yea...

i play either prot or ret paladin and shadow priest (no healing!), which don't exactly have much standing in arena

and they're both alliance, so battlegrounds are hopeless

so i'm not exactly into the whole pvp thing

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 1:23 PM. Reason : its a sham]

11/28/2007 1:23:08 PM

If you're bored, roll Alliance on Gul'Dan. I'm spearheading the formation of a world pvp oriented guild. Gul'Dan has a medium population but a ratio of 1 alliance to 3 horde. Send a message to Tublord in game if you're interested.

11/28/2007 1:46:26 PM

Or you could just roll horde.

11/28/2007 2:04:59 PM

^^^ spriest no good in arena. Surely you jest. I'm leveling a troll spriest on mal'ganis right now. Only running arena and a few bgs a day on my ally pally. I'd need 50 more badges for the healing cloak but I swore to never set foot in a heroic again, so i decided to spend my extra time grinding an alt, hehe.

It's so nice finally having 300 resilience btw. Now if I can only hit 1850 so I can replace my shit mace...

11/28/2007 3:30:26 PM

2v2 with a warlock, sure i can see that. but a spriest dies so easily, the only arena stuff i do is the 'lose 10 matches a week in 5v5' kinda deal with a bunch of PvE off specs (mix and match of feral druid, ehn shaman, prot paladin, rogues, hunters) where i'm the first to get FF and destroyed.

and whenever we see they have a shadow priest we kill it first simply because they're easy to kill

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : ]

11/28/2007 3:40:18 PM

heroics are kinda easy for me to get due to the classes. (my 2v2 team is my warrior and a resto druid) so on days we like the daily heroic we just grab 3 dps monkeys go do it. I have mostly blue L70 tank gear, with like 3 epics. Heroics have been nerfed enough that its no worse then what L70s should be for the most part (fuck crypts though). And hey, badge loots good for pve. I don't think that 25 man raids are any worse then 40 mans. I know a few guilds full of mouth breathers that are atleast 5/6 ssc 3/4 tk, which makes you about equal to being stuck at emp's in AQ. (6/6 and 3/4 means you are stuck on c'thun, speaking of fights where 1 numbnut can wipe a raid).

11/28/2007 3:43:56 PM

I made duelist in 2v2 as destruction.

Mood: Pleasantly surprised.


edit: although I'm hoping it has nothing to do with this:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168326937&postId=31680118208&sid=1#0

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 3:54 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2007 3:45:19 PM

Easy way to solve this problem, pvp gear can only be equipped in BG's, Arena's, and world pvp zones. I honestly wouldnt mind that either.

11/28/2007 6:58:20 PM

somehow i got Challenger. 5v5 1580 must have given it to me, lol GG.

11/28/2007 7:41:21 PM

haha oh jeez

I wonder if you can get challenger with just 1500 on some of the more crowded battlegroups?

11/28/2007 8:54:06 PM

waitin in a 20 min Q....we are getting whooped by msu, i wish i could get in so i don't have to watch this shit

11/28/2007 9:02:57 PM

anyone on whisperwind? thinking about transferring

11/28/2007 9:48:20 PM

as a warrior, sword or mace for arenas this season? i think mace might still win out in 2v2 but sword in larger scales, esp with shaman

11/28/2007 10:24:52 PM

First night of Vashj attempts. Wish us luck! It's funny when even getting to 70% isn't something to be proud of.

11/28/2007 10:32:05 PM

Quote :

"2v2 with a warlock, sure i can see that. but a spriest dies so easily,"

3v3 with lock and resto drood is a sick combo. You always go for the spriest but being on spot with the mana burns and staying up as long as you can is key. I hate geared spriests >.<

11/28/2007 11:11:35 PM

disc > shadow

11/28/2007 11:20:26 PM

well yeah, pain suppression is so nice. Just saying shadow priests are viable with certain teams.

11/28/2007 11:23:20 PM

mace def for 2v2. For 5 v 5 i'd probably take sword, and that point you have enough stuns/cc/snares/interrupts/etc that are controlled you might as well take the bonus damage

11/29/2007 8:53:45 AM

right, thats pretty much how i feel. and axe is still my favorite but the -dmg reduction with resilience kills its use :/ so i didnt even consider it.

11/29/2007 9:01:42 AM

OK, so Hex Lord Malacrass is slightly ridiculous.

11/29/2007 12:31:18 PM

I see the tops of them titties everyday and think GOD DAMN! ...oh wait

11/29/2007 12:39:39 PM

^ qft

^^ pssh. we downed him our first day trying on like the 4-5th attempt. Have a warlock fear the Imp into range of Malacrass. Banish him. Kill the healer. Sheep the ogre, shackle the undead guy. Then just l2heal. If you get other adds i dunno, we've had those both times.

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason : 7]

11/29/2007 12:41:54 PM

I'm a axe-orc though and though, but its been beaten silly for pvp. Res don't hurt a stun and it doesn't hurt sword 2nd swing.

