Oh Noes! SEC is dumber than ACC. That's so important in athletics.

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM. Reason : 4]

6/11/2010 4:56:05 PM

After posting all that about Vandy. WHY THE FUCK do you think we want them?? We dont need another Duke.



* A "Duke" that doesnt win championships in sports that matter.

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 5:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2010 5:06:21 PM

yeah seriously, fuck vandy. the conference is supposed to be made stronger by expansion

6/11/2010 5:49:23 PM

I didn't say we would really want them. I just said it would happen before a WVU, Lousiville type. Basketball & academics are important in the ACC (& especially to the powers that matter) and if the ACC has to expand, it will look at Vandy, Syracuse, & Rutgers first, and perhaps Pitt/UConn.

6/11/2010 6:15:46 PM

Quote :

"After posting all that about Vandy. WHY THE FUCK do you think we want them?? We dont need another Duke. wake forest"

[Edited on June 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM. Reason : ]

6/11/2010 7:03:34 PM

These are the same people that brought you Boston College and did anyone really want them?

You can't tell me that Duke, Wake, BC, GT, UNC, & UVA would rather be associated with a WVU or Louisville than Vandy.

Vandy fits in academically and makes geographic sense. Of course, I would think Syracuse would be the first choice for expansion, but Vandy would be among the first schools we look at, especially if the Big 10 adds Rutgers and/or Syracuse.

6/11/2010 9:06:55 PM

can we kick boston college out?

6/11/2010 9:08:33 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/405305-why-the-sec-should-invite-unc-duke-to-join-and-why-they-should-accept

this guy is an idiot

6/12/2010 10:57:04 PM

double

[Edited on June 12, 2010 at 10:57 PM. Reason : m]

6/12/2010 10:57:04 PM

Vandy is a good fit in the ACC. Basketball first school with outstanding academics. Let FSU and Miami join the SEC. ACC can then go after a few Big East schools and become a 14 team conference. I actually hope Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC because the Pac-10 will always be a boring ass conference.

6/12/2010 11:08:31 PM

ok, i can appreciate academics, but you really think we should let fsu and miami walk and bring in fucking vanderbilt? that is the worst idea i've ever heard

6/12/2010 11:25:47 PM

This whole expansion thing is all about the money...do you really think the payout per school will go up by adding Vanderbilt?

Quote :

"Let FSU and Miami join the SEC."

Everything I read suggests the SEC isn't seriously considering this b/c adding Miami and FSU wouldn't do much to expand their tv market.



Oh...and it just occurred to me that the Big 10 now has 12 teams and the Big 12 has 10...the next generation of college sports fans are going to be terribly confused

[Edited on June 13, 2010 at 12:02 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2010 11:33:41 PM

^ Yeah money wise it is a bad move. I wasn't thinking of it in those terms. I guess the ACC really needs to keep the state of Florida in it's conference, especially the Miami market.

6/13/2010 12:02:49 AM

Wow... Fedex is willing to pay a BCS conference $10 million A YEAR to let Memphis in...

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/FedEx-would-pay-conference-10-million-to-add-Memphis-report-says-061210

6/13/2010 2:18:34 AM

^ the SAS guys need to step the fuck up

6/13/2010 4:37:54 AM

And do what?

6/13/2010 8:06:06 AM

When the Fedex dude does shit like that it really makes Memphis look second rate.

6/13/2010 8:37:08 AM

^^^ We're already in a BCS conference.

6/13/2010 10:45:38 AM

Geez for 10 mil a year they could probably get some conferences to change their name to conference FedEx...

6/13/2010 11:58:57 AM

Not sure if this has been posted, but this dude is $$$$$


http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/65557-The-Way-of-The-World-Conference-Realignment-Redux-in-MS-Paint/

6/13/2010 3:15:16 PM

What is this an italian leprechaun?

6/13/2010 3:23:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2005_Southern_California_vs._Notre_Dame_football_game&oldid=367242030

6/13/2010 4:11:50 PM

My prediction: IF A&M comes to SEC, the SEC will take VT to keep divisions equal. AAC will take Memphis just for bball alone ( and $10 mil a year) to maintain equal divisions.

6/14/2010 9:27:48 AM

Would have no problem taking Memphis and grabbing that 10 mil.

6/14/2010 9:47:22 AM

^^
No one is going to accept that bribe.

6/14/2010 10:13:09 AM

^^^ I doubt VT would leave. The money isn't that much greater if it is split 14 ways, and they have a much better shot at appearing in a BCS bowl year in and year out from the ACC.

[Edited on June 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM. Reason : ^]

6/14/2010 10:18:30 AM

6/14/2010 11:15:07 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5284375

6/14/2010 11:20:28 AM

since ^ apparently too lazy to just post the article

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"The departure of Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 is imminent, four sources within the Big 12 said Monday. One source said commissioner Dan Beebe's last-minute plan to save the conference has "zero" chance to succeed. Another source said it is "very unlikely" to succeed. Texas' interests in being aligned with the research opportunities and academic missions of Pac-10 schools is driving the decision, along with money. Beebe's last-ditch plan included an emotional plea about preserving rivalries and maintaining the best welfare of the student-athlete, one source said. Texas A&M is now most likely to join the SEC, a source within the Big 12 said. This move, in the wake of Colorado and Nebraska's departure, would further diminish the chance of Beebe's plan succeeding, one source said. Texas' decision is expected to come no later than Tuesday. One source familiar with Texas' plans suggested a hearing on Wednesday at the Texas House of Representatives is "a nonfactor." "

6/14/2010 11:24:40 AM

aha ESPN now reporting that Texas has decided to stay

6/14/2010 12:02:08 PM

Hitler weighs in:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4739650/big_12_dead/

