I'd rather not be on a PvE server :/

Esp considering my horde main is a rogue.

9/8/2005 10:13:37 AM

medivh can desperately use some more horde players

9/8/2005 11:19:36 AM

Stop being pansies and play on a PvP server. I am Glmnock on Eredar.

9/8/2005 11:23:14 AM

malganis

pvp

we need alliance

9/8/2005 11:45:53 AM

^^^Dude, we may outnumber Horde, but the quality of most alliance players is garbage. Horde are fewer, but FAR more skilled.

9/8/2005 12:01:37 PM

Barrens chat brings the horde down.

9/8/2005 12:05:37 PM

Hahahahaha.

9/8/2005 12:20:30 PM

Hahahahaha.

9/8/2005 12:38:11 PM

PVP server ftw.

I for one wouldn't mind getting my lock off of Mal'ganis and back onto a alliance superior server.

So I don't wait an hour and a half for a WSG game.

9/8/2005 12:53:39 PM

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"^^^Dude, we may outnumber Horde, but the quality of most alliance players is garbage. Horde are fewer, but FAR more skilled."

That's how it is on Shattered Hand...where we're outnumbered 3 to 1. We get a group to go to Stromgrade Keep, get at least 12 honor kills till we die when the alliance gets only 5.

9/8/2005 12:57:46 PM

Ive gotten hooked on Alterac Valley lately. Too bad theres only ever a game running onece every other day.


I would like to start a char on a pvp server, but i really dont want to put the time into building one all over again.

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ]

9/8/2005 1:02:07 PM

Just killed the 4 demons to get my epic bow after 4 months of raiding in MC. I need a long break.

9/8/2005 1:03:56 PM

New people should consider joining Skullcrusher. We usually have two to three AV's going on at all times of the day. The alliance and horde is pretty well balanced.

As for PvE, Immortality clears up to Nefarion and has two Thunderfury's already. Alot of other guilds down rag and do well in BWL.

9/8/2005 1:06:30 PM

I find it laughable that Nelfarion is more difficult to kill than Ragnaros

9/8/2005 1:13:37 PM

Given the storyline, i dont think Ragnaros should have ever been put in the game to be beatable.

Not until either hero classes come out, or the level cap gets raised

9/8/2005 1:34:12 PM

^ I concur.

man some big news came down from blizzard yestertoday

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4782636&p=1&tmp=1#post4782636

Quote :

"Character-Transfer Service Another feature of the Web site we'll be implementing is fee-based character transfers. This is a feature that's been very frequently requested and one which we want to provide for players as soon as we can. We'll offer character transfers from one realm to another, as well as allow players to move characters from one account to another. While we want to offer this service as a convenience, we also want to prevent its use for exploitive reasons, so there will be a time restriction to limit the frequency that a character can be moved. "

THAT is awesome

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 1:36 PM. Reason : *]

9/8/2005 1:35:33 PM

who ever designed kazzak was pure evil. nothing beats wiping a raid a few times with your level 22 warlock named "repairss"

9/8/2005 1:47:07 PM

^^And come to think of it, the child of an Aspect shouldnt exactly be able to be killed by a group of 40 mortals either.

9/8/2005 1:59:42 PM

I would transfer if we could have a TDUB horde guild with more than 20 members. I will only transfer if we can do Molten Core raids as well.

PvE is out of the question though, sry carebears.

9/8/2005 2:36:15 PM

I'd do it...but i'd be starting from stratch, not transferring a character

Besides, all my high level chars are alliance anyway

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 2:50 PM. Reason : ]

9/8/2005 2:49:40 PM

I'm with Stimwalt.

A Tdub Guild on a decent server.

Most of the fairday tww players have probably already quit so we'd have a strong core.

9/8/2005 3:24:50 PM

i'm gonna get high warlord first, i only need maybe a month. then i'll transfer to whatever server. but i'm down.

9/8/2005 3:48:31 PM

None of this stuff will get implemented before Thanksgiving I bet, so you have plenty of time.

9/8/2005 3:49:36 PM

I started back again

I wanna transfer my lvl 58 NE Hunter to a PvE server with all my other characters so I can make leather shit for all of them

Btw, with battlegrounds out now, why would you want to be on a PvP server? Just to get ganked all the time while you're trying to get to 60?

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 3:50 PM. Reason : sdf]

9/8/2005 3:49:43 PM

Because battlegrounds isnt a constant pvp-fest. You have to wait, sometimes for fucking ever for enough players to get in the queue to begin a game.

on Medivh, You're fucking lucky if an Alterac Valley game ever starts during the week, and WSG at lvl 60 is fucking futile unless you have atleast half your epic pvp gear.

9/8/2005 3:56:55 PM

Some of the best 1v1's and fights I've been in have been out of battlegrounds.

9/8/2005 3:59:50 PM

I started on a PvE server because a bunch of RL friends, and some people i played FFXI with wanted to, and i also wanted to play the game at first without having to worry about being ganked. Now that that learning period is LONG over, i'd have no problem starting up on a PvP server.

I dont know about WoW, but every other MMO i played that had seperate servers for pvp and pve, the pvp ones were all full of little teenage, short dicked, crybabies that would sit and rez kill you over and over, then whine if you called a friend to help out.

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ]

9/8/2005 4:03:37 PM

Yeah the ganking in the first few months was almost intolerable especially on a high pop server. I don't mind getting ganked occasionally but holy shit.

9/8/2005 4:04:32 PM

BG and the honor system took outdoors PVP, and skullbwned it.

There is no outdoors pvp and the only time you really get "ganked" is if you're trolling around TM or in STV. No big raids on Xroads or such for fear of killing a civilian and having everyone in the raid get a DK. Blizzard knows this is a pretty big issue and are investigating accordingly.

Furthermore, I'm inclined to believe you're much worse at pvp initially if you didn't get your cherry popped brutally by a lvl 60 raid party as a n00b.

As for Epic gear in BG. Ask Quinn(/wave Varsh ) or Stein. Gear is by far the least determining factor in BG unless its guild vs guild and neither of the two is terrible. :

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on September 8, 2005 at 4:41 PM. Reason : wtf I need to sleep. I'm typing worse then an NO native.]

9/8/2005 4:40:27 PM

any info on the expansion they will be unvealing at blizzcon at the end of october?

9/9/2005 9:32:48 AM

to my knowledge, they havent released shit about it other than the fact that they're gonna be talking about it at Blizzcon. Also, their latest press release, to me, suggests that hero classes will not be in the expansion, but that they are working on them

9/9/2005 9:50:41 AM

yeah Hero classes will come in a content patch as far as I can tell.

I am more interested in new areas and how they continue the story line of the universe.

9/9/2005 9:56:36 AM

Oh i am too, first and foremost. But the addition of hero classes is how Blizzard plans to implement content beyond the lvl 60 cap, and with that, comes more story.

I wonder if they're ever going to open up Northrend, or even Draenor...or maybe the emerald dream?

9/9/2005 10:02:49 AM

i think it has also been said that they are working on adding random weather effects to the game zones.

9/9/2005 10:16:01 AM

what they need to do with the expansion is up the level cap and add places that have higher level content.

The Emerald dream would be waaaay tricky since its just a dream, 'untarnished' version of the existing world.

According to the end of Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal Draenor is no more, but I am sure there are ways around that.

Northrend would probably be your best bet, having Arthas be the boss of a raid dungeon. They could also open up the maelstrom and let you visit the Naga and kill Queen Azshara.

I wouldnt mind seeing more burning legion content. Showdowns with Archimonde, Manarooth(sp?) or even Hakkar would be pretty sweet.

9/9/2005 12:48:03 PM

I really hope they don't raise the level cap. That would royally suck and would make MC/BWL too easy. I think the only "level increase" will be the hero classes.

Draenor exists. Play WC3. You get to go there and do some quests and it is where Illidan currently hangs out.

About Northrend... I don't think they'll add the Lich King in for a while, and even if they do, he won't be killable with 40 lvl 60s. He is supposedly the most powerful being in all of Warcraft Lore.

I'd love to see the Maelstorm in the expansion. I think thats one of the coolest parts of WC lore.

9/9/2005 12:53:56 PM

Draenor will be opened soon after the Medivhs Tower instance is, Book warlocks need to open dark portal is contained there, And There are already 3 or 4 portals that lead to the Emerald Dream so it will be opened at some point as well

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 12:57 PM. Reason : w]

9/9/2005 12:56:59 PM

Quote :

"Ask Quinn(/wave Varsh )"

Yeah, sorry about that. WoW is a very boring, slow paced game, which i no longer enjoyed. It wouldnt be so bad if you didnt have to watch your slow ass run all over the world just to do anything. (and yes i had an epic mount, that is still too slow and warlocks are asshats).

PEAS

**I think i had all but 2 pieces of cenarian , about 9-10 epics equipped when i quit



[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 1:06 PM. Reason : epenis, not like i worked for it, i got it for free]

9/9/2005 1:04:50 PM

hmm I guess the novels dont stay consistent with the Warcraft world. I beat Warcraft 3, two weeks before it was released . Whose quests are in Draenor?

I didnt realize the Lich King surpased the Titans or Old Gods in power. I thought he was more along the lines of Archimonde or maybe as high as an aspect.

Where are these portals to the emerald dream?

9/9/2005 1:08:49 PM

Quote :

"According to the end of Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal Draenor is no more, but I am sure there are ways around that."

Armabond is right. You do to Draenor alot in WC3:The Frozen Throne. I dont remember if you do or not in WC3, but its still there. The Draenei are all but extinct, and its mroe or less a haven for demons.

Quote :

"Northrend would probably be your best bet, having Arthas be the boss of a raid dungeon. They could also open up the maelstrom and let you visit the Naga and kill Queen Azshara. He is supposedly the most powerful being in all of Warcraft Lore. "

Arthas is more powerful that Archimonde, but not quite Kil'jaeden and the Titans. Still vastly more powerful than anything we've seen in game so far. Blizzard stil maintains that Illidan is the most powerful NPC in the game (just not any released content yet). He puts the current faction bosses to shame.

