I also see a lot of whining and crying about trying to overturn the election results or name calling of Trump supporters. Those people aren't the people I tend to listen to anyway, because they're the type of people who mostly just post cat memes and selfies all day.

The few Trump supporters I have in my feed are just bashing the left and calling them crybabies and gloating. None of them have said a peep about his transition to the white house or potential cabinet choices.

11/15/2016 6:30:16 PM

I was just saying to my gf today that my time would be better spent picking a couple issues and focusing on that instead of the general shithole political climate. So maybe I'll do that.

[Edited on November 15, 2016 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2016 6:39:41 PM

It's pretty empowering to surround yourself with a group of local, like minded people who believe in the same values you do, and to try to work together to enact changes that you can easily see in your community. So yeah, I'd give it a shot.

11/15/2016 6:46:47 PM

Quote :

"I'm just going to give it a rest and wait until more cabinet members are chosen."

Instead of bothering to condemn a big one he has chosen who hates blacks and Jews?

11/15/2016 6:48:11 PM

allegedly

jeez man, give the guy a chance!

11/15/2016 7:01:49 PM

^^^That kind of attitude is why we have so many people living in their bubble.

If I said that about hanging around like minded people, you would sit there and tell me that I need some diversity in my life. Normally, having discussions with people who have different viewpoints can get things accomplished. But now, we're all so polarized, it just leads to arguments.

11/15/2016 7:25:50 PM

Right. People in their communities don't need to work together at all, nor share similar values and goals to get shit done. Things will just build themselves, legislation will just somehow happen, and life will get better if we just consider the view point of others and think about them deeply. It's better to just sit and listen to people's opinions and agree to disagree instead of working towards compromises because working together is obviously why we are so divided. Solving problems on the local level only leads to more problems, because people far away may not like what the results are.

[Edited on November 15, 2016 at 7:42 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2016 7:42:03 PM

Quote :

" Even if the resentment over losing factory jobs is real, no one working the assembly line was ever making $90k+/year. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's the truth. "

You might want to discount double-check this, bro... The NYT says that the average UAW job is 40/hr, excluding benefits and pension. Average.

11/15/2016 11:44:10 PM

^ that's probably not far off what it should be when you factor of productivity and inflation. Just guessing. Can't have sour grapes because non union workers get screwed.


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https://twitter.com/hodgesmr/status/798648367970545664
Looks like Trumps media arm Breitbart is already starting with the propaganda.

11/15/2016 11:53:45 PM

^ you are probably right. Just chuckling at our resident DNC-cock-stroker at outright dismissing that any factory worker anywhere in the US is making 90k, when it's demonstrably false. I mean, for fuck's sake, the LA dock workers are averaging 147k in pay alone...

Quote :

"Everyone on all sides is cool with the pre-existing conditions part of the law."

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Everyone who actually understands insurance and how it is supposed to work is completely against the pre-existing conditions part of the law. Because they understand that you shouldn't be able to go buy homeowners' insurance WHILE YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE. You're right that it's the chief problem with the law, but you are wrong that everyone loves it. A lot of people love it, but those people don't understand insurance or economics.

Quote :

"No, man. This was not a normal election. We did not have civil disagreements on minor policy disputes. We've slowly built up the largest and most destructive government for decades. We've created the largest surveillance state known to mankind, have the highest levels of incarceration on the planet, have the largest military that the planet has ever known, and have systematically stripped average Americans of their due process. And we just gave all of that to a madman who is now surrounding himself with members of the radical right who openly fan the flames of racial hatred and hyper masculinity (a message that is being received to a rabid base of gun owners, by the way)."

Civil libertarians sound crazy now, don't they? LOL. (Not directed at the person who posted it)

Quote :

"I'm also failing to see how Bannon is a racist. All I've seen is that he's an alt-righter who makes dumb jokes about race."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "alt-right" basically a synonym for "white-nationalist?" I mean, that's basically a racist, is it not?

Quote :

"If there was anyone guilty of "unintentional disclosure", it wouldn't be Clinton. It would be whoever originally authored the email with classified information and sent it to her account."

The fuck? You're totally right. It's not Hillary's fault in any way, shape, or form, for setting up a separate account to which someone might mistakenly send classified information instead of to her .gov email address. She has absolutely no responsibility in that whatsoever. God damn you are a fucking hack.

11/16/2016 12:26:56 AM

Quote :

"You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Everyone who actually understands insurance and how it is supposed to work is completely against the pre-existing conditions part of the law. Because they understand that you shouldn't be able to go buy homeowners' insurance WHILE YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE. You're right that it's the chief problem with the law, but you are wrong that everyone loves it. A lot of people love it, but those people don't understand insurance or economics."

Those people understand it just fine. What they don't understand is that the concept is fundamentally opposed to the concept of privatized healthcare-- health insurance can't make profit if they don't deny sick people coverage. People who support coverage for pre-existing conditions, which is the majority of the country, really want a government insured risk pool (aka medicaid for more-- or all), they just need someone to figure out a good way to explain it to them without tickling their "socialism!!" bone. Maybe Trump is this person, who knows.

Regarding the surge of racism/sexism/homophobia recently:
"When trump empowers his supporters, he's not empowering the best. He's bringing out the racists, he's bringing out the misogynists, he's bringing out the antisemites, and some, I assume, are good people."

[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 1:06 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2016 1:04:10 AM

^ I don't think it's incongruent with privatized healthcare (whatever that means, I'll take it to mean "non-state-run healthcare"). I think it is incongruent with our current, seriously fucked up system, where we treat health insurance like a group-savings plan. And that notion, the group-savings plan (read: pooling costs), is why I say that most people don't understand insurance.

11/16/2016 1:30:18 AM

By privatized healthcare, i meant private health insurance.

How exactly is requiring coverage for people who are definite money pits not incongruent with privatized insurance? No private insurance company would voluntarily take on clients that will be a loss of revenue, if they can avoid it.

11/16/2016 1:47:45 AM

Donald Trump Requests Security Clearance for Son-in-Law Jared Kushner
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kushner-profile-idUSKBN13A2QZ

So in South Korea, their president is being pushed out because she was caught giving state secrets to a family friend (who happens to be a cultist), and letting this family friend vet her speeches.

But Trump openly is giving favors to his kids and son-in-law and the right can't raise an eyebrow. Worse yet, the media really didn't go after Kushner because it's not customary to investigate a candidate's family, but it looks like this guy is going to be making decisions for America.

11/16/2016 1:54:59 AM

Quote :

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "alt-right" basically a synonym for "white-nationalist?""

Nah. Not explicitly. Though there are certainly enough horrible people that like to fall under that umbrella that the two converge often. Really though it's two things: anti-establishment and nationalistic views.

It is true that often times those nationalistic views tend to coincide with "it's a white Christian country" but there are enough that don't that it's tough to put an entire blanket on them.

11/16/2016 6:28:13 AM

^^ yep I think you're dead on about Kushner's roll:

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/11/time-pay-attention-jared-kushner

Quote :

" Aboard his gold-plated jumbo jet, the Republican nominee does not like to rest or be alone with his thoughts, insisting that aides stay up and keep talking to him. He prefers the soothing, whispery voice of his son-in-law."

[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 8:46 AM. Reason : Buncha creeps]

11/16/2016 8:45:40 AM

I wonder if Trump and Kushner have ever tag teamed it, if you know what I'm saying

11/16/2016 9:49:04 AM

^ tag-teamed which one?

11/16/2016 11:07:00 AM

It'll be interesting to see how long a Melania sex scandal takes to happen. You know at 70 trump isn't able to satisfy her.

11/16/2016 11:50:45 AM

We are going there?

11/16/2016 11:52:45 AM

It's tww not tea time with the queen.

I don't know who the democratic equivalent of James o Keefe is but if someone were trying to smear trump, there's a clear opening there.

11/16/2016 11:56:58 AM

Wow

11/16/2016 11:58:01 AM

It wouldn't matter if a video surfaced of the Dallas Cowboys running train on Melania. The same 26% of Americans would still vote Trump in 2020, assuming he runs again or hasn't quit.

11/16/2016 12:00:01 PM

Chris Christie sent Jared Kushner's dad to jail? Huh?

Lol, I had no idea. Was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering..

[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 12:07 PM. Reason : X]

11/16/2016 12:02:05 PM

So is Ivanka going to be first lady or not? One one hand it would be better for our country because she's semi-intelligent and would help bit with TV ratings. On the other, can you imagine how zany and dramatic Melania would be with her foreign accent and racy past? Ratings would be off the charts! I can't wait to tune in and see what happens next!