6/14/2010 12:39:40 PM

Goddamn.. I tried not to laugh.. I tried to hold it.. But goddamn.. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

6/14/2010 12:45:02 PM

only part i even had a mental laugh was the part about Fox Sports net and HD

6/14/2010 12:52:22 PM

that was not funny at all...except for adolfs burnt oarnge assless chaps

6/14/2010 1:11:42 PM

lol, SI.com article lists NC STATE in potential SEC pickups

but they basically tell more reasons why it is unlikely than why they included them

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/14/if-texas-aandm-is-secs-lucky-13-who-is-14/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002

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"6. N.C. State The University of North Carolina isn't coming to the SEC. Stop e-mailing me about this. The only reason I included N.C. State on this list was so people stopped e-mailing me about the North Carolina move. Here's why UNC isn't coming: The four North Carolina schools -- UNC, Duke, Wake Forest and N.C. State -- are wedded together via basketball. Duke and North Carolina would never move. In fact, those schools actually voted against the ACC expanding when Miami, Boston College and Virginia Tech were added to the conference. So there's no way they join a weaker academic conference. UNC is tied to those schools culturally. While you're right that basketball doesn't drive the college athletics revenue, it is a cultural touchstone in the state. Plus, under Butch Davis the Tar Heels appear on the verge of turning the football corner. UNC has no reason to move. So why is N.C. State listed? Because of the similarities State shares with Texas A&M. Only State is in worse shape because the other three ACC schools in the state are all better known and more successful than State. Could State succeed in the SEC? Probably not. But would State have a better chance of success in the SEC just because it would finally have an object of differentiation from the other three ACC schools? Definitely. That makes State an intriguing idea, but, likely to remain that, just an idea. If the SEC goes to 14, you can pretty much guarantee, barring an Oklahoma Sooner surprise, that it's one of these six schools."

[Edited on June 14, 2010 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ]

6/14/2010 9:34:45 PM

^ Seems like half of that is sucking UNC's dick.

6/14/2010 10:07:14 PM

Quote :

"The University of North Carolina isn't coming to the SEC. Stop e-mailing me about this. "

Well.... If he is tired of UNC to SEC emails wait till he gets 10 fold the emails from NC State fans

6/14/2010 10:22:30 PM

now dan beebe is all like

6/14/2010 10:41:37 PM

Wake Forest more well known than NC State? Really?

6/14/2010 10:42:21 PM

TAMU is staying in the Big 12... Just saw the email from the president about it.

6/14/2010 10:56:08 PM

^^ yeah, I would say that's true outside of NC

6/14/2010 11:23:39 PM

What exactly are they known for?

I mean I won't contest the "more successful" since the article is mainly about football and they did win the acc like 4 years ago or something. But do people outside of NC know anything about Wake Forest? I don't have any delusions they know all that much about NC State except Jimmy V but what do they know about Wake Forest?

6/14/2010 11:47:11 PM

To name two, Wake's Law and Medicine programs are both well known.

For anecdotal evidence, when I tell my extended family in NJ and Florida I went to/work at NC State, about 90% think I'm talking about UNC.

When I told them my girlfriend goes to Wake, they all went "oh wow, that's a good school".

What it boils down to is that people generally know the good schools that produce lawyers and doctors, but couldn't care less where the guy who designed the bridge they drive over twice a day went to school.

[Edited on June 15, 2010 at 12:03 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2010 12:02:42 AM

^^ paul and duncan, and to a lesser degree howard

6/15/2010 12:04:37 AM

Quote :

"For anecdotal evidence, when I tell my extended family in NJ and Florida I went to/work at NC State, about 90% think I'm talking about UNC. When I told them my girlfriend goes to Wake, they all went "oh wow, that's a good school". "

i experience this quite often as well...pretty annoying

6/15/2010 12:22:06 AM

So now that it appears the big 12 is down to 10 teams and the big 10 is up to 12 can they just go ahead and switch names? Seriously though now that it looks like the big 12 will only lose Colorado and Nebraska I guess the next question is where do they go looking to fill out these 2 spots to keep a championship game. The first few that pop into my head are TCU, Utah, Air Force, Colo State, and maybe they could find a way to steal Arkansas from the SEC?

6/15/2010 8:55:30 AM

TCU maybe.
Utah I can't see right now - not yet.
I can't see a military school joining a major conference. Air Force
Col State maybe to keep the Colorado market. Though I don't know what kind of following CSU has for a fanbase.
Arkansas we've heard rumored to join - I could see that.
What about New Mexico? Or Houston?

6/15/2010 9:38:14 AM

^ I read the Pac-10 is targeting Utah for their 12th place to get the Salt Lake market.

6/15/2010 9:46:10 AM

From what I've read, Texas and Oklahoma don't want a championship game. They don't care if it stays gone. They think it has too much potential to derail a possible national-championship team.

The Pac-10, however, might go after Utah to get to 12 teams.

All of this info is pretty much from various Chip Brown reports. He's the guy from orangebloods.com who reported everything from the outset. He's been on the money on everything even when ESPN was "reporting" the exact opposite was going to happen.


[Edited on June 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM. Reason : whoops...^what he said. I took too long to type. ]

6/15/2010 9:49:16 AM

^^^^ Doesn't mean they will take anyone.

Adding 2 more teams that don't bring much to the table just splits the pie up even more, even with the added revenue from a championship game. Could see them going forward with just the 10 and having a very strong football and basketball conference now(especially basketball). Could prob. add 2 more down the road if they wanted.

Talk about a 180 for the Pac-10. Can just see them all sitting around now like, "Fuck, do we still have to take Colorado?" With USC about to take a dump in athletics they really come out of this as huge losers.

[Edited on June 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2010 9:50:00 AM