afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
I'm drinking Corona on Cinco de Mayo 3/5/2020 9:50:34 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
3/5/2020 10:40:09 AM |
BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114363 Posts user info edit post |
^^it's Marcho tho bro :3 3/5/2020 10:54:53 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Y'all are screwed
https://twitter.com/PeterGleick/status/1235461595813339136
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-really-have-coronavirus/607348/ 3/5/2020 11:40:17 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/coronavirus-patient-in-spain-reportedly-recovers-after-being-treated-with-hiv-drug/
3/5/2020 12:08:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Cant remember where (I assume China?), but they have already been using those drugs for a few weeks with some promising results 3/5/2020 12:20:54 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I guess they have ways to tell if it is a recovery was due to the HIV drugs rather than just a normal recovery. 3/5/2020 12:26:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I would think so... I think it's called "science" 3/5/2020 1:35:59 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
I've been buttchugging Lysol, feeling great. 3/5/2020 2:12:52 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
done over a month ago in thailand; posted on page 2
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2020/02/02/thai-doctors-say-they-cured-patient-of-coronavirus-in-48-hours 3/5/2020 2:15:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Disastrous day for S. Korea, Italy, Iran, and Germany: See first few lines in table:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus
3/5/2020 2:59:42 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8780 Posts user info edit post |
China is obviously suppressing their data 3/5/2020 3:07:32 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Add James Bond to the list of victims." |
No Time to Die is postponed to be released till Thanksgiving. Damn, that hurts.
[Edited on March 5, 2020 at 3:10 PM. Reason : Maybe Christmas]3/5/2020 3:09:02 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
233 c, 14 d
stay safe bros
(probably several hundred cases, if not thousands, those are just the known ones because very few testing kits in the US -- must read: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-really-have-coronavirus/607348 ) 3/6/2020 3:56:16 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Germany's cases tripled in one day. Seems like this is going to or has spread to all of Europe now. 3/6/2020 7:39:46 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
What are the possible outcomes if we can't eliminate it like we eliminated SARS-CoV? It could become endemic in humans like the other 4 coronaviruses endemic in us. Or, it could become a seasonal pandemic, like the seasonal flu.
Excellent read:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/04/two-scenarios-if-new-coronavirus-isnt-contained/
^ Doubled, and Iran added 1,234 cases today... that's a third as much of all cases the prior day
[Edited on March 6, 2020 at 8:15 AM. Reason : ] 3/6/2020 8:13:35 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
It's not going to be contained. This thing was going global by the end of January because of the long incubation time and the inability to properly detect asymptomatic carriers. The one thing of the Chinese worker that infected 8 of her co-workers at a conference in Germany was so damning to me. 1, 2, perhaps even 3, fine, but 8? You're not containing this.
My overarching problem is we as a society are not built to react to this rationally. 5 people can die in a car crash or 2 people can get shot and this will literally make the national news. Tragedy, sure, but these are not national interest-level stories. It's absurd to me people are hand-waving off numbers of say 50 thousand dying in a country like "that's what the flu kills every year" when we have a record for many many years of sensationalizing deaths in the single digits. We're not going to be able to do the shutdown of society/quarantine/jail in your own home that the Chinese did to kill the infection rate because their society is under far more control by the government than ours is and people here just will not accept that. So that means it's going to spread. Sucks for you Washington State.
And we're not even talking about the ancillary reactions to this that have nothing to deal with the virus per se, such as the stock market getting killed, the transportation system getting killed (airlines' financial books at the moment must be brutal), a lot of sports events are getting cancelled. The NCAA men's basketball tournament has games in Spokane in 2 weeks. I'll be surprised if fans are in attendance there. If this continues as present, the Olympics aren't being held. That's seriously going to fuck over the Japanese government who spent all this money on infrastructure for the event, and domestically would kill NBC's bottom line.
[Edited on March 6, 2020 at 9:15 AM. Reason : /] 3/6/2020 9:04:53 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
We already have a lot of cases in the US, we just arent able to test people to identify them. In WA there is a nurse who helped a coronavirus patient who is sick but the CDC won't test her. 3/6/2020 9:13:38 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "China is obviously suppressing their data" |
I expect the real number will be 100 times more than they reported. Probably millions of Chinese will die.3/6/2020 9:40:48 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Case in Chatham County, travelled back from Italy after having symptoms 3/6/2020 10:36:24 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ but what if it does have the seasonality of the flu 3/6/2020 11:16:10 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Then we learn to live with it. 3/6/2020 11:21:36 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ The authority did expect to see more local cases. 3/6/2020 11:28:18 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Damn
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/worst-yet-come-nomura-now-sees-many-15-million-coronavirus-cases-june 3/6/2020 12:04:51 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
The run on grocery stores apparently included garlic in addition to toilet paper.
WTF people? 3/6/2020 2:31:37 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
It's a viable alternative. 3/6/2020 2:38:16 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
If that's the case, I've been using toilet paper wrong all this time. 3/6/2020 2:57:46 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Garlic is antiviral, as are some other vegetables. Lots of produce is also good for immunity.
I suppose it makes sense to eat more such foods during such a time.
Whether they will make any measurable difference in symptom severity and illness duration, I don't know.
Even where I am, supermarkets have been placing prominent signs next to oranges since late Jan touting their vitamin C levels and immunity-strengthening properties. 3/6/2020 3:53:50 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Garlic and onions in your socks suck out the toxins 3/6/2020 4:28:35 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ I know man... I tried it with onion slices inside socks as I slept... the onion slices were BLACK in the morning!!! So many toxins came out of my body and I woke up revitalized and felt like a new man!!!! 3/6/2020 5:11:12 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lol naw man. Shit on the west coast is the tip of the spear. Think there will be a new case announced in the greater Massachusetts early next week and the hits will keep coming." |
We are already very lucky. 2 by far. Look at New York, Texas or Illinois.3/6/2020 6:48:26 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8780 Posts user info edit post |
PM me for deeeeep discounts on your next flight and cruise 3/6/2020 6:49:16 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Plus the garlic is a good defense in case of vampires. 3/6/2020 7:02:02 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26099 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " If this continues as present, the Olympics aren't being held. That's seriously going to fuck over the Japanese government who spent all this money on infrastructure for the event, and domestically would kill NBC's bottom line." |
No. NBC has insurance for if the Olympics are canceled.3/6/2020 7:30:14 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
In the last 24 hours we added new cases in seven states that previously had none. The total number of states with infected people is now at 28 vs 22 without, so over half the states in the country have active cases. 3/7/2020 7:39:12 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26099 Posts user info edit post |
Let's just shut everything down and take a monthlong national holiday where everyone stays at home. Problem solved?] 3/7/2020 8:27:37 AM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let's just take a monthlong national holiday. Problem solved?" |
With or without pay? Because both of those could cause some serious problems.3/7/2020 8:29:46 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
An investigative journalist was able to figure out that, at least as of a few days ago, we had tested <2000 people 3/7/2020 8:30:01 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26099 Posts user info edit post |
^^Bernie will pay everyone. 3/7/2020 9:47:33 AM |
PaulISdead All American 8780 Posts user info edit post |
So what's the lag time between reporting and actual sickness? 3/7/2020 12:19:54 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
2-14 days. Thats what makes this the trickiest one yet. Its a lot more contagious than it is infectious which allows a seemingly healthy person to spread it to several people before getting sick.
The other outbreaks had shorter incubation periods and were more infectious. With ebola, it was harder to spread it because people were so sick or dead when they had it.
Theres probably 10,000 plus cases already in the US. We just don't have the means to measure it like the first world countries. 3/7/2020 1:17:08 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Guy at the liquor store said people are buying high proof alcohol to disinfect things, thats an expensive way to do it 3/7/2020 4:14:46 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8780 Posts user info edit post |
Im just stockpiling ammunition, nothing crazy 3/7/2020 4:46:23 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
OMG, really scary [secret] numbers by the Hospital Association. 100 million infections and 1/2 million dead in the US when it is over.
Are you living in the US? Then read these two:
https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-preparing-for-millions-of-hospitalizations-2020-3
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236095180459003909.html 3/7/2020 5:08:48 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Those numbers aren't really secret. Theres a 2% death rate. Its math that millions are going to die.
H1N1 had 70 million global cases in 1 year and only had a 1-4 day incubation period. That would have been 1.4 million dead if it had the same mortality.
The thing is. COVID-19 is spreading much more rapidly than H1N1.
[Edited on March 7, 2020 at 5:43 PM. Reason : people had less time to unknowingly spread h1n1] 3/7/2020 5:41:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "100 million infections and 1/2 million dead in the US when it is over." |
so 0.5% mortality rate? not bad3/7/2020 6:45:20 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
It seems to be avoiding poor countries. At first, I wondered if this was because poorer countries are mostly in warm areas (Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Lao, Cambodia) but then when I look at Europe there are a lot less cases in Poland and Romania which are cold. South America and Africa all with small numbers of cases as well.
Then I wanted to think that these countries have less travel which means less chances to bring it in but I feel like the upper middle class in these countries travel internationally EVEN MORE just to get access to luxuries and business connections not available at home.
My strongest theory is that the wealthy countries like Korea, Italy, France, Germany, and Japan are just better at diagnosing it but that doesn't explain Iran.
Has this trend been acknowledged/figured out?
[Edited on March 8, 2020 at 4:34 PM. Reason : if you're white collar in Romania, you're constantly traveling] 3/8/2020 4:33:58 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
No cases in N Korea yet! 3/8/2020 5:36:16 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Nearly 1,500 new cases and 133 deaths in Italy in just one day! 3/8/2020 5:52:12 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Yes, usually the developed countries/1st&2nd-world countries are the victims. Same as Ebola right? 3/8/2020 6:22:00 PM |