yes... they were gonna revamp the balance and feral tree significantly... got jack shit though

10/11/2005 11:34:52 AM

The feral tree was totally reworked and is VERY viable now.

10/11/2005 11:48:23 AM

no, it wasnt. they arent giving us the promised changes

its still under development, go looks at the patch notes

10/11/2005 11:52:05 AM

Look at the actual talent tree.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html

[Edited on October 11, 2005 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ed]

10/11/2005 11:53:29 AM

^it says "in development"


maybe they have not update their site

[Edited on October 11, 2005 at 12:04 PM. Reason : -]

10/11/2005 12:01:29 PM

In the patch notes it says "Druid talents have undergone a major rework blah blah blah you get a free talent respec"

10/11/2005 12:05:47 PM

yea ok i just finnished the dl

they just havent updated the site

10/11/2005 12:08:08 PM

i really cant wait to start getting endgame gear altho it will be such a long time, my class seems to be getting more and more gear dependent (warrior) by the second here. especially in PVP

10/11/2005 12:11:40 PM

More and More? Its been that way from the start.

10/11/2005 3:10:49 PM

Think I'll be going 13 feral, 1 or 2 balance, and the rest restoration after this patch.


I'm basically building a +healing druid for PvP and PvE.

10/11/2005 3:16:07 PM

^^ i know it has been. but it seems to be getting even more like that as other classes keep improving i seem to be further and further away from being equal (pre endgame of course)

10/11/2005 3:27:58 PM

Nice job Blizzard. Every major UI Addon including CT, Gypsy, Flexbar, and Nurfed is broken.

10/11/2005 5:30:48 PM

I hate patch days...updating mods sucks.

10/11/2005 5:34:36 PM

I think its just you.

I've seen warriors with good gear rape face more then any other class.

10/11/2005 5:57:15 PM

Moonkin form looks fucking ridiculous.

10/11/2005 6:02:41 PM

AUCeer had a lil quick fix on their forum

they make idiotic changes like font and color to the standar AH UI and dont do anything actual useful like ad favorites, scan and mass auctioner

10/11/2005 6:50:57 PM

As HockeyRoman:
I don't see in the actual patch notes where they nerfed Ruin for locks. And it still says 100% in the description. Haven't been able to test it out yet though to see since it is just a proc anyways.

10/11/2005 8:23:28 PM

it sounds like some (all?) warriors got an extra talent point after the patch, bringing their total to 52. say hello to more raping of casters and rogues

10/11/2005 8:31:28 PM

Quote :

"I think its just you. I've seen warriors with good gear rape face more then any other class."

did you mean without good gear??

because if you meant WITH good gear that was my point

dont get me wrong i do fine, but in AB if there are good casters guarding a flag im halfdead before i even get within range to do any sort of attack b/w priests, warlocks, and mages

if i can catch one and keep them in melee range, yea theyre toast even several levels higher, especially if a warrior knows whta they are doing class specific.

but BEFORE endgame...and pretty much the general consensus of almost all warriors ive talked to...warriors in general suffer quite a bit. i guess you can say it really improves your PVP dealing with it but it can get old. IE if a caster, who you dont see, starts hitting and DOTing you and youre halfdead before you even see them on your screen. and you cant get to them because you are immobolized or slowed down.

10/11/2005 9:18:37 PM

^^ That already got hotfixed. If you zone into any instance it resets your talent points back to 51.

10/11/2005 10:26:06 PM

flexbar has updated, yay.

10/11/2005 11:15:31 PM

Quote :

"but BEFORE endgame...and pretty much the general consensus of almost all warriors ive talked to...warriors in general suffer quite a bit. i guess you can say it really improves your PVP dealing with it but it can get old. IE if a caster, who you dont see, starts hitting and DOTing you and youre halfdead before you even see them on your screen. and you cant get to them because you are immobolized or slowed down."

Ha, you are complaining that gear significantly increases your performance and you class gets better as you get higher in lvl?

10/11/2005 11:49:48 PM

well i mean we gotta put up with about 58+ levels of mediocrity IMO

warlocks have it bad tho too endgame

10/11/2005 11:53:21 PM

i just want to say that as a paladin, i absolutely hate warsong gulch. it wouldn't be so bad if every time i played it my team wasn't just flat out terrible or we werent outnumbered 6 to 10. i wish the asshats on greymane would play arathi basin once in a while.

10/12/2005 12:18:34 AM

dangggg my new axe just got nerfed like woah. i didnt think the new patch would affect me that much but dang my overpowers have lost a couple hundred damage in many cases. i was critting for 500-700 all the time with my overpower..tonight i was around 400 the whole time. that sucks

10/12/2005 3:30:49 AM

As a paladin at level 48 with Executioners cleaver I crit for around 1200-1400 (weapon crit + seal of command crit).

