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I don't think it's any wonder that folks run from police when you can die during a routine traffic stop, die in custody, or die in your cell. I think it's completely understandable that folks might take their chances on fleeing

10/19/2015 2:17:16 PM

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-shot-and-killed-by-policeman-in-florida-as-he-waited-by-car-a6701321.html

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"Huntsberger said he called roadside assistance for his bandmate and then, at about 2:30 a.m, left to head home while Jones waited for the tow truck.

About 45 minutes later, Jones was dead — shot and killed by a police officer.

“When I left him he was sitting in his car calling roadside assistance,” Huntsberger said. “I never would have thought that someone was going to come kill him.”

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10/20/2015 9:55:48 PM

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Hell yeah, this is how to treat a student!

https://www.facebook.com/aisha.thomas.35/videos/10153776356965407

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"***UPDATE: Response from Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott:

On the record the SRO was acting in response to a student disrupting the class.
The student refused to comply to directions of the teacher and school administrator to leave the class.

When she refused the SRO was requested to take action.
The student was told she was under arrest for disturbing school and given instructions which she again refused. The video then shows the student resisting and being arrested by the SRO.***"


http://www.newsweek.com/south-carolina-school-investigating-video-female-student-being-wrestled-down-387485

10/26/2015 6:29:43 PM

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that really didn't look too bad. she should've gotten the fuck up.

10/27/2015 12:53:08 AM

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inorite

10/27/2015 2:14:01 AM

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just drag her desk into the hallway and carry on if she is being disruptive

10/27/2015 8:09:38 AM

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Just keep in mind, it is the #BLM movement that is creating creating distrust and ill- will towards the police. It couldn't possibly be shit like this, running unchecked for years, that causes a rift between the public and the community they serve.

10/27/2015 8:26:07 AM

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the "ferguson effect" is going to get people killed, the FBI and JCE2011 told me so

10/27/2015 8:44:32 AM

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No other country in the world can boast that kind of thing happening in a school.

I am really shocked.

Seriously, that's what some schools have come down to? Cops assaulting children during class for disobedience???How is that even approved/allowed to happen? That's God damn shocking for me. Seems like this is something not so unusual in the US, but I find it highly ..??.. can't even find the right word.

10/27/2015 8:46:35 AM

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Surprised he did not just shoot her.

10/27/2015 9:04:19 AM

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Two incidents come to mind when I first saw this. Both from high school.

1. Gym class. We had already dressed back into our street clothes after class, and were all just shooting the basketball around until the Bell actually rung. A student, jokingly came up behind one of our coaches (both really nice people) and bear hugged him. The coach yelled out in pain, "ahhhh, quit it. I have a bad back!". The kid let go, and took off running across the gym floor. The coach picked up a basketball, threw it at the kid, and pegged him in the back of the head....knocking him to the ground.
The coach was fired.

2. Football practice. After changing into our pads for practice, we all still had to walk to the practice field. The coach just drove his car. There was a single, narrow, dirt path to get to the field which we all shared. Now, usually we would all move to the side to let the coach pass. But one kid, being a dick, walked slowly down the middle of the road, in order to block the coach. What did the coach do? He nudged him with the front bumper.
The coach was fired.

Violence of any sort should not be acceptable against students unless they themselves are acting in a violent manner. This resource officer should be held to the same standard.

10/27/2015 9:08:00 AM

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I didn't think that was assault. He had to get her out of the desk, her leg got caught she flailed, and the desk flipped. He pulled her the rest of the way out and cuffed her. If he punched and kicked her, that would be a different story. You can't just scoot someone's desk that easily...she looks pretty heavy and it's not like she was a 9 year old child. Hopefully she can take this as a teaching moment and learn some respect for her SRO's, her classmates, and her teachers. I'm sure her injuries would've been much worse if it were a nun slapping her hands with a ruler. This looks to be a non-story.

10/27/2015 9:17:25 AM

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Seems like he would have expended much less energy by turning her desk around and dragging her out backwards through the door.

10/27/2015 9:38:48 AM

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He could have also enticed her out of the door with a trail of candy on the floor.

[Edited on October 27, 2015 at 9:47 AM. Reason : you srsly think she would have let him drag her out?]

10/27/2015 9:47:05 AM

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I have no reason to believe otherwise. From everything I've seen and read, her position was non- violent non- compliance. From her disobedience of not participating in class, to her disobedience of sitting in her chair when she was told to leave.... It doesn't sound like she raised a fist or foot to anyone.



But it sounds to me that you are more than willing to justify the cop's behavior by what this 5'6 female coulda woulda done. Sounds an awful lot like "I'm justified in beating this guy up cause he looks dangerous, and he back talked me".

[Edited on October 27, 2015 at 10:02 AM. Reason : Hh]

10/27/2015 9:54:09 AM

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Back in the day when kids were little shits they got backhanded by the teacher or hit with a paddle or ruler and people didn't think twice about it and the rest of the kids quickly learned to not be assholes. Now kids pretty much know if anyone lays a hand on them they can just sue them or get them fired so now you have schools full of little shits who aren't willing to listen to anyone because their parents don't care and they are pretty much the only ones who can enforce any reasonable punishment. I feel for teachers who have to put up with that sort of stuff every single day because I know I couldn't.

10/27/2015 9:56:20 AM

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Being a schools resource officer has to be the worst assignment in law enforcement.

In other news, I found two 12 year kids walking down a busy drag around 1:30 am the other night. One of the kids asked me, "Am I being detained or am I free to leave?"

10/27/2015 11:33:56 AM

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Our school resource officer was awesome. Like, seriously cool dude. We didnt exactly have much tomfuckery at my high school though.

I remember one kid brought pot brownies in one morning for all the ladies who worked in the front office. They were almost all devoured when they noticed the pot. HA.

[Edited on October 27, 2015 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .]

10/27/2015 11:45:53 AM

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"I didn't think that was assault. He had to get her out of the desk, her leg got caught she flailed, and the desk flipped. He pulled her the rest of the way out and cuffed her. If he punched and kicked her, that would be a different story."

after she is out of the desk he throws her

but he could have just dragged her desk out to the hallway, or rather the teacher could have instead of calling a cop

10/27/2015 12:35:44 PM

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""Am I being detained or am I free to leave?""


well?

10/27/2015 1:28:49 PM

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""Am I being detained or am I free to leave?" "


oh no, one of the passive, submissive sheep actually knew their rights. I bet that just steams you pigs

10/27/2015 1:33:52 PM

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Lol. Yes, I let I let two 12 year old wonder down the main drag of an urban city at 1:30 in the morning. Not like I have a duty to check on their welfare or anything.

[Edited on October 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM. Reason : Ipad]

10/27/2015 1:54:16 PM

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and they were apparently fine and asked if they were being detained, so no need to get pissy about it

10/27/2015 2:01:18 PM

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I don't think there was violence. Sometimes verbal cues don't work, so physical cues are required. I'm justifying his actions based on her non-compliance. Her unwillingness to cooperate doesn't lead me to believe that she would have cooperated with him scooting her out of the room. End of the day, she'll be fine.

10/27/2015 2:22:18 PM

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"Back in the day when kids were little shits they got backhanded by the teacher or hit with a paddle or ruler and people didn't think twice about it and the rest of the kids quickly learned to not be assholes. Now kids pretty much know if anyone lays a hand on them they can just sue them or get them fired so now you have schools full of little shits who aren't willing to listen to anyone because their parents don't care and they are pretty much the only ones who can enforce any reasonable punishment. I feel for teachers who have to put up with that sort of stuff every single day because I know I couldn't."


This 100%. Part of the pussification of America.

I haven't heard the audio from the video or seen any other facts released so I'm yet sure what the whole story is, but judging from the lack of reaction (visual at least) from the students the student must have been really forcing the cop to get physical. My problem is that when it is a male cop arresting a female, that is way too violent even if she is passively resisting. That bitch got slammed like a ragdoll.

