Our pvp shard problems will be solved with the honor system.

Shards off of alliance we kill.

Farm alliance.

haha.

4/5/2005 4:19:35 PM

yeah id get aquamarines all the damn time while raiding. no one wanted any on AH so just vendored um.

^ only problem is if your off 1v1'ing ppl that are green to you (unless on the very low end green scale) your gonna use more than 1 per encounter AND if they are melee its gonna be hard to get that thing off unless you time it just right as they die.

4/5/2005 5:57:27 PM

1 is better then none son.

Do the math.

4/5/2005 6:01:11 PM

i agree. i also agree that shards are there for balance despite all the retards on the official forums. i also dont know a better way to do it, but fel concentration looks a helluva lot better after that.

4/5/2005 6:19:52 PM

4/6/2005 12:20:16 AM

4/6/2005 12:27:35 AM

I confused WoW with the real world, does that make me a loser? :/

4/7/2005 3:55:04 AM

pretty much, letting this thread almost go to page 2 would be worse though.

4/7/2005 1:25:43 PM

4/7/2005 1:39:17 PM

DONT PLAY A ROGUE BLONDE HEADED MAN. YOU'LL NEVER GET IN A RAID.

4/7/2005 1:50:25 PM

YOU ARE THE WOWZER!

http://www.worldofwarcraft.co.kr/

4/7/2005 3:46:19 PM

FORTY!!!

4/8/2005 1:34:00 PM

u casual players bore me, 60 ftw....execpt not, cuz theres nothing to do. i started a shaman on bloodscalp thats 11 now. some warrior was mad i beat him in a duel (like they matter at lvl 9), but man did i whoop his ass.

4/8/2005 1:35:55 PM

Yeah, I bought when it came out and I have 7 days of playtime.

God damn that's a lot.

4/8/2005 1:46:13 PM

anybody read the new patch notes?

4/8/2005 1:53:08 PM

Yeah..I read the patch notes...but when is the patch coming out???? Next week? Looks liek the honor system is finally going to be up and working along with battlegrounds. Once school is over I will make it to 60!!!

4/8/2005 2:36:00 PM

horray ill have something to do....kinda, not really. now we'll just have raid groups of 60's running around the plaguelands or ungoro ganking ppl without much opposition. until another raid group comes....then you just have zerg/lagfest 2005.

4/8/2005 2:59:33 PM

^^^^ how can you find out how much play time you have??

4/8/2005 4:42:02 PM

/played

heh 7 days isnt so bad, i've got at least 20 and i bought it 2nd week of january. knew lotta ppl in eq with multiple hundreds of days...this only included the first of the 10 or so expansions.

[Edited on April 8, 2005 at 6:33 PM. Reason : j]

4/8/2005 6:32:00 PM

started 1st week of january and have 11+ days on my main alone.

4/8/2005 10:00:09 PM

im so happy reading the patch notes. i didnt get either book or a horse yet so ill have so much to do. plus since jandice will always drop a blue ill have a much better chance of getting to get my shoulders in a decent amount of time.

4/9/2005 12:47:42 AM

Quote :

"Seduction (Succubus) - Is now considered a Fear effect for purposes of diminishing returns."

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?

4/9/2005 1:15:03 PM

hunter traps have had diminishing returns from the get go.

our bitching rights > your bitching rights.

4/9/2005 1:16:57 PM

our fear has always had diminishing returns too, except now it costs 3x as much as it used to and our other form of defense now is on the same timer, how is that worse? you still have a decent snare and concussion shot. our only form of defense is soul link which 1) you can only spec 1 way 2) limits your pet possibilities and 3) is dispellable.

hunters sux but dont come to warlocks for pity.

4/9/2005 1:25:08 PM

i would love to have pet abilities like you guys do.

it might make them actually useful in pvp.

As it stands right now hunters only work in group pvp or 1v1 vs rogues and shitty palladins.

everything else pwns us hardcore including warlocks. All you guys have to do is fear pet seduce hunter, dot dot dot fear hunter /wave.



p.s. rumors from those on the test servers point to a 30% pet dps stealth nerf. thx blizz

[Edited on April 9, 2005 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2005 1:35:57 PM

i agree pet abilities are awesome, but prob is you can only have 1 and they have most of our very good pvp spells so you gotta pick between escape ability (vw shield or succubs mez), dmg (imp, succubus), or useful buffs/debuff (felhunter, imp).

if you have soul link you better only be using felhunter and vw (unless the person is almost dead and u need burst dps at very end of fight), cuz imp has about 950hp and succubus has about 1150.

situationalness makes them awesome and suck at the same time.

4/9/2005 2:16:55 PM

we get to choose between a useless pet or......

wait we dont have a choice. nm

4/9/2005 2:18:14 PM

you guys bitch too much. if your class sucks, fucking try another.

4/9/2005 2:22:54 PM

i like my class just fine, but i recognize the problems with it. im trying to show him his pets arent as bad as he thinks they are. a 30% change might make me think differently, but i doubt it was intended. its probably a lie or a bug.

[Edited on April 9, 2005 at 2:28 PM. Reason : and i do i have 2 lvl 20 alts and a lvl 30. ]

4/9/2005 2:28:12 PM

ok, so explain to me how my pet is useful in pvp or raid instances.



btw, now that ranged attack is based on defense, we consistantly miss warriors and pallys!

4/9/2005 2:36:25 PM

pets are useful as offtanks in instances or out on the fields in groups...just have your priest shield it and you're good to go...works especially well in mara

4/9/2005 3:08:37 PM

lol. in instances past marudon a pet off tank lasts about 3 hits.

it would be stupid to waste a healer on helping keep a pet alive.

in pvp they're 100% worthless b/c they'll either be ignored (plate classes) or slept/feared.



their only use is solo pve b/c a hunter by himself cannot survive.

4/9/2005 3:12:28 PM

if hunters could use traps in combat or shoot while on the move they would be MUCH better

4/9/2005 3:31:10 PM

Dude

Hunters are mediocre ay,but are consistently mediocre.

Warlocks, on the other hand, are super hard to play initially. Our saving grace was that after lvl 40, we started to become amazingly powerful. Well now, Blizzard is working 24/7 to make us shittastic 40-60 as well.

I mean, there really is only one build to go pvp with.

And Azaka

Great fucking idea. Lets rename WoW to Rogue Simulator 2005.

4/9/2005 4:24:40 PM

I'm probably going to be joining JUICE, fyi.

4/9/2005 5:33:03 PM

Looks like changes on the test server currently are going to make any cloth caster farmable for honor points by rogues. Backstab is critting for over 1k, not to mention that Undead can now break out of sheep.

4/9/2005 5:43:03 PM

OMGZ MY HEAD IS HUGE!

[Edited on April 9, 2005 at 5:45 PM. Reason : yeah that new antistun,fear,poly trinket is really gay.]

4/9/2005 5:43:59 PM

Episode 6 of Purepwnage has the most amazing song about WoW I've ever heard hahaha
http://www.purepwnage.com/ (it's at the end i think)

4/9/2005 6:15:49 PM

Quote :

"Seduction (Succubus) - Is now considered a Fear effect for purposes of diminishing returns."

When the gay did this happen?

p.s. Is there much of a use for the Felhunter? It seems pretty worthless to me still, but maybe I'm just a n00b. I vastly prefer void in solo and succy with a group.

4/9/2005 7:04:34 PM

Quote :

"1. Hunter pets dealing significantly less damage than before. This isn't intentional and we're looking into why it's happening."

for mr hunter from a blizz rep.


^ felhunter is a good pvp pet especially if ur demonology spec. if u spam paranoia he draws aggro (which isnt considered an exploit). this makes him taunt as good as VW, but he does about 4x the damage. this makes him a nice mix between succy dmg and vw hp/taunting. vs casters he has high resists too.

for pvp he can eat other ppls buffs and also eat fear/poly/other debilitating debuffs off of you. not to mention spell lock is very valuable against healer classes.

for solo pve id still take succubus and drain tank, but if ur not affliction he's the way to go id say.

p.s. he can tank lvl 56 elites in winterspring without getting hurt cuz they keep recasting frost shield.

4/9/2005 7:10:21 PM

I just got the +3% to hit scope from Molten Core. Dropped off Lucifron of all things lol. gg.

4/10/2005 1:18:37 AM

A friend just messaged me about this thread. In response to cyrion's explanation of felhunters, he expressed total disbelief that it made any sense.

spookyjon: it's funny because I know exactly what he's saying
friend: thats fucked up
spookyjon: okay, the felhunter is one of the demons a warlock can summon to fight shit
friend: no explanation needed
spookyjon: it's good when fighting other players, especially if you have specialized in summoning demons
spookyjon: if you use his spell, paranoia, a lot, everything will attack him
spookyjon: that means he is as good as the voidwalker, a different summoned demon, except that the felhunter does four times the amount of damage
friend: evern your explanation doesnt make sense!

4/10/2005 1:31:45 AM

i am having so much trouble leveling my lvl 26 druid

damn

4/10/2005 1:39:04 AM

Quote :

"Blizzard is also planning on changing the Hunter discription with this patch. Class Role (old) The Hunter is a vicious damage dealer. With their ability to pull extremely well and hit monsters hard from far away, they certainly help take down monsters more quickly. Their pets add to the damage count and can aid somewhat in managing monster aggro. The variety of traps allows the Hunter to control crowds to an extent, as well. The combination of their extreme range, decent damage, and trap capability, Hunters are the perfect pullers for any group. We're not telling you how to play the game - one of the fascinating practices of this genre is the ingenuity exercised by the players every day! Class Role (new) The Hunter is a worthless damage dealer. With their ability to pull as well as a warrior and hit monsters weakly while not as far away as mages, they are certainly no help in taking down monsters quickly. Their pets add nothing to the damage count and can aid somewhat in managing monster agro before they die in two seconds. The variety of traps allows the Hunter to run away when he sees any other class coming. The combination of their less-than-mage range, nerfed damage, and bugged skills, Hunters are the most useless class for any group. We're not telling you how to play the game - but seriously, don't play a hunter. One of the fascinating practices of this genre is that people are dumb enough to roll this class! "

4/10/2005 2:29:04 AM

im glad i quit this game while i could. the game got boring as hell. So static.......its all just a l33t competetion at the end.

all these console and pc games that are rushing out arent worth all you addicts ignoring.

4/10/2005 2:36:51 AM

^^hehe

4/10/2005 2:44:22 AM

This game is pretty good IMO. Up to lvl 10 Paladin. I'm having a lot of fun. Pretty cool for my first MMORPG.

4/10/2005 8:37:10 AM

Well I for one still love my Hunter. Granted I am on PvE and know that I can't stand toe-to-toe with other PCs at my level, but that's okay. I mostly like to solo anyways. I must say though that I have found that my pet tanks better than tanks. Every instance or party that I have been in, growl has kept the thing's attention and I have just used Mend Pet to keep it happy.

I am also thinking about respecing...again. At 40 I was hyped about Spirit Bond (the ability to have your pet heal you everytime it attacks). This works somewhat well, but then I thought about just doing first aid and carrying bandages with me. I am thinking about dumping the points into marksmenship and laying on the pain. Any thoughts?

Also, someone was selling a Hurricane last night (the higher Epic Bow, I have the first). They said it sold for 300g before I could even counter offer.

4/10/2005 8:48:05 AM

perfhaps if ur friend saw how worthless big blue was besides sacrifice he'd understand. ooh boy he hit for a whopping 12 again.

as far as hunters not doing any dmg, im sure they do an assload more than me versus chromatic dragons and other highly resistant mobs.

4/10/2005 11:59:29 AM

incorrect.

after patch ranged damage hit rate is based on defense so on heavily armored pcs and mobs we miss over half our shots.

4/10/2005 12:17:29 PM