10/12/2005 3:40:26 AM

warsong gulch favors shamans
arathi basin favors paladins

It is no surprise to me that each prefers to play only one of the two.

10/12/2005 5:51:58 AM

^ i don't mind playing warsong gulch as long as the people on my team have some sort of clue as to what they're doing, but for some reason they usually don't.

10/12/2005 6:16:19 AM

Honestly, almost every time I join a battle ground as a single the people have no idea what they are doing. It doesn't seem limited to only warsong gulch.

10/12/2005 6:51:41 AM

On my server we have an alliance guild that is so good at PvP that they named themselves "The Third Faction." These guys consist of 12 Marshals, 2 Grand Marshalls (one being current, the other simply has the gear), and they are elitist pricks that completely destroy any horde guild that stands up to them in any battleground. They are also known exploiters and have no shame in admitting to it. However, there is one horde guild that can beat TTF soundly, but they rarely join battlegrounds, because they would rather get tier 2 set pieces instead of PvP rewards.

10/12/2005 9:18:27 AM

Quote :

"As a paladin at level 48 with Executioners cleaver I crit for around 1200-1400 (weapon crit + seal of command crit)."

yea im a 50 warrior with executioner's cleaver. i guess my general crits have fallen to b/w 400-600 with the weapon speed nerf. i had a few higher ones tho. my execute, which is not weapon based, has still crit for well over 2000 for me

10/12/2005 10:50:55 AM

I've been in good AB's and bad AB's and then terrible AB's. For the most part, horde on Mal'Ganis have destroyed alliance in the AB's I've been in regardless of the fact that we were facing Exordium, Advent and MF consistently. Its been the exact opposite in WSG.

It seems that the way the queue system works, when you get a bad group and you don't /afk and rejoin another instance, you stick with that group for the night which makes me want to uninstall.

10/12/2005 11:15:07 AM

The AB game i was in last night started out well, then like alliance always does, we fell apart.

Took the stables, Mill, mine, and smith all within the first 5 minutes. Somehow, Horde managed to get by everyone and take the stables. So everyone freaked out and ran back to recapture th stables, and we lost everything else....instead of just defending what we had, or going after the farm.

I fucking hate alliance sometimes.

10/12/2005 11:19:25 AM

what server are you on ^

10/12/2005 12:59:21 PM

Medivh

10/12/2005 1:06:00 PM

Quote :

"On my server we have an alliance guild that is so good at PvP that they named themselves "The Third Faction.""

You know that's ANBU renamed, right?

10/12/2005 3:31:16 PM

^^ whats your char name on Medivh?

10/13/2005 12:21:18 AM

Bah, I'm probably still the only one on Eredar here.

10/13/2005 12:37:39 AM

Blizzcon t-shirts ftw...

10/13/2005 12:56:17 AM

I hate murlocs.

Dinged 48 with my warrior day before yesterday and 19 with my shaman last night.


catching back up with you CalledToArms heh

10/13/2005 8:27:31 AM

Quote :

"Bah, I'm probably still the only one on Eredar here."

Not true. I logged onto Warsteiner the other day.

Come join us on Maelstrom (horde side). It's fun being the underdog.

10/13/2005 9:29:34 AM

the dizzle,

Mukor. 60 Human Mage

10/13/2005 12:00:51 PM

nice. maybe someday. im about to ding 51. fightin to stay ahead of lokken

10/13/2005 12:04:37 PM

probably wont be hard...i want to get my shaman up as quick as possible....

but i want to get my warrior to lvl 60 cause the more 60s in a guild the easier recruiting is.

10/13/2005 12:22:21 PM

Quote :

"Rogues are scissors. Warriors are rock. Hunters, Paladins, Priests, Druids, Mages, and Shaman are Paper. Warlocks are Mushrooms. Paper beats rock. Scissors beat paper. Scissors also happen to beat rock... Until rock hits 60, at which point rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine, and then also beats paper, and WOULD beat Scissors but can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible. So Scissors beat paper, and avoid rock. That is called Balance."

10/13/2005 1:05:36 PM

Yeah, I know TTF is old ANBU, but they have even more members that are almost completely purple from head to toe.

10/13/2005 1:33:39 PM

^x8 Anyone know where I can get a 32 slot bag. That would be the hottness.

10/13/2005 2:10:08 PM

as an almost pure DPS hunter (5/36/10), i can still beat rogues on occasion... once i get better gear i plan to respec to do PvP... (only real PvP talents i have are Scatter Shot and Imp Wing Clip)

10/13/2005 3:22:30 PM

Being a hunter in PVP is pretty fun. