Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
So Ric Flair didn't know about the Reid Flair angle in the main event promo ahead of time. 11/19/2015 11:56:08 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/52705923-story
I wonder what the swerve will be? 11/22/2015 11:46:26 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Certainly puts a new spin on Survivor Series 11/22/2015 11:57:34 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S ME AUSTIN! I WAS ISIS ALL ALONG, AUSTIN! EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT! 11/22/2015 12:10:09 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Haha 11/22/2015 1:05:48 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cesaro impresses more and more...but of course its so obvious reigns was going to win that whole thing...(I mean maybe there's a 10% chance they push Ambrose some instead) maybe I 'm just more mature and understand the business more but wrestling seemed less predictable in the attitude era" |
Most likely, but there is that Sheamus guy with his fancy briefcase lurking about too...at some point I would assume they are going to put it on him.11/22/2015 10:29:17 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ like 25 minutes after your post
Quote : | "I'm afraid they're turning Roman Reigns into the next Lex Luger." |
11/23/2015 7:06:17 AM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
^I mostly just posted it just in case so I could say "called it!"....but made a lot of sense...they love to let the face win and then rip it away from him five minutes later. 11/23/2015 11:22:25 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
I really hate 3-minute title reigns. 11/23/2015 12:27:18 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Agreed. Time for the Money in the Bank stuff to go away. 11/23/2015 12:29:09 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Money in the Bank is a great concept when it's flexible. With the merging of the WWE Championship and WHC, the moments that make sense for cashing in are more obvious. You can fiddle with them a bit (Ziggler waiting until the Raw after Mania to cash on Del Rio, Rollins cashing in the middle of a match), but there's no longer a game to trying to sort out the stories. 11/23/2015 4:23:23 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Rating for Raw the day after Survivor Series 2014 (Sting debut the night before):
Quote : | "8-9: 4.73 million 9-10: 3.99 million 10-11: 4.01 million
Average: 4.24 million" |
Rating for Raw this week after Survivor Series 2015 (Sheamus is champ!!!)
Quote : | "8-9: 3.19 million 9-10: 2.99 million 10-11: 2.71 million
Average: 2.95 million" |
30% drop year-over-year. What odds would I get that nothing will change, 1/5?
[Edited on November 25, 2015 at 12:29 PM. Reason : /]11/25/2015 12:28:43 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously if they push Reigns even more they can turn it around 11/25/2015 12:37:59 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Orton was already going to be out with shoulder surgery and he had an outside shot at wrestling at Mania. But once he's healed from shoulder surgery, he then has to have neck surgery which may put him out until maybe 2017 at the earliest, if he comes back at all. They don't know how bad his neck is until they open him up. 12/1/2015 3:31:54 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Such a snoozefest last night. Only time I kinda perked up was the Dreamer appearance. 12/1/2015 3:44:30 PM |
4howl1 All American 4252 Posts user info edit post |
It's been over a year since Sting showed up at the Survivor Series. I didn't rejoice nor did I brand him as a sellout. Instead, the idea of Sting being in a WWE ring was the final stage of grief--the last WCW holdout finally working for the competition. The WrestleMania match was horrible so I won't recap it here. Pile on the fuckery that was his match at Night of Champions, and Sting has not won a match since the October 10, 2013 Impact--and that was a tag team match with Magnus. 12/1/2015 9:32:15 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ I always wondered "why is the NWO helping Sting?" 12/2/2015 9:29:28 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
That match should've been a real elimination match, should've gone on at 9:55, and should've taken up the entire third hour of the show. They put the main event of a three hour show on at 8:15. WTFFFFFF 12/9/2015 12:48:53 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
I've been consistently waiting until 830-9pm to watch, catching up via DVR through the show. If it doesn't get interesting or draw me in for the main event by the time I'm caught up (usually by 10pm or so), then I tend to tune out. 12/9/2015 8:12:10 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not saying that the opening segment shouldn't be something that grabs attention, but the last hour of the show being a long, crazy elimination match that ends with the champion and challenger facing off is what "main event" is all about. Instead, the main event of this show was Roman Reigns saying "tater tot" five times in twenty minutes. 12/9/2015 11:38:43 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
good I'm not the only one doubting reigns...I mean it'd be nice to see him get a decent championship run but man if hes jammed down our throats like Cena was...seems like it will be unbearable
I thought that crazy first match actually came together pretty well despite all the chaos, also KO and ziggler put on a great match, don't remember that much otherwise
and man I enjoy watching Ambrose, but when are his opponents going to have permission to actually counter all his signature moves for once?
