pretty sure Bill Clinton would win in a presidential race versus Clint Eastwood

but obviously neither of them are running

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 11:51 PM. Reason : also i'd vote for Clint, cause he is Dirty Harry!]

9/5/2012 11:51:15 PM

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"Whateve spelling/gammar Nazi. Why to stay on topic. Itz just the internetz so get off my nutz."

If you weren't posting elementary school versions of republican talking points and making vague allusions to "numbers" that never materialize nobody would give a shit that your spelling and syntax are terrible.

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/5/2012 11:51:45 PM

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"i'm just saying, the incumbent is even more of a shoe-in for the nomination"

I agree!

9/5/2012 11:52:36 PM

^^ok Poindexter. I don't see any evidence of your massive brain power around here. Bring it on.

9/5/2012 11:55:07 PM

^^meh, bring me an example in our lifetimes

only applicable people are Reagan, Clinton and W, iirc

[Edited on September 5, 2012 at 11:57 PM. Reason : .]

9/5/2012 11:56:28 PM

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""man al sharpton looks terrible these days.""

i don't usually watch much cable-news tv, but i've been watching more in the last couple weeks than i have in the last couple years, mostly unchd, msnhd and fndh/fbnhd. and it's been interesting. and i too have been wondering about the rev: first, why are they still putting him on tv? and two, is he sick? i know he lost a lot of weight, but he looks frail. and bill should have wiped that white spot out of the corner of his mouth, if it was wipeable. but apparently he just won over the world.

9/5/2012 11:58:48 PM

funny thing is Clinton was shitting on Obama 4 years ago, obviously because he wanted his wife to get the nomination, now he's all on Barack's dick

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 12:00 AM. Reason : SEC! SEC! SEC!]

9/6/2012 12:00:31 AM

did you really need to point out that you watched the HD version of all those channels?

9/6/2012 12:00:33 AM

i just wanted you to point it out to you

9/6/2012 12:03:07 AM

wait a minute... what's "fndh"?

9/6/2012 12:04:41 AM

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"and bill should have wiped that white spot out of the corner of his mouth, if it was wipeable."

He wasn't able to swallow the whole load.

9/6/2012 12:05:22 AM

Clinton killed 'em

9/6/2012 12:16:45 AM

the proper term is that he "Vince Fostered them"

9/6/2012 12:17:14 AM

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"funny thing is Clinton was shitting on Obama 4 years ago, obviously because he wanted his wife to get the nomination, now he's all on Barack's dick"

I know right?

I don't think I'll ever forget where I was while watching him endorse him at the 2008 DNC while also shitting all over him

sheer madness

9/6/2012 12:29:51 AM

lots of hate on twitter: http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/people-tweeting-hideous-thing-about-sandra-fluke

9/6/2012 12:31:11 AM

as they should be. bitch went to a private catholic university and then got pissed when they acted like catholics. fuck her and everyone like her

9/6/2012 12:32:26 AM

^^^you must have conveniently forgotten the political ads before the convention, if you're acting like you forgot that Clinton criticized Obama's experience in favor of wanting his wife to become the nominee

keep towing the party line though, I'll keep objectively viewing the entire R/D process from a non-biased independent perspective

9/6/2012 12:35:32 AM

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"theDuke866: 10-15%, from what I've always read. Doesn't matter much though if it's 5% or 25%...the other votes are, on average, equally split and not really in question."

The question is whether or not those people who have already decided will actually vote. I think that question matters more for Democrats (our folks are a little harder to motivate) than it does for Republicans so maybe that's why you're not quite grasping its importance.

I also think you are overemphasizing the swing voter because you fancy yourself a swing voter, a reasonable guy who weighs all the sides. But you're not a swing voter. You know who you're going to vote for, and you proved that when you dismissed women's issues as a "manufactured problem." Maybe you're unaware, but the steps that have been taken all across this country to limit reproductive rights are very, very real...there is nothing manufactured about it. So you're either very ignorant or you're exceptionally biased in favor of conservatives. I think it might be both. You actually have to swing at least once or twice to qualify as a swing voter...and claiming that you would vote for Bill Clinton today doesn't count.

