synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I haven't upgraded my PC at home in nearly 6 years, and all of a sudden i'm itching for at least a new CPU." |
well you dont HAVE to upgrade, you can always install the client as a service on other machines... 3/25/2008 3:17:48 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Support Cancer Research and the NCSU Wolfpack With Your Computer's Idle Time!
What Is It? Essentially Folding@Home uses your unused CPU cycles to model how proteins fold in the human body. The misfolding of proteins is often involved in well known diseases, such as Alzheimer’s, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson’s disease. Because this endeavor requires massive amounts of computing power, their project uses spare CPU time on computers that would otherwise sit idle in homes and businesses across the world. Here at North Carolina State University, we have formed this team in order to donate our spare CPU time to help this important endeavor.
The North Carolina State University Folding@Home Team (Team # 59) was one of the first teams to join the Folding@Home project, and was the very first University-based team to join. We are currently ranked in the Top 100 teams in the world and are ramping up production in an effort to make it into the Top 50. We are all dedicated to doing our part to help end some of these terrible diseases, and we would appreciate the support of anyone who would like to help.
All it takes is the installation of a small piece of software and your computer will start completing Work Units for the project and the team. The Folding@Home process runs at the lowest possible priority so you can run it 24X7 without slowing down your computer or interfering with your everyday computing tasks. If you have a Sony PS3 Game Console you can also run Folding@Home on it with great results.
How can I Help? Download and install the software appropriate for your OS (Windows/Linux/Mac). For dual/quad core computers, be sure you install the SMP client. It will get you and the NCSU team far more points than the traditional client. Whichever client you choose, we recommend running the Folding@Home client as a service. The client will run in the background without notification, and will release CPU resources as needed since it runs at the lowest priority. The NCSU Team Number is 59.
Visit the team homepage for detailed installation instructions
Windows Computers We recommend using the "text-only console” client for most windows computers. If you have a dual/quad core processor, be sure to install and run the SMP client to get you and the team far more points than the standard console client In general, its best to stay away from the graphical clients. If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how. Feel free to post in this thread with any questions. Mac and Linux Computers There are both "text-only" consoles and SMP clients for Linux and Macintosh computers too! If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor be sure to run the SMP client as you'll get far more points than the text-only client. But the regular console clients also help out too if you only have single-core processors.
Playstation 3 PS3s currently provide over 60% of the processing power in the Folding@home network and are capable of producing many points for the team. If you have PS3 system version 1.6 or later, you will see a Folding@Home icon in the Network column of the XMB (PS3 Networking menu). Just click on the icon and that's it. If you don't have 1.6 or later, perform a system upgrade. Make sure to use Team #59!
The more computers and PS3s you run the clients on, the more points your username and the NCSU team earns! Install as many clients as you can and watch your username/team progress at the stats page
Links
Team Links Official NCSU F@H Team Website - Tell your friends people. It's ncsufolding.com NCSU F@H Team Discussion - This page. NCSU F@H Team Facebook Group - Join our facebook group!
F@H Links F@H Project Homepage - Official Stanford project webpage F@H Official Forums - Official Project forums. Full of great information about the project and the computer/ps3 clients F@H Wikipedia Article - General information about the F@H project F@H Wiki Site - Excellent Wiki site with tons of helpful information about the project. Geared towards F@H users like us. Stats Extreme Overclocking NCSU Team Stats Page - The best F@H stats site Stanford Stats Page - Official Stanford stats site Monitor your production - Extremely useful little utility. Monitor the point production of local/network F@H clients Compare your production with other users - Use information from above to compare your points production with other folders]
3/25/2008 3:18:15 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
so i let it run overnight with the pc locked and it just posted "timered checkpoint triggered" all night and no progress on the WU. It does show my CPU at 100% but no progress since yesterday
as soon as i write that it posts 54%
I didn't think locking the computer suspended processes? I know you can continue playing mp3's and such when locked...
[Edited on March 26, 2008 at 7:02 AM. Reason : .] 3/26/2008 7:01:20 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I didn't think locking the computer suspended processes?" |
it doesn't. u say its at 54%...when did you start working on that WU. I think a Q6600 should chew through most workunits in under a day3/26/2008 7:56:10 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Was at 40% at 16:53 yesterday, hit 53% at 21:14, hit 54% at 12:01 3/26/2008 7:57:44 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Q6600 for $180 GO, GO, GO !!!!!!!!!!!
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5101696 3/26/2008 3:12:00 PM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Ahhhhhhhh they are sold out. It figures the one day I dont check the forums I miss out on another 2000ppd.
On a side note, im in the top 25 now! 3/27/2008 6:37:48 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
if you're looking for another proc this 45nm C2D E8400 doesn't look like a slouch, sounds like people are getting ~3000PPD with it and its only $200 http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=780728
oh and if you're really after a q6600 micro has them for $199 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257938] 3/27/2008 7:43:45 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Well I currently have an e6600 getting me ~2100ppd so the e8500 (a $200 CPU at ~3000) wouldnt be that much more compared to a q6600 running two instances (a $180 CPU at ~4000).
After thinking it over I guess its a good thing I missed the sale. I know folding is for a good cause and all but I spent way to much money on my PC when I built it a year ago. Plus my mobo is known for having issues with the newer processors so it would probably cost me more in the long run. 3/27/2008 8:04:22 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wouldnt be that much more compared to a q6600 running two instances (a $180 CPU at ~4000). " |
i assume you'd be OC'ing the hell out of the Q6600 huh? I'm running two instances of ubuntu and only getting ~3100PPD . But thats no overclocking... And I wasn't able to run two SMP instances under vista without errors. but thats was just me, i'm sure it possible]3/27/2008 8:37:14 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
I have seen some q6600 getting 4400ppd on some forums. My friend (ELEMENT) has a new q6600 G0 that runs 3.6ghz easy. And is benchable up to 3.825Ghz. I wish he would run FAH 24/7 like us but he is a die hard minimalist when it comes to programs running on his computer. Anyway I figured I would want the q6600 at 3.6GHz to get ~4000ppd. I assumed the e8500 was overclocked to ~4.0Ghz to get the 3000ppd you posted earlier. If not, thats one sweet cpu to get that many points for only running 3.0Ghz. 3/27/2008 9:54:34 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah its a definite overclock @4GHz to get that 3K PPD.
if you wait a month of two i'm sure the price on those q6600's will continue to drop from the $200 they're at now 3/27/2008 10:08:43 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
my experience between the E6600 & E8400:
E6600 @ 2.4 = 1350 ppd E6600 @ 3.6 = 1800 ppd E8400 @ 3.0 = 1900 ppd E8400 @ 3.6 = 2148 ppd
i'd love to know how you're getting 2100 ppd on an E6600 3/27/2008 10:57:25 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
i love to look back at posts 4 years ago: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=118820&page=11#4342426
lol, 1,000 points per week.... nice! 3/27/2008 11:12:08 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
I thought an e6600 at 3.6 gave ~2100 all day every day. Im not doing anything special. Its my old win XP with lots of junk on it, including the Afinity Changer. I have noticed that depending on the WU it does fluctuate a little. For the new 1440 point WU I have seen ~1900ppd where the normal smp 1760 point WU gives me ~2100ppd.
Maybe I get ~2100 because my FSB might be faster than yours???? For 3.6Ghz on my 680i, I use a multiplier of 8 with FSB of 450 giving me a ddr2-900 (4.4.4.12) ratio. The easier overclocking timings for 3.6Ghz are multi of 9, FSB 400, and ddr2-800 (4.4.4.12). 3/27/2008 11:53:54 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
very well could be, here was my E6600 setup.... I'm now on a OC'd E8400 at home and a stock E6850 at work
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=192647
i had the memory to go higher (1066) but i had a P6N SLI board, not the platinum board that had the copper HS on the northbridge, so while i could go up to 425mhz, it couldn't reach 450mhz.
here's my E8400 now: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=303615 notice it's the same 9*400, but with ddr2-900 speeds (still with my ddr2-1066 memory), i'm sure i can go higher, this was just the most stable OC without voltage increase
[Edited on March 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM. Reason : ,] 3/27/2008 12:20:00 PM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
I have a question for you guys who have been around for a while. How is it that the trend line on the chart from extremeoverclocking.com has our points and active users going down for the past month but we will produce more points and WUs this month than ever before? 3/28/2008 8:12:29 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
the trend line is all about our 24 hours PPD average...which has gone down. we were nearing 70K PPD 24hr average, and we dropped to below 60KPPD avg, so the trend line is thinking we're going to continue dropping our average. if we keep 60k for a while it will flatten out, or if we increase back up to 70k it will be a positive slope (lets try for that k?)
and our current shitty 24hr average is why our overtake table looks really bad...with us actually going down the ladder for the first time in a long time.] 3/28/2008 8:31:13 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
well i took over the Xeon 5160 box again for 4 days or so... should be another ~2500ppd for the next couple days
trying to get to 3rd place before GallowsPole passes me. i've been trying for a long time.