Quote :

"I wouldnt mind seeing more burning legion content. Showdowns with Archimonde, Manarooth(sp?) or even Hakkar would be pretty sweet. "

They're all dead, according to the aftermath of WC3:TFT except Hakkar. Hakkar is supposedly the end boss of the upcoming "Zul'Gurub" instance.

Quote :

"I really hope they don't raise the level cap. That would royally suck and would make MC/BWL too easy. I think the only "level increase" will be the hero classes."

It sounds like thats what they plan to do. Hero classes will be the next tier up past 60.

Quote :

"Where are these portals to the emerald dream?"

The only one i can think of offhand is in the NE corner of the Hinterlands. Its across the river, guarded by a bunch of dragonspawn and a bigass named green dragon.


Read here for a summary of everything that happend in WC3: The frozen throne
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter5.html#37

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 1:32 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2005 1:24:46 PM

There are portals to the emerald dream in Ashenvale (near Azshara zone), Darkshire (middle), Hinterlands, and Feraelas (NE of the zone). They are green (raid) portals.

I really liked the Hakkar chain in the Sunken temple and I'd love to see that story continued. Looking forward to the new dungeon.

9/9/2005 1:49:13 PM

The portal in Duskwood is one as well, Think there is one in Ashenvale? somewhere over that way... there was a link a page or two back that had info on all the not yet opened instances that included the Emerald Dream, Outland (Draenor), Caverns of Time, etc

9/9/2005 1:50:31 PM

If anyone wants a 60 Tauren Warrior, Fury specced, 2 epics (might legs and shadowstrike/thunderstrike). $100 gets him. Otherwise I'm donating him to the guild I'm in. Server is Nathrezim... basically a 50/50 horde/alliance balance.

9/9/2005 1:53:08 PM

ah ok I didnt think Warcraft 3 had any draenor in it. I havent beaten the frozen throne yet.

Quote :

"Arthas is more powerful that Archimonde, but not quite Kil'jaeden and the Titans. Still vastly more powerful than anything we've seen in game so far. Blizzard stil maintains that Illidan is the most powerful NPC in the game (just not any released content yet). He puts the current faction bosses to shame. "

Ragnaros, one of the old gods, should be more powerful than Arthas. It always confused me why they had an Old God as a raid boss. Where did they say that Illidan is the most powerful NPC in the game?

Quote :

"They're all dead, according to the aftermath of WC3:TFT except Hakkar. Hakkar is supposedly the end boss of the upcoming "Zul'Gurub" instance. "

Yeah, I know they both died in WC3. But that doesnt mean they cant come back. The nightelves highborne were killed but twisted by Sargeras into the Satyrs, so I think he could bring back Arch and Mano.

9/9/2005 1:55:02 PM

Ragnoros is a shadow of his former self. Thats what was written in the lore about him. So it really isn't fighting an old gold... .more like a handicapped version of one.

9/9/2005 2:00:21 PM

ah makes more sense.

I guess I should re-read the lore. ive only read it a couple times

9/9/2005 2:03:01 PM

Ragnaros also wasnt an Old God. He was an elemental. Explaination:

Quote :

"The Pantheon, disturbed by the Old Gods' penchant for evil, waged war upon the elementals and their dark masters. The Old Gods' armies were led by the most powerful elemental lieutenants: Ragnaros the Firelord, Therazane the Stonemother, Al'Akir the Windlord, and Neptulon the Tidehunter. Their chaotic forces raged across the face of the world and clashed with the colossal Titans. Though the elementals were powerful beyond mortal comprehension, their combined forces could not stop the mighty Titans. One by one, the elemental lords fell, and their forces dispersed. The Pantheon shattered the Old Gods' citadels and chained the four evil gods far beneath the surface of the world. Without the Old Gods' power to keep their raging spirits bound to the physical world, the elementals were banished to an abyssal plane, where they would contend with one another for all eternity. With the elementals' departure, nature calmed, and the world settled into a peaceful harmony. The Titans saw that the threat was contained and set to work. "

Quote :

"Yeah, I know they both died in WC3. But that doesnt mean they cant come back. The nightelves highborne were killed but twisted by Sargeras into the Satyrs, so I think he could bring back Arch and Mano"

Mannoroth, maybe, but Archimonde was utterly fucking wiped out at the battle of Mount Hyjal. His spirit, essence, whatever...compeletely obliterated. Hes gone for good.

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 2:09 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2005 2:07:42 PM

^well i royally fucked that part of the story up.

9/9/2005 2:12:12 PM

Heh, its cool. I read this alot when im bored at work. What i love most about this game is its extensive and detailed storyline.

9/9/2005 2:14:25 PM

^in that case, if you havent, i would highly recommend reading the 6 novels they have that flush out the War of the Ancients and the time before WC1 and before and after WC2. Quick and fun reads.

9/9/2005 2:16:49 PM