6/24/2012 6:25:16 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Did Vandy official get a redshirt year or when does the decision about that take place? 6/24/2012 6:38:45 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't realize that was ever in question. 6/24/2012 6:45:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^yes he did, he'll be a rs jr 6/24/2012 7:05:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
gott just posted a pic of Zo standing on the sidelines of his camp w/out a knee brace, and i saw hardly any pixels
#hoax? 6/24/2012 8:00:17 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Well, surgery isn't until Tuesday. So, he probably doesn't need a brace until after... 6/24/2012 8:16:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
The entire team is listed as questionable
6/24/2012 8:55:46 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
6/24/2012 9:43:03 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
they posted a pic of Scott Wood now, and his shooting hand is COVERED in pixels
#panic? 6/24/2012 10:05:54 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Dream season turning into a nightmare 6/25/2012 8:25:50 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "on or offseason, NC State Shit never takes a day off" |
quote of the damn year6/25/2012 9:08:55 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I'm surpised some of you "fans" aren't tougher.
(ps, there's no such thing as nc state shit) 6/25/2012 9:16:48 AM |
StateCole All American 3597 Posts user info edit post |
btw, Andre Dawkins confirmed he will be redshirting this year 6/25/2012 10:27:19 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^message_topic.aspx?topic=626725 6/25/2012 10:33:21 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
^^why is that relevant in an NC State Basketball thread?
[Edited on June 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .] 6/25/2012 11:21:42 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^yes he did, he'll be a rs jr" |
Are we still wasting a scholarship on him?6/25/2012 2:59:30 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Right, because we have all the big men we need right now and next year 6/25/2012 3:04:07 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
I think Vandy will surprise some people this year
Mark it 6/25/2012 4:33:03 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
You heard it here, first. Vandy will surprise.
Oh goddamnit. 6/25/2012 4:33:52 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
It won't surprise me message_topic.aspx?topic=590384&page=4
Quote : | "TBDV running shit today. 6-6 from the field his last 2 games, all dunks" |
Quote : | "you couldn't have asked anything more from him last night, he was key to several plays and gave it his all." |
Quote : | "He looked damned athletic on that alley." |
Quote : | "Everyone knew he was going to be a project, but he's coming along nicely at the end of the season, especially with his footwork. .. If nothing else, that motherfucker leaves it on the floor everytime he's out there." |
message_topic.aspx?topic=590384&page=46/25/2012 4:40:08 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
think Vandy will fit in pretty well at the 2. Seems to be the right position for him.
6/25/2012 9:04:43 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it's certainly possible that TBDV has a good season... but to my knowledge we haven't seen anything out of him that indicates that he will.
he did dunk the ball like six times last season though. 6/25/2012 9:07:14 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
He even alley-ooped it, quite dandily, to be exact. 6/26/2012 12:53:28 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I was being sarcastic. For the record. 6/26/2012 12:58:00 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Vandenburg could be productive the next two years. He's never going to be All-ACC obviously, but he's already shown he can dunk and block/contest shots.
The main thing he needs to prove is that he can rebound/defend and limit his turnovers/fouls.
I think the #1 thing he needs to improve is his agility along with athleticisim and strength. If he was a little more mobile he could be a good rebounder as 7'1 is huge in today's college game. His range as a rebounder was very limited because he simply didn't move well enough.
He had some productive minutes at the end of his sophomore year and it's certainly possible he's improved quite a bit since then. He's definitely a wild card, and if he makes the leap to a productive big man we'd be a scary team next season. His improvement will be especially critical though for his senior year (if he returns) as we're obviously going to be depleted on the front line after next year. 6/26/2012 2:31:01 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The main thing he needs to prove is that he can rebound/defend and limit his turnovers/fouls.
I think the #1 thing he needs to improve is his agility along with athleticisim and strength." |
Agree with first statement, not as much with the second.
If Vandy wants to make an impact on this team, it's going to be at the defensive end. We have a good collection of guys that can score so our season isn't going to ride on him get double digit ppg. What we need is someone who can contest shots, block out, and come down strong with rebound.
As for areas to improve, you can't really improve athleticism. You either are athletic or you aren't. This has been beaten to death, but if you saw him in the dunk contest at the Red & White game freshman year, you'd know he's pretty athletic for a guy his size. I think he's already decently agile for a big man. I can't recall him having trouble moving up and down the floor the way Howell did before he lost all that weight. His strength has come a ways since he first enrolled but I wouldn't expect any significant improvements.
You already touched on his biggest improvement area: limiting fouls. If he wants to be a key part of the rotation, he needs to provide quality minutes rest for Howell and Leslie. Too many times have we see him come in, pick up two quick fouls, then sit right back down. That won't cut it anymore. He's done well getting into the offense by setting picks and throwing down the occasional lob, but it'll be interesting to see how he and de Thaey fit into Gottfried's scheme this year.6/26/2012 4:38:40 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^so, what face said 6/26/2012 5:36:01 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I don't ever want to be on record as completely agreeing with face. That's a no-win situation. 6/26/2012 5:46:19 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
he can get up and down the floor fine, but he can't move laterally. That's a problem defensively and for rebounding.
The fact that's he's 7'1 and a poor rebounder should tell you something. His leg strength was terrible his freshman year, he had no base and no lift. His sophomore year it was much improved.
As for not being able to improve your athleticism, that's essentially what weightlifting, flexibility, etc are so that isn't true. You can run faster, jump higher, stretch farther. You peak at some point obviously, but look at CJ Leslie for example. He was obviously significantly more athletic this year as evidenced by the dunks he was throwing down in traffic last year. His freshman year he could barely get to the basket, let alone dunk in a game.
If you can't get more athletic, why do people even bother working out? 6/26/2012 6:45:15 AM |
lion4russell All American 1588 Posts user info edit post |
this dude is 7'1" and can do a between the legs dunk /talk about him not being athletic enough
also he is going to have a great year, his left hand hook looks amazing 6/26/2012 8:15:23 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
@WRALSportsFan: Update on Brown: expected to miss 2-4 weeks, not 4-6. 6/26/2012 5:27:21 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
fuck yes. 6/26/2012 5:31:39 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Joe Giglio ?@jpgiglio N.C. State guard Lorenzo Brown will need two to four weeks to rehab after knee surgery on Tuesday" |
Quote : | "Joe Giglio ?@jpgiglio Surgery was to repair meniscus in right knee; Pack avoids Triangle point-guard-injury curse" |
6/26/2012 5:35:23 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
6/26/2012 5:37:55 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, torn meniscus is easy to come back from. Should be ok for the overseas trip.
[Edited on June 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM. Reason : ] 6/26/2012 6:22:43 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
Hell yeah. I was really worried about going 0-for in september without his services.
UNDEFEATED SEPTEMBER HERE WE COME 6/26/2012 6:23:24 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit we are playing in September???? 6/26/2012 6:51:54 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
torn meniscus is definitely good news relative to what it could have been but it can still have some lingering effects like swelling, pain, and slight loss of agility.
My bigger concern would be if it effects him mentally or if it makes him think harder about going pro after this season.
It's definitely fortunate that we have Tyler Lewis and Rodney Purvis to ease some of the ballhandling responsibilities for Zobo this year. I'd be scared to go into the season with only one ballhandler who is coming off knee surgery. 6/26/2012 6:57:31 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Minor setback. Having injured my meniscus he should be full strength within 2 months. I was initially concerned this would be microfracture surgery. 6/26/2012 7:02:08 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
^^ It's not fucking Zobo. Or Lobo...or anything other retarted nick name YOU PEOPLE can come up with it.
His arms have tattoos that match up to "Zo". That's it...no more. 6/27/2012 11:28:57 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27843 Posts user info edit post |
but he has B O tattooed on his balls. 6/27/2012 11:30:19 AM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
How do you know that? 6/27/2012 11:51:12 AM |