[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 1:02 PM. Reason : .] 3/28/2008 1:01:06 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "should be another ~2500ppd for the next couple days" |
gg!
Quote : | "trying to get to 3rd place before GallowsPole passes me. i've been trying for a long time." |
you should be able to get to 3rd and stay there for at least a month before i catch up with you
i didn't realize i'll be in 3rd place in ~2 months...thats pretty cool. But it'll take me like 2 years to get into 2nd place 3/28/2008 2:13:36 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
We've made it to #82!!!!!!!!!
but we'll be diving soon after if dont pick up some ]3/28/2008 2:14:06 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
i should have known it was you since there isn't a synapse on our team.
#82 is one less than our previous best (81)... keep pushing people! this is still a great accomplishment
we're still breaking records: 03.08 1,725,571 4,243 02.08 1,720,775 3,947 01.08 1,638,396 4,063 12.07 1,511,956 3,295 11.07 1,545,964 3,280
[Edited on March 28, 2008 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .] 3/28/2008 2:46:15 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "#82 is one less than our previous best (81)... keep pushing people! this is still a great accomplishment" |
i was thinking 82 was our best3/28/2008 3:00:35 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
anyone know what the 5.92 update is all about?
are they gonna expire our 5.91 smp clients anytime soon? 3/28/2008 4:49:49 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
No, I saw that yesterday and didn't install it b/c I hadn't noticed anything wrong with 5.91...
#81 came from this post: /message_topic.aspx?topic=118820&page=57#11297717 3/28/2008 5:05:41 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
Information on diskless folding: http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/
reposted from an earlier page 3/28/2008 10:17:26 PM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
^ Good idea to repost. I added it to the ncsufolding site. 3/29/2008 11:02:27 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 3/30/2008 6:37:05 PM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
Last month was a record month for both points and WUs. Now lets try to top 2 MILLION points this month.
Last 7 Months Production Month Points WUs 03.08 1,933,333 4,839 02.08 1,720,775 3,947 01.08 1,638,396 4,063 12.07 1,511,956 3,295 11.07 1,545,964 3,280 10.07 1,408,637 3,325 09.07 1,230,736 2,852
On a side note, I am going out of town for the next week and I hope the farm will stay running while I am gone. 4/1/2008 8:20:07 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
for some reason my two vmware linux clients stopped working...i'm gonna try one vn ubuntu smp client and one host os vista client, with the affinity changer running in vista 4/1/2008 11:04:57 AM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
My linux box died yesterday, won't have time to fix until later this week I think 4/1/2008 11:13:52 AM |
DiscProdiG All American 1106 Posts user info edit post |
MY Q6600 box won't turn on anymore. Was working fine when I got home yesterday, but turned off between 7 and 9 and wouldn't come back on. Doesn't even try to. 4/1/2008 12:02:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^u mean it won't power on at all? have you checked the power supply?
[Edited on April 1, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : ^] 4/1/2008 12:07:48 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, I just mean it shut itself off and isn't responding ... I gotta get into the closet and reboot it or something. But for it to have hung and/or powered itself off voluntarily would be amazing. 4/1/2008 12:28:42 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
great deals on quads today:
Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9450 (OEM) $306 http://slickdeals.net/?permadeal=12154#direct_deal_12154
AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Retail) + Antec Nine Hundred Gaming Tower PC Case $219 http://slickdeals.net/?permadeal=12153#direct_deal_12153
[Edited on April 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM. Reason : .] 4/7/2008 11:15:47 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
so i'm getting ~900 PPD on my CoreDuo proc with these new 2144 point work units
oh and if anyone wants to help out the cause and sell me 512MB or 1GB of laptop DDR2 memory, I've got another CoreDuo machine I can add to the team. pm me if you have something 4/7/2008 4:01:12 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Q6600 for under $200!! 4/7/2008 8:14:00 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5101696 4/7/2008 9:23:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
we need to swing this pendulum back around and at least maintain out ranking instead of dropping.
you guys think we can we get our 24hr average back up to 70kPPD? i think thats a goal we should shoot for.
there's gotta be some more computers we can install clients on!! work PCs, parents, roommates, friends, girlfriends etc.... lets make it happen people!!!
i'm taking steps to get back to 5-6kPPD. anyone wanna join me?
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59] 4/8/2008 10:34:52 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
i know it's a bad week (for the team) when i'm the #2 producer i'm doing my best to stay above 3k PPD.
[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason : /] 4/8/2008 10:54:04 AM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
I'm busy, will get my production back running before too long. 4/8/2008 10:55:35 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah both me and j33pownr have fallen off our 5-6KPPD...his last two days look good though, and I should be there within the next couple days so that will be a good start.
we definitely still need some more people to step it up!!! plz to help team!!] 4/8/2008 10:58:27 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
we need to organize like a Fold-a-thon, kinda like a LAN party, but just have everyone bring their laptop / desktop whatever to a party and let everyone's computer fold
or maybe like a folding install-a-thon, where people bring their computers to an event where people on our team help setup the folding@home application on their computers for them.
or hire someone to write a virus that installs it on all computers on resnet
[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 11:04 AM. Reason : .] 4/8/2008 11:03:55 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or maybe like a folding install-a-thon, where people bring their computers to an event where people on our team help setup the folding@home application on their computers for them." |
hmm, maybe offer limited computer/technical assistance if they/we install the folding@home client. though for on campus people can't they use resnet tech assistance...so they wouldn't really need our help?
we would want to wait until the SMP client comes out of beta though, no sense in installing that on a system you're never gonna touch again because of the beta expiration thing.4/8/2008 11:49:29 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "though for on campus people can't they use resnet tech assistance" |
resnet isn't going to come out and help them with their folding@home install.
Quote : | "we would want to wait until the SMP client comes out of beta though, no sense in installing that on a system you're never gonna touch again because of the beta expiration thing." |
good point, i was just posting some thoughts without really thinking about it all the way through.
i gather that it would actually be a low turn out anyways as i'm guessing a lot of people aren't too thrilled about someone else installing an application they know little about, and once they find out some of the negatives (increase power usage, increase heat) etc. they might lose interest.
maybe we should just stick to the flyers... maybe get permission to put them up outside the cafeterias, library, food courts, c-stores, etc.?4/8/2008 11:59:49 AM |
J33Pownr Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
After getting back from my trip I discovered someone logged me off my vista pc at work, causing me to drop 1800ppd. Also my home computer was hung, causing me to lose 2000ppd. 4/8/2008 12:25:18 PM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
Once I gave away some computer parts if they would fold x amount of pts. At one time I was considering a contest where new users would have 1 month to fold the most points and get a $50 gift card. At the same time, we could have a random drawing for current users. It's in this thread somewhere a long time back.
[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .] 4/8/2008 1:42:44 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "resnet isn't going to come out and help them with their folding@home install." |
well my point was using the offer of free pc/tech help to get people to come out...cause i wouldn't expect that many people to show up to a folding@home install-a-thon pon its own, unless we publicize the hell out of it.
Quote : | "After getting back from my trip I discovered someone logged me off my vista pc at work, causing me to drop 1800ppd. Also my home computer was hung, causing me to lose 2000ppd." |
ahh ok i figured something like that happened...we'll see who's in the lead in the next few days (not counting chemp of course...cause i don't think either of us will be able to catch him anytime soon)
Quote : | "Once I gave away some computer parts if they would fold x amount of pts. At one time I was considering a contest where new users would have 1 month to fold the most points and get a $50 gift card. At the same time, we could have a random drawing for current users. It's in this thread somewhere a long time back." |
thats a good idea...i once offered some oink invites for people who folded X points...and while noone met the goal we did have some new members as a result.
i'm thinking of doing another tww front page article soon...we should at least tie in a contest/promotion like you're talking about into that article, and maybe the install-a-thon if we decide to go that route. last time i did towards the beginning of summer...downside being not as many students on, but the upside is the article stayed at the top longer since not much was happening on campus.4/8/2008 1:49:16 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
the problem i have with spare parts is that the power required (100-200W) just to get 100-300 PPD from a legacy piece of hardware just isn't worth it.
nowadays you can buy a LGA775 motherboard, a E2160 (OC'd to 3.0Ghz out of the box), 1GB of memory, for under $150... and get 1400+ PPD from it. 4/8/2008 1:50:47 PM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that it would be better to wait until the SMP client is out of beta, because it could create a lot of headaches. My computers are so out of date, it is pathetic. I've had nothing to try the SMP client on.
Basically I was suggesting to sell stuff for Folding Points rather than just giving it away or only charging a few dollars. I agree that for many older systems, it is not really worth it. 4/8/2008 1:55:40 PM |