11/29/2007 3:43:10 PM

oh definitely. im axe all the way at heart. used HWL battleaxe FOREVER pre BC. almost 2 years i think? i forget how long this darn games been out. The only other weapon I had my eyes on was the DEoI.

in BC i was lunar crescent, mooncleaver for S1 and finally gave into Mace

11/29/2007 3:55:54 PM

you're doin fine with axes right? no need to switch.

I enjoy swords as a rogue (0/31/30 sword specced), and i do just fine. i own face in pvp, and don't need mace spec to pull off a stunlock. I enjoy seeing that extra attack pop up (esp as a crit) instead of pray for a mace stun proc.

11/29/2007 3:59:01 PM

mace is far too broken for anyon to have to "pray" for a mace proc

11/29/2007 4:08:09 PM

res hoses axe spec compared to sword for damage, or mace of annoyance (5% chance to crit with reduced damage < 5% chance of non-reduced double attack, that can crit)

11/29/2007 4:17:58 PM

^^^ yea i did fine with axe (gladiator), but felt like i was still missing something from other warriors when a stun by an opposing warrior would cost us the game.

however, with the S2 mace at the moment, the mace proc is nerfed enough that im considering going to one of the other weapons since the proc landing is close to rare atm for me personally

11/29/2007 4:26:15 PM

what kind of raid window addons do you guys use? i have been using grid but it seems part of it (gridstatusmissingbuffs) isn't working anymore and that's all i really wanted it for. any suggestions?

11/30/2007 2:12:14 AM

i use xperl but i'm not a healer so i only have my party window up.

11/30/2007 9:48:22 AM

everyone post shots of your gaming window.

mine looks almost like new except for the tab at the top and bottom of the screen for mods

11/30/2007 9:59:14 AM

http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot112207010603qh9.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot112307202935tu3.jpg


[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 11:20 AM. Reason : +1]

11/30/2007 11:17:42 AM

i like those.. is that a compilation that I could download from somewhere?

11/30/2007 11:49:34 AM

i like big buttons and shit

http://www.epidemic-guild.com/10manui.jpg

http://www.epidemic-guild.com/gearcompare.jpg

probably going to switch to recount and add X-Raid Status

and I might switch to Grid+Clique. Using Healbot now.

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 11:52 AM. Reason : dd]

11/30/2007 11:50:23 AM

i made it myself.

its basically Xperl + Bongos2 + CtBuffmod. And i also use Milks Scrolling Battle Text just because.

11/30/2007 11:53:07 AM

Quote :

"its basically Xperl + Bongos2 + CtBuffmod itemrack. And i also use Milks Scrolling Battle Text just because. "

im pretty similar

11/30/2007 12:11:43 PM

yeah item rack is the shit. i have a bunch of other random mods, but none really change the UI, just information things like atlas / titan ect.

11/30/2007 12:14:08 PM

right. i dumped everything but hte mods i listed awhile ago. i definitely had more in the past.

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 12:20 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2007 12:20:34 PM

went xperl+bongos last night, def enjoying it. still need a few tweaks and i'll be good.

11/30/2007 2:02:57 PM

i use pitbull for unit frames and it's awesome so i don't want to replace it, i just need something for raid groups that can show missing buffs and certain debuffs. grid had a module that did this perfectly but it doesn't work anymore and i don't think it's getting updated.

http://www.thewolfweb.com/photos/00489117.jpg

raid groups expand into the bottom right corner, party frame shows up there when not in a raid.

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 3:01 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2007 2:54:25 PM

pitbull has a raid unit frame you can turn on fyi

11/30/2007 3:04:02 PM

11/30/2007 3:13:18 PM

Quote :

"pitbull has a raid unit frame you can turn on fyi"

i'll mess with that later tonight, i didn't even think about it. i've been using it for such a long time i was lost without grid.

11/30/2007 3:14:59 PM

Current UI. I've played around with a few styles and this is my favorite. It's Tapestry UI.

11/30/2007 3:33:28 PM

draenai aren't real shamen

11/30/2007 3:45:44 PM

11/30/2007 3:46:30 PM

i tried putting an extensive GUI mod on, but that didn't turn out well at all

so i just have the basic interface with Omen and SW Stats on the side. Besides, the classes I play only have like 5, 6 buttons to use tops in a normal fight

11/30/2007 3:51:12 PM

Quote :

"Hemorrhage weapon damage reduced from 125% to 110%, but the damage debuff has been increased."

what the fuck is this bullshit.

damage debuff increased? yeah from 36 to 37. FUCK THAT.

11/30/2007 4:23:41 PM

we went the last 2 years getting nerfed every single patch. we get a buff and then a corresponding nerf 2 weeks later. I will only be satisfied with this if they un-normalize hemo. otherwise there's no reason to play a rogue in competitive pvp anymore, not with druids only getting stronger with better gear and warriors sittin pretty with their new trees.

11/30/2007 5:31:29 PM

yeah cloak of shadows is a huge nerf. If you say otherwise then you don't know when to use it.

[Edited on November 30, 2007 at 7:56 PM. Reason : IF]

11/30/2007 7:56:22 PM