11/16/2016 12:08:37 PM

no, stop being dumb, melania trump will be the first lady

why is this a thing?

11/16/2016 12:11:11 PM

I don't actually think it is a thing, but IIRC there was an unmarried president and his niece served as first lady. I'm just pointing out how absurd the situation is going to be. His fucking children will be helping to run his administration while somehow avoiding conflicts of interest with his billion dollar enterprises. Let the cameras roll.

11/16/2016 12:24:56 PM

Trump tweeted (yes, this is sadly going to be a thing) that they have not asked for clearance for the children.

Even so, I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable with the complete lack of transparency with their businesses given it is clear they have influence with him. It still blows my mind the same people obsessed with Chelsea and the non-profit seem to not care one bit about this.

11/16/2016 12:27:35 PM

it is weird that family members help with administrations, but trump didn't start that, he is not the first person

and trump is married to melania, she will be the first lady, the slut shaming should stop, it doesn't help anyone

11/16/2016 12:28:20 PM

^ in general, I'd agree.

But I found this meme to be particularly funny:


Michelle: Hi, I'm Michelle

Melania: Hi, I'm Michelle


And also, I think it's entirely likely that Trump is a weird sexual predator. He runs a beauty pageant, brags about going backstage when the girls are naked, openly boasts about groping women, and in all likelihood, has some weird attraction to his own daughter. Yeah, his wife and daughter should be off limits as long as they aren't influencing policy, but Trump himself is completely fair game.

11/16/2016 1:17:20 PM

Quote :

"Trump tweeted (yes, this is sadly going to be a thing) that they have not asked for clearance for the children. "

Yeah, except they 100% did ask for clearance for the kids, admitting a "low level staffer" was responsible.

11/16/2016 1:45:55 PM

Trump is gonna be too busy banging chicks to be an actual autocrat.

11/16/2016 1:46:03 PM

quick recap:
- Trump's immigrant gestapo is starting to come together with some local PDs saying they're ready to work with Trump on his plans, but others saying they refuse to work with him
- Trump is fairly aloof to abortion
- Trump is not draining the swamp or getting rid of lobbyists or insiders or elites
- Trump is not going to repeal the disastrous ACA, based on his most recent comments
- Trump has indicated he wants to pull out of Syria, essentially ceding control to Assad/Russia
- As people are committing violence/intimidation in his name, Trump's limp-wristed response was literally "stop it."
- As people are protesting Trump's presidency, his televised statement was "don't be afraid".

11/16/2016 2:21:38 PM

-Trump is bombastic, erratic, and unpredictable

-Hold on to your butts

11/16/2016 2:25:07 PM

I just finished watching The Man in the High Castle so I could get an idea of what life here will be like in a few years.

11/16/2016 4:09:51 PM

Quote :

" As people are committing violence/intimidation in his name, Trump's limp-wristed response was literally "stop it.""

Ah yes, our favorite media narrative that is in fact, the complete opposite of reality.

Im sure George Soros appreciates your support

11/16/2016 4:45:25 PM

Your biases are clouding your judgement

You're seriously gonna claim that's not happening at all, it's all the DNC and Georg Soros? Wow, you really are delusional. It's kinda funny, except it's apparent there are a lot of you loons out there.

(and yes, i know, plenty of loons on the left too, plenty of them. doesn't make you any less loony)

11/16/2016 4:54:01 PM

I already made this argument:

Quote :

"It's not, actually. Many Trump supporters have come out of the woodwork to intimidate minorities, and some have even vandalized property and assaulted people. I know you want to ignore this, but there's plenty of evidence out there. "

There is not much evidence out there, there are just tweets and accusations that go viral with no actual evidence. For the cases with actual records, they can be debunked:

http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/woman-faces-criminal-charges-after-falsely-claiming-trump-supporters-attacked-her/351046672

It's amazing how the MSM and Soros dollars can create such a convincing narrative that Trump voters are the violent ones. Honestly you are still going with this bullshit narrative as Clinton voters RIOT and the DNC was CAUGHT paying hobos to START VIOLENCE. Some troll or hate crime hoaxer will draw a swastika with "vote Trump" in a bathroom stall and it will be on the front page of HuffPost for you gullible morons. Yet we all know what would happen to someone wearing a Trump shirt walking in the wrong neighborhood.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+supporter+attacked

The "which side is violent" argument is the best example of how brainwashed leftists are. One side has overwhelming evidence but no mainstream media coverage, the other side has a few anecdotal cases (half of which are hoaxes) and 100% of the media attention.

