word. i did a ridiculous amount of premade BGs back pre BC when i was going of HWL and then after xserver came out, now i mainly just do arenas. but i pug up some bgs here and there. i had a nasty wsg team

[Edited on January 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM. Reason : ]

1/5/2008 12:42:52 AM

i wish i knew some of the PvP strats

Alliance gets rolled in everything, pug vs pug, except for AV.

Recently we've been getting a LOT of horde premades for AV, where we get absolutely 0 bonus honor because the horde cuts us off at Geval.

EotS is hopeless, WSG blah, AB is hardly worth trying

No communication, no moral, and no ability to follow instructions is what kills us on Alliance side I think. Anyone have similar experience or some good strats to point out? I know a 3 cap in EotS is great, but getting one and keeping it? I run into trouble trying to lead the pugs from my battlegroup.

1/5/2008 2:42:54 AM

^ trying to lead alliance pugs is a waste of time. sadly, there is nothing you can do.

1/5/2008 2:59:36 AM

^^ are you on ruin?

1/5/2008 11:58:50 AM

Quote :

"whatd you do pick the one class that is out of the ordinary?"

no.. I picked the one I play. the one that's constantly shit on because really good people find a way to own, nerf after nerf, so the class suffers as a result. rogues are a simple enough class that they really take a lot of skill/quick thinking to be good at. say what you will, but no other class has gotten more nerfs, and while being nerfed, still manages to hang around. look at our gear differences, set to set pve/pvp, ability nerfs with each patch, the list goes on. yet, an execeptional rogue can still manage top dps with equal gear and be a force in arenas. sucks we have to always be exceptional, and don't get any easy mode handouts like curse of exhaustion, cyclone, the ability to shift infinitely to escape danger, ranged damage, a 2.5k instant that applies 5 stacks of wound poison, a finisher that does more than 2k instantly.. anywhere near regularly, intercept that doesn't always obey los, fear, etc

oh yeah.. we have a stun every 20s and an incapacitate that interferes with our only quasi-scaling finisher.

yeah.

1/5/2008 12:53:43 PM

amen.

I love being a rogue.

1/5/2008 3:21:34 PM

hey look, a rogue QQ'ing. i've never seen that before.

1/5/2008 4:09:51 PM

I giggle at rogues bitching

1/5/2008 5:28:23 PM

lol rogues

fuck your cloak of shadows btw

its not like you already destroy casters that aren't frost mage

1/5/2008 6:30:59 PM

Can't xfer to arthas. What's another good ruin pvp server?

1/5/2008 6:46:15 PM

Quote :

"Mik's Scrolling Battle Text"

how can I turn off the option to track high scores?

1/5/2008 7:20:00 PM

Quote :

"^^ are you on ruin?"

missed this, but yeah i'm on ruin. Alliance PvP sucks, every game everyone is expecting to lose. I like to at least fight them and try to lead the nubs. I orchestrated an impressive comeback in EotS recently...except for the part where the horde was 1000 ahead at the moment >_>. Leading a battleground is pretty fun, I just want to know some strats.

Like EotS, the most common horde strat seems to focus on getting a 3 cap via a mobile assault group with skeleton crew guards at the 2 docile towers, with people calling out incomings so the assault group or a reinforcement group can come back...all the while 1 or 2 guys running the flag.

AB and WSG I don't know anything about, other than WSG one group on flag caps and one group on defense is generally decent, but a stalemate can be pretty rough to get through successfully. I twinked my first toon (priest) for lvl 19 WSG but didn't really pick up anything from it, just played with a premade guild and the guys in the suite.

^^Skullcrusher might be a good realm to look up, dunno if its pvp. Seen and heard of a few good horde premades ( ) come out of there. Can't remember any others at the moment.

1/5/2008 8:31:33 PM

everyone laughs at rogues bitching because they know their getting the fucking shaft. the only class that could bitch more would be shamen that want to spec something other than resto.