(ps. take back what I said about tyler breeze and adam rose, totally different characters but still would like to see rose get a push) 12/9/2015 7:10:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The 16-man match was fine, it's the placement I have an issue with. Throwing those guys in a crazy match to start, then having them all come out later and advance their stories is totally backwards. The potential was there for a ridiculous, awesome hour-plus match (remember two years ago when there were incredible 6-man tag matches on every show?) and Raw goes off the air with Reigns standing tall, and they blew it. 12/11/2015 1:18:26 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Roman Always Wins 12/11/2015 2:03:56 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
12/13/2015 9:20:55 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Crowd chanting "we want Cena" during the main event right now 12/13/2015 10:24:07 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Ending of the show was big for Roman. Hopefully they can harness that momentum, but I fear they'll throw it all away with dumb booking. 12/14/2015 12:02:26 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Vince on Raw tonight 12/14/2015 10:42:11 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
so sheamus was champion for like a month or less hmm, oh well good to see a title actually change hands on a non ppv; def refreshing to me
(btw what happened to wade barrett; i thought he would get an interesting push from this league of nations deal) 12/15/2015 12:58:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The end of the PPV and the final segment last night were really, really well done. They fixed Roman in two nights. 12/15/2015 1:44:17 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Barrett is supposedly hurt. 12/15/2015 2:45:42 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
ah well they can pretty easily just throw Kevin Owens in there 12/17/2015 12:52:29 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Canadians are considered American for kayfabe purposes. 12/17/2015 2:01:46 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
great ladies match...wrestling is good but I think it would be interesting to throw a high flyer type of gal and maybe a more brutish physical lady in to the mix
and it was funny something finally went against dean ambrose even though i like him...damn that powerbomb 12/29/2015 1:22:37 PM |
4howl1 All American 4252 Posts user info edit post |
Time to hand out my awards for the worst of the worst in wrestling for 2015 (full explanations can be found at https://ello.co/dagrappla): Jabronies of the Year Dixie Carter & Hulk Hogan
Most Deteriorated Wrestler Daniel Bryan
Worst Wrestler Tyrus
Worst Tag Team The Ascension
Worst Female Wrestler Eva Marie
Worst Match of the Year Robbie E vs Brooke on the March 13 Impact
Worst Booker Vince McMahon
Worst Wrestling Move Twin Magic by the Bella Twins
Worst Decision John Cena brings back the Authority
Worst Angle The Lana-Rusev-Dolph Ziggler-Summer Rae love quadrangle
Worst Feud Robbie E vs Jesse Godderz
Worst Gimmick The New Day
Most Overrated Wrestler Kenny King
Worst PPV Triplemania XXIII
Biggest Disappointment WWE's handling of Sting's return
Worst Authority Figure or TV Personality Dixie Carter
Worst TV Show The January 5 Raw
Worst Phrases "I own Sting just like we own the Superstars and all of you. The Authority always wins" Quote #1 from Triple H at WrestleMania 31
"If Lesnar thinks he can go back to MMA, as he announced on SportsCenter, he just signed a contract with WWE. That means I own that son of a bitch!" Quote #2 from Stephanie McMahon on the March 30 Raw
Dishonorable Mention Rusev Crazzy Steve Bo Dallas Global Force Wrestling 12/29/2015 6:17:38 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Worst Gimmick The New Day" |
Six months of being boring and six months of being THE TOTALLY INCREDIBLE BEST THING ON THE SHOW EVERY WEEK nets them a Worst Gimmick?
LOLOLOLOL.12/30/2015 8:56:15 PM |
4howl1 All American 4252 Posts user info edit post |
An addition to Dishonorable Mention is whatever the fuck this was with Joey Ryan http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/3/9841634/video-joey-ryan-danshoku-dino-strong-penis-wrestling-is-real 1/2/2016 1:04:31 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on January 3, 2016 at 5:31 PM. Reason : /]
1/3/2016 5:30:54 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
WWE have signed Shinsuke Nakamura, A.J. Styles, Doc Gallows (formerly Festus and Luke Gallows in WWE, Doc in TNA), and Lance Archer (formerly Lance Hoyt in TNA and Vance Archer in WWE) away from New Japan. 1/4/2016 10:04:38 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
It's Karl Anderson, not Hoyt. 1/5/2016 2:10:47 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
man I missed this social outcast thing....we have yet another group now goodness...don't know what I think about this prob not good as 3MB suddenly comes to mind; does that mean these guys are on their way out too? (I still thought Rose had some potential if they just took his original character in a little bit of a fresh direction) oh well Slater survived the last go around (needs his long hair back though) 1/5/2016 6:05:21 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Vince must be pissed. WON:
Quote : | "Former WWE Champion John Cena will have shoulder surgery and will miss this year's Wrestlemania according to a members-only report by PWInsider's Mike Johnson.