I'm certain this post is a reach, but you cannot pretend to be this reasonable guy who is above it all while simultaneously pushing some total garbage about how women's issues are a manufactured problem--just another distraction/trick from those crafty Democrats, right?

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 12:51 AM. Reason : ]

9/6/2012 12:36:38 AM

keep doing your thing, tree

9/6/2012 12:39:12 AM

i'm just observing, you're the one acting like Clinton was throwing his wife under the bus when she was still a viable candidate

i don't blame his flipflop, thats politics, he supported his wife, for obvious reasons, then once it was clear she wasn't going to get the nomination, he supported Obama

pretty obvious for anyone who isn't blindly in love with Obama

9/6/2012 12:39:49 AM

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"but the steps that have been taken all across this country to limit reproductive rights are very, very real."

and by "reproductive rights," she means "the ability to slaughter the innocent unborn for having the audacity to be conceived"

9/6/2012 12:40:40 AM

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"i'm just observing, you're the one acting like Clinton was throwing his wife under the bus when she was still a viable candidate"

where did I act like that?

of course it's all politics, I never claimed that it wasn't and I'd love for you to point out where I've shown my blind love for Obama

9/6/2012 12:46:03 AM

^^ Yeah. What's your point?

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 12:48 AM. Reason : .]

9/6/2012 12:48:29 AM

i just read the transcript of sandra fluke's speech...there was nothing cunty about it.


i just hate how republicans are undermining curse words. if you call every woman a cunt, what will you call the actual cunts?

9/6/2012 12:49:51 AM

^^^^well women should have access to free contraception of their choice. i sure as hell dont want to pay for welfare for these teen moms popping out kids and showing up on MTV...

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .]

9/6/2012 12:49:57 AM

^^^^you mentioned Clinton endorsing Obama at the 08 convention, as if that meant Clinton always supported him...when thats not true, since Clinton obviously had his own reasons for endorsing Hillary until she was essentially out of the race

you can play the semantics / syntax card all you want, but you arguing my point about Clinton shitting on Obama 4 years ago makes you seem like you're in love with Obama...either that, or just willfully ignorant to the fact that Clinton indeed attacked Obama for multiple reasons, until his precious wife was out of the picture, in which case he went all SEC! SEC! and supported Obama, the fellow party member who was going to actually run for president

9/6/2012 12:51:15 AM

Dude, you're not even voting. Sit back, shut the fuck up, and smoke another bowl or whatever it is your irrelevant ass does these days.

9/6/2012 12:54:58 AM

dude, you're not even voting, why can't you just pick a corrupt side and blindly argue it! dude

9/6/2012 12:57:13 AM

you do realize that it is possible to campaign for your wife and not attack her opponent, right?

I saw him speak in 08 and he didnt attack him once

of course they aren't the best of friends. they dont have to be. it's politics and they're playing for the same team

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 12:59 AM. Reason : ]

9/6/2012 12:58:01 AM

i know he attacked Obama's lack of governmental experience while touting Hillary's...more government experience

thats not a personal attack, maybe he didn't want to go all out if he thought she didn't have a good chance to become the final nominee, but its just disingenuous to say Bill Clinton never criticized Obama during the few months that he thought Hillary could be the nominee

9/6/2012 12:59:59 AM

criticize =/= attack

that's all I have to say about that

They're showing portions of Bill's speech again...I'm getting worked up all over again

9/6/2012 1:01:27 AM

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"i'm just observing, you're the one acting like Clinton was throwing his wife under the bus when she was still a viable candidate i don't blame his flipflop, thats politics, he supported his wife, for obvious reasons, then once it was clear she wasn't going to get the nomination, he supported Obama pretty obvious for anyone who isn't blindly in love with Obama"

backpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedalbackpedal

9/6/2012 1:02:27 AM

backpedaling from what?