1/6/2008 12:34:28 PM

what is the site with all of the server stats? populations, ratios, all that stuff.

never mind, google is a wonderful thing

[Edited on January 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2008 12:47:14 PM

Quote :

"everyone laughs at rogues bitching because they know their getting the fucking shaft. the only class that could bitch more would be shamen that want to spec something other than resto."

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Blitztod

1/6/2008 12:52:02 PM

Quote :

"the ability to shift infinitely to escape danger"

you know druid shapeshifting costs mana, and thus is not infinite...right?

[Edited on January 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2008 1:00:47 PM

Quote :

"^^Skullcrusher might be a good realm to look up, dunno if its pvp. Seen and heard of a few good horde premades ( ) come out of there. Can't remember any others at the moment."

I'm on Skullcrusher and we have an awesome PvP guild that advertises for open spots in their premades a lot. Guild name is Vengeful if you want to look it up. A couple weeks ago, I posted about doing Premade AVs with them and how alliance didn't even make it to Gulv (like Peter has been saying)

[Edited on January 6, 2008 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2008 1:03:46 PM

my buddy is selling his acct, 70 druid 70 warrior (alliance pvp) and 70 shaman (horde pvp), pst

1/6/2008 1:14:05 PM

who wants a 70 frost mage horde pvp oldskool kara gear/crafted or 70 goat alliance mage pve xferable with spellstrike/fire and blues.

pretty soon these accts will prolly be worthless eh.


working on gearing a buddy's hunter now...those engineering goggles are effing insane btw.

1/6/2008 1:37:35 PM

Guess I'm xfering to skullcrusher. Me, an UD lock with only 200 resil and NCSUGimp on his now 67 rogue.

1/6/2008 2:04:25 PM

^^ i would actually be interested in the mage.. i just started leveling one, but really don't want to go thru with it

how much would it cost total? paying you, transfer servers, transfer accounts? i've never done that

1/6/2008 4:19:54 PM

while i dont know what has really changed for rogues since its not a class i keep up with. i do know that they are extremely powerful in several different makeups in 2s and 3s and can be in 5s (especially 4-1 teams as opposed to 3-2 teams).

last time i was looking at my BGs rankings, something like 8 of the top 10 22 teams were rogue + something and like 12 out of the top 20 were rogue + something and there were at least 4 different partners represented with the rogues. similar in 3s with active rogues on more than half of the first page teams. so somehow rogues out there are figuring out what they need to do to win.

1/6/2008 4:21:50 PM

8 of the top 10 2*v*2 teams, stupid typo

1/6/2008 5:31:00 PM

You couldnt transfer the mage to your account, basically you would pay for the account, and then have to pay the monthly fee for both accounts. When expansion comes out you will also have to buy 2 copies of it since each account requires a seperate key =/.

1/6/2008 7:17:37 PM

Yeah I would just give you the secret answer or whatever and the gmail access.

Wtf is up with all these bots lately? It seems everyone on alliance reports you if you're alt tabbed for just a second screaming AFK botters and i've noticed a lot of horde running shitty ass profiles in AB.

1/7/2008 4:33:19 AM

welfare epics that are ultra easily obtained solo = easy money for powerleveling services. you can bot a char to full epics from greens in a week.

1/7/2008 12:51:55 PM

in a way its sort of good

keep the BG queues down
I get honor more
I kill players who are botting and feel better about myself.

1/7/2008 2:51:29 PM

I saw this hunter in wsg that had to be a bot

a very awesome and sophisticatedly programmed bot

it was cool

all types of things he was doing... but definitely easily killable and patterned

1/7/2008 3:14:20 PM

^ or a noob

1/7/2008 6:32:29 PM

Account Cancelled.

1/7/2008 6:46:37 PM

ahhh, obviously power leveling services....I *knew* there couldn't be that many new competent people out there with access to that stuff.

1/7/2008 8:29:28 PM

hmm, btw i'd probably trade either mage for an equal value paladin

1/7/2008 10:08:22 PM

My GOD sl/sl is fucking sick. My lock is nasty. Ever take on a group of 4 in AV solo and survive? yeah.

[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM. Reason : .]

1/8/2008 12:14:01 AM

whatever, i roll bgs.