11/16/2016 4:58:08 PM

lol. delusional.

11/16/2016 5:00:15 PM

That's not an argument.

It's always impressive to see how much control the media has on people's perception of reality.

Clinton voters/Soros employees riot in the streets, but hey, someone on Twitter said a Trump supporter did something bad.

Ofcourse, convincing SJWs they are victims never has been hard to do.

[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 5:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2016 5:26:33 PM

Lolzzzzzz.


JCE has all knowing and is not an alt right hack.

11/16/2016 5:36:02 PM

I've been rioting all week. Still waiting on that Soros check to come in the mail. Has anyone else gotten theirs yet?

I filled out the forms 'n everythang! This is bullshit! If I don't get my Venmo transaction this week from Soros then I'm going to sit out this year's War on Christmas.

11/16/2016 5:45:45 PM

There are paid activists. Look in your local nonprofit jobs section on Craigslist. Are most of them paid? No, very doubtful. Are the protests "manufactured"? Possibly.

You can say all of these things and still dislike Trump. We should all be against establishment billionaires manipulating the public. They did it with the Tea Party, of course they're doing it now as well.

11/16/2016 6:03:06 PM

Quote :

"How exactly is requiring coverage for people who are definite money pits not incongruent with privatized insurance? No private insurance company would voluntarily take on clients that will be a loss of revenue, if they can avoid it."

Notice I said that it is incongruent with our current fucked up system of group-savings-plans masquerading as insurance. In that regard, it can't work and I agree with you. With actual insurance, even high-risk people (money pits, as you call them) can be insured. It's just that, with the way the ACA works, the premiums necessary to cover them, even under an actual insurance model, would be so high as to make the insurance completely unaffordable. It's also dependent upon what the pre-existing condition is. You can insure a patient who has had cancer but currently has no insurance, for instance, and remain profitable. What you can't do, (which, by the way, the ACA basically allows), is insure someone who currently has cancer and no current insurance, and remain profitable. The ACA tried to deal with this, but since it is treating health insurance as a group-savings plan, it can't possibly succeed.

11/16/2016 7:57:56 PM

This seems good

https://www.twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/799069428767932417

11/16/2016 9:20:49 PM

Quote :

"You can say all of these things and still dislike Trump. We should all be against establishment billionaires manipulating the public. "

The thing about manipulated people is they don't like to be told they are manipulated.

And if you believe the violence is coming from Trump supporters rather than Clinton supporters, you are most definitely manipulated... because the only place where that idea exists is the mainstream media narrative, as reality shows us quite the contrary.

Like I said, the TWW SJWs wouldn't know a media agenda if it grabbed them by the pussy.

11/16/2016 9:25:31 PM

^^Look, I think with Trump, we are going to get a lot of negative things that nobody likes, and we are going to get some positive things.

The man is all over the place with his ideals. There's no way to tell what is coming. We've bitched and moaned about wanting a viable third party candidate, and we've basically elected one.



[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 9:27 PM. Reason : s]

11/16/2016 9:26:30 PM

what is the point of that post? i can encourage a thing trump does without supporting everything he does.

if you turn everything into a negative, you lose credibility and the chance to push through reforms voters on both sides agree on.

good shit right here:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us/politics/democrats-house-senate.html

[Edited on November 16, 2016 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2016 9:34:32 PM

Oh that post wasn't intended to be negative at all. I just think that all these people making predictions one way or another, is just kind of a waste of time until we actually see what the man is going to do.

I think he's running a bunch of smokescreens right now with all these cabinet rumors. I think he's just sitting back watching the media shit their pants every time a new cabinet rumor comes out.

I did hear today, from my dad who listens to Rush, so that could be his source, that Christie was out because he wanted lobbyists on his staff.

11/16/2016 9:59:45 PM

Throwing Jared's dad in jail is the obvious answer.

11/16/2016 10:29:05 PM