9/6/2012 1:05:53 AM

Who is the real loser in this convention?

Charlotte

9/6/2012 1:15:46 AM

From your stupid as fuck "independent" observation.

9/6/2012 1:16:04 AM

^^seriously, tell me about it

^ok? what have i said that isnt true? again, feel free to play semantics and the difference between clinton attacking obama personally versus his experience, what have i said that wasnt true? i actually am independent, if i was some right wing crazy dont you think i'd give a shit about going out and voting? i dont like either party or either candidate...though i do support obama because he is our president...you just seem like one of the "yeah man, fuck the government" guys who caves in and actually picks a side of the government to support

9/6/2012 1:19:47 AM

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"^ok? what have i said that isnt true? again, feel free to play semantics and the difference between clinton attacking obama personally versus his experience, what have i said that wasnt true? i actually am independent, if i was some right wing crazy dont you think i'd give a shit about going out and voting? i dont like either party or either candidate...though i do support obama because he is our president...you just seem like one of the "yeah man, fuck the government" guys who caves in and actually picks a side of the government to support"

No, you aren't an independent. You're a nonvoter. You statistically don't exist. I cannot make this any more clear. Your only contribution to American politics, literally, is spewing nonsense on the internet.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:26 AM. Reason : r]

9/6/2012 1:26:03 AM

woohoo got in at the last minute!

9/6/2012 1:27:57 AM

^^and your contribution is 1 vote in a state (doesn't even matter which state) thats decided by thousands of votes, if not tens of thousands of votes for one side or the other?

whatever makes yourself feel better about supporting one extremely corrupt party over the other

look at me! i voted! i made a difference! i helped my party win or lose by 19,678 votes, i am an important member of society!

lol, clowns

9/6/2012 1:29:27 AM

9/6/2012 1:29:59 AM

9/6/2012 1:32:44 AM

Yea, I laughed.

9/6/2012 1:33:38 AM

^5 They should have Obama speak at Bobcats games. Probably the biggest crowd there in years.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:34 AM. Reason : 5]

9/6/2012 1:34:21 AM

if i voted for Ron Paul i'd be just as statistically insignificant as if i didnt vote

but i'd still hold the same contempt for the elephants and donkeys as i do now

9/6/2012 1:37:29 AM

Yes, but you'd also be taking part of the Democratic process.

9/6/2012 1:41:15 AM

this same democratic process?



when i watch that video the first thing i think is "man...i want to be a part of that!"

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:45 AM. Reason : .]

9/6/2012 1:42:20 AM

That definitely is the Democratic process.

But thats not The Democratic process.

Look, you're not going to win this argument because there isn't one to win. If you want to continue to disconnect and do nothing, then continue to do nothing. However, nobody else is going to ever take you seriously and that makes you exactly what I said you were: an irrelevant assclown spewing nonsense on the internet.

[Edited on September 6, 2012 at 1:48 AM. Reason : pz]

9/6/2012 1:46:20 AM

Voting doesn't only mean voting for president. There are a lot of smaller elections that you could possibly make a difference in that you're missing out on which affect your life quite a bit. Do you care about Republicans trying to disenfranchise the poor, elderly, young and minorities? Vote Dem. If you care about Dems raising taxes on food and alcohol (fuck you Bev Perdue), then vote Rep. You just sound like a whiny bitch by abstaining from the process altogether.

9/6/2012 1:47:25 AM

i shouldnt sound like a whiny bitch, i should sound like an apathetic bitch if anything

regardless of who is president, vice president, governor, mayor, student council president, i'm gonna find a way to make do

i just dont like people saying "if you had to choose between being shot to death or stabbed to death, which would you choose" and them shitting on me for saying neither

the two party system is broken as fuck, its sad you guys (and people on the right as well) dont realize that, and instead choose to criticize someone who refuses to participate in the charade, rather than the puppeteers who orchestrate it on each side

9/6/2012 1:49:30 AM

this discussion makes me sad

9/6/2012 1:53:00 AM