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"Just keep in mind, it is the #BLM movement that is creating creating distrust and ill- will towards the police. "


To some extent it does, but mainly #BLM just causes division and perpetuates the victim mindset through false narratives thanks to the liberal media.

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". It couldn't possibly be shit like this, running unchecked for years, that causes a rift between the public and the community they serve."


I mean if this video constitutes "shit like this" where someone doesn't listen to a cop and bad stuff happens, who cares? If a thug attacks a cop and dies... who cares? The only reason this is even on the news is because its white cop on black suspect.

Black Lives Matter, only when a white cop pulls the trigger...Or when we can use it for political gain (George Soros/Hilary Clinton).

10/27/2015 2:30:29 PM

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OMG....this goes all the way up to the highest levels of government!!!

10/27/2015 3:47:19 PM

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"He had to get her out of the desk"

No. No he didn't. Why do you see her being in the desk as a threat to public safety?

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"Part of the pussification of America."

It really takes talent to endorse child abuse with a sexist term.

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"where someone doesn't listen to a cop and bad stuff happens, who cares? "

Cops are not supposed to have unlimited power over citizens. Some people think we live in a fascist society and actually want totalitarian policing in these situations. I find that strange since it goes against the laws of almost every modern nation.

10/27/2015 7:17:27 PM

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"Cops are not supposed to have unlimited power over citizens."


Unlimited power? What a joke. The teacher asked the student to leave. The assistant principle asked the student to leave. A cop came and asked the student to leave. She resisted a less violent removal by holding onto the desk.

God forbid students respect rules, teachers, principals, and cops. Oh wait, the student was black. RACISM!!!!!

10/27/2015 7:52:58 PM

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Grab the desk and drag the desk, bitch and all out into the hall. No need for a take down. Stupid cop did stupid thing.

10/27/2015 7:54:12 PM

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And now he's suspended without pay for doing that stupid thing.

10/27/2015 8:04:49 PM

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no, he's suspended because he was filmed doing that very stupid thing. No camera, no suspension and certainly no winnable lawsuit against the cop, the school district, and the city/county.

I'm so glad cell phone cameras are ubiquitous.

10/27/2015 8:06:37 PM

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I'm so glad cops are ubiquitous so assholes have to respect rules and authority

10/27/2015 8:12:23 PM

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First of all, you can't do this type of thing in front of all of these children. If you watch the video, the desk leg comes up and hits another student's laptop or it could have impaled that student. Why is the cell phone an issue when most students are on laptops? The administrators should be suspended for not being able to handle this situation in the first place.

Leave the student in the chair at least until the classroom is empty and then have a psychologist come and talk her out of the chair. Violence should never be used as discipline against a child unless someone is in danger.

10/27/2015 8:17:28 PM

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"The administrators should be suspended for not being able to handle this situation in the first place."


It is ANYONE's fault except for the "infallible victim".

Hell, it isn't her fault she disrupted class, didn't listen to the teacher, the principal, the cop, its the fault of society right? Its the classroom rule's fault. It was Apple's fault for designing such an entertaining phone. It's the classes fault for getting distracted by it. It's the teacher's fault for enforcing rules and trying to do her job.

10/27/2015 11:10:12 PM

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No one said the student did no wrong. The school needs to do its job and deal with poor class participation in a way that doesn't involve body slamming children.

In all of these stories about police, there seem to be people who argue the victim "had it coming" for doing anything wrong. You give the police a free pass to do whatever they want as long as a law was broken. That is the definition of excessive force.

10/27/2015 11:28:27 PM

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its pretty clear, she shouldnt have run. If i were her parents I would thank them for teaching my child how to behave.

10/27/2015 11:33:41 PM

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yo troll, imma let you finish, but this mug had the best desk video of all time 2015

10/27/2015 11:40:23 PM

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" administrators should be suspended for not being able to handle this situation in the first place.

Leave the student in the chair at least until the classroom is empty and then have a psychologist come and talk her out of the chair. Violence should never be used as discipline against a child unless someone is in danger.

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E man must be trolling....