1/8/2008 1:06:15 AM

Do tell.

1/8/2008 1:11:23 AM

Druids:
- Lifebloom: When this ability is refreshed it will take on the strength of the incoming Lifebloom effect, rather than maintain the existing strength.

w-t-f!!!!

Ugh.

1/8/2008 1:32:50 PM

I like how hunter's freezing trap now affects more than one target

1/8/2008 1:39:35 PM

^^^ you're not poststalking me are you?

1/8/2008 1:40:20 PM

freezing trap doesn't affect multiple targets per trap, it just means you can have multiple people trapped by multiple traps at the same time.

for example:
Lay trap 1
wait 30 seconds for cooldown on trap to end
Something runs into trap 1 and gets trapped
Lay trap 2
Something runs into trap 2 and gets trapped

In pvp its only going to happen in very very rare circumstances, but it can be very useful in some places in pve where you need 1 more thing CCed for a small ammount of time.

It was actually the way it worked from release until a few patches ago. You probably never noticed hunters could do it before because its so situational.

On another note: more feral druid buffs, hurrrrrrrrrrrr. Druids go 1 nerf back, 2 buffs forward.

1/8/2008 3:24:36 PM

ahahahah

do people call druids furries?

they should

1/8/2008 3:37:11 PM

^^ doesn't a freezing trap disappear after some time if not activated?

1/8/2008 4:35:51 PM

what feral druid buff? the ravage buff from 350 to 385? or is there something more useful i havent heard about.

you know most druids pounce and 35% damage increase wont change that... its only an opener. now if they bumped up the damage on shred, now that'd be something useful.

1/8/2008 5:00:57 PM

there is trap useage cooldown (without the set bonus) is like 20 seconds or 30. I can't remember.

Once that cool down is up it'll remain for another 30 seconds of so.

Right now, you can lay two down. If one freezes and the other is still its fine. If the 2nd one freezes something the first one is unfrozen.

This happens most of the time when terribad tanks drag mobs all over traps during pulls completely messing up your trap rotation.

1/8/2008 5:01:27 PM

Quote :

"Water Shield now restores mana periodically regardless of how many charges remain. Duration increased to 10 minutes. (New Version - The caster is surrounded by 3 globes of water, granting 50 mana per 5 sec. When a spell, melee or ranged attack hits the caster, 200 mana is restored to the caster. This expends one water globe. Only one globe will activate every few seconds. Lasts 10 min. Only one Elemental Shield can be active on the Shaman at any one time.)"

THANK YOU

1/8/2008 6:08:29 PM

i heard the hemo nerf is insanely over the top. hopefully it gets unfucked for you guys

1/8/2008 6:24:43 PM

Ruin FTW

1/9/2008 2:00:48 AM

Quote :

"[quote]Water Shield now restores mana periodically regardless of how many charges remain. Duration increased to 10 minutes. (New Version - The caster is surrounded by 3 globes of water, granting 50 mana per 5 sec. When a spell, melee or ranged attack hits the caster, 200 mana is restored to the caster. This expends one water globe. Only one globe will activate every few seconds. Lasts 10 min. Only one Elemental Shield can be active on the Shaman at any one time.)"

THANK YOU[/quote]

this is the best shit ever.

clear kara tonight...never ran out of mana for a boss. the water shield brings me up to 210mp5 per 5 sec.

so happy

1/9/2008 2:06:09 AM

^^ which server? I'm on skullcrusher.. been leveling my hunter pretty hardcore recently. getting kinda burned out on it. got him to 63 and I'm in Zangarmarsh. debating looking into the bot thing

haven't raided with my warrior in nearly 3 weeks

1/9/2008 2:26:07 AM

banged our heads against the magtherion wall last night.

probably didnt help we were short on healers. They couldnt keep the DPS up, and people would be dead before they were supposed to be clicking.

1/9/2008 6:56:44 AM

the problem with mag, is it actually requires people to have at least half a brain. (which about 90% of the WoW population don't qualify).

1/9/2008 7:05:10 AM