The injury is believed to be a rotator cuff injury, putting Cena out of action for 6-9 months.
The 38-year-old Cena's injury is just the latest in a string of injuries to top WWE stars (Seth Rollins, Randy Orton) and mid-level talents like Cesaro in recent months, thinning out the roster and leaving WWE to focus on talents like WWE Champion Roman Reigns, Sheamus, Dean Ambrose, The New Day, and Kevin Owens to help carry things. Brock Lesnar returns this Monday on RAW and Chris Jericho just returned Monday to help add some part-time depth.
Cena just returned from a short absence off TV as he was filming a reality series for FOX. He was expected to continue his feud with U.S. Champion Alberto Del Rio." |
1/6/2016 9:21:32 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Will this make them desperate enough to activate Daniel Bryan? 1/6/2016 10:02:51 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
In addition to signing three Bullet Club guys, WWE has also bought the rights to the Bullet Club name/image/merchandise. Main roster Balor/Styles feud incoming?! 1/7/2016 4:46:50 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
The thing that made the Bullet Club work in Japan was it was an American-style heel group that did mass interference in matches in a place where that is not the norm at all. That is in no way the case in WWE.
There was apparently a great angle New Japan did the day after the Tokyo Dome to write out A.J. Styles.
[Edited on January 8, 2016 at 6:05 AM. Reason : .] 1/8/2016 6:04:02 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The American Bullet Club should almost certainly be something different than the Japanese Bullet Club.
I'm choosing to have faith that they won't screw it up, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
So, who wins the Rumble? Roman, Brock, or HHH? 1/8/2016 11:53:42 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Bryan, lol 1/8/2016 2:24:39 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
They already passed once on Styles, that's why he went to New Japan to start with after leaving TNA. Nakamura I just feel they'll make him a stereotypical Japanese character. It's hard to explain him to people that don't see him, there's no one in American wrestling comparable to him in my opinion. Tanahashi over there is the Cena, but to say Nakamura is the Orton would do an incredible disservice to Nakamura and doesn't even capture the loads of charisma the man has during a wrestling match.
I have to imagine a heel (who is there, Triple H?) is winning the Rumble so Reigns can lose the title without getting pinned, and then win the belt at Mania to give him the big moment they've been dying to give him.
[Edited on January 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM. Reason : /] 1/9/2016 10:09:01 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Bad merch decisions aside, they've managed to avoid those pitfalls with Itami and Asuka. Yes, NXT is much different than the main roster, but they didn't default to it. On top of that, Nakamura can speak English, so he's got a leg up on the recent imports. 1/9/2016 7:26:56 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
They didn't screw up in saying they're minor leaguers? 1/9/2016 7:51:52 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
What part of the audience says, "Oh, minor leaguers" based on their presence in NXT, rather than main roster presentation?
The casual audience doesn't watch NXT, so these guys just appear out of nowhere. Remember the Breeze/Kidd/Zayn/Neville NXT teaser match on Raw in 2014? Surely a few people in the crowd knew who they were, but the casual fan just watched them work, and FREAKED THE FUCK OUT ABOUT IT. When Neville did the Red Arrow on Raw for the first time, the crowd didn't even know what to do. They didn't think, "minor leaguers," they thought "HOLY SHIT!"
The hardcore fan watches NXT and knows that it's an excellent wrestling show with great performers, so they don't think of it as the "minor leagues," either; if anything, the hardcore wrestling fan wants the shiny new international stars to stay on NXT so they can have 30 minute matches with other shiny indie stars, not the other way around.
People will point to the shoddy main roster standing of NXT stars at the moment, but that's all in presentation. Owens was presented perfectly and then nerfed because CENA WINS LOL. Neville showed up (in a cape, sigh) as one of the most dynamic talents available, and immediately started losing. Breeze was inserted into one of the worst-ever Raw angles, which soon ended and left him directionless. The conference call idea that they won't call anyone up without six months of plan (which is ridiculous even for everyone but the Mania main event, let alone call-ups) is directly contradicted by Breeze, who has LITERALLY NOTHING less than three months after debuting.
I've not seen a shred of complaint about KENTA or Kana debuting in NXT as calling them "minor league," because WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED and everyone knows they need some seasoning in American style and presentation and also need to learn English. Casual fans don't know who they are or that they're working, and hardcore fans understand exactly what's going on. The only thing that matters is how they're presented when they're called up. Yes, that's a concern to me going forward, especially with the company's past handling of Asian talents, but not for a second am I concerned that an actual, breathing WWE fan is going to see them as "minor leaguers." 1/10/2016 1:38:18 PM |