Sometimes I wander if schools would be better if teachers could spank bad kids again...

10/28/2015 2:19:36 AM

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Your BADY is a WANDERLAND

10/28/2015 2:26:20 AM

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"Niya Kenny [also black] was taken into custody and held on $1,000 bail for 'disturbing school' after filming Senior Deputy Ben Fields as he overturned a student's desk with her still in it. "


What the fuck???

Is that shit even legal?

And LOL at the sheriff's office saying the pig has a black gf as defense against the allegation that he is racist

10/28/2015 7:02:08 AM

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^He has to defend himself from racial accusations preemptively just because of this liberal media's "racist until proven not racist" climate.

And of course it's legal. You are disobeying school officials and a police at the expense of 30 other students who are obeying the rules. You are then resisting police orders/arrest.

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"I don't think it's any wonder that folks run from police when you can die during a routine traffic stop, die in custody, or die in your cell. I think it's completely understandable that folks might take their chances on fleeing"


I missed this absurdly idiotic quote at the top. The statistically nonexistent chance of dying from a routine stop in no way makes it "understandable" to flee. Fleeing is what escalates routine stops into situations that could lead to death. I think it is sad that anyone would think fleeing from the cops is justified because of the liberal media's spin on a few criminals getting shot (because they were non compliant).

[Edited on October 28, 2015 at 9:46 AM. Reason : .]

10/28/2015 9:40:41 AM

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DUDE

READ

Niya Kenny [also black] was taken into custody and held on $1,000 bail for 'disturbing school' after filming Senior Deputy Ben Fields

IS THAT LEGAL???

Not talking about cops assaulting non-violent students in school, we have established US is the only country where that is legal


[Edited on October 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ]

10/28/2015 9:42:24 AM

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She wasn't arrested for recording, she was arrested for screaming shit at the cop as he was arresting her.

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10/28/2015 9:50:30 AM

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It baffles me how some of you can accept and even gleefully endorse the militarization of schools.

If schools have to resort to using cops using violent force on students because they are being non-violently disobedient, society has failed, at some or multiple levels.

This does not happen in any other country.

10/28/2015 10:10:30 AM

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society has failed in the sense that her parents are to blame, and not the cop.

10/28/2015 10:13:27 AM

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"it could have impaled that student."


but it didn't. lets remove stairs from schools because students could fall too.

10/28/2015 10:16:51 AM

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" the militarization of schools."


lmao. "militarization".

It baffles me how some of you expect an entire classroom and school staff to bend over backwards and cater to a student deliberately misbehaving.

Just like the Ahmed bomb hoax, we all know this is only an "issue" because the race of the "victim". As always, it doesn't matter what actually happened, as long as the "victim" is a minority it supports the false-narrative.

10/28/2015 10:23:37 AM

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"UDE

READ

Niya Kenny [also black] was taken into custody and held on $1,000 bail for 'disturbing school' after filming Senior Deputy Ben Fields

IS THAT LEGAL??"


I agrees that it doesn't seem legal and I disagree from the arrest from what I have heard. As aaronburro discussed in the other thread no one is denying their is a very real issue with police using excessive violence against civilians and a problem with police brutality. I think many hard core trump fan libertarians would join this camp.

When you start framing this as a "racial" issue when there is no evidence to support this then you completely lose credibility to many folks that may help protest the issue.

From the video I see a stubborn obstinate little brat and a hot head dick cop. What I don't see is a racist cop that wants to beat up black people because he hates N*g$3rs.

BTW I don't agree with militarization of schools but in some districts I could see why officials don't have a choice. AKa places like inner city LA with lots of gang violence and issues with thugs bringing weapons and drugs onto school grounds

[Edited on October 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM. Reason : G]

10/28/2015 10:38:47 AM

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"And now he's suspended without pay for doing that stupid thing."

no way

10/28/2015 10:40:33 AM

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I am not even American. I would have said the same thing if it was a 200 lb white male student athlete. I am color-blind, I don't give a shit about skin color, language, ethnicity, or citizenship.

10/28/2015 10:49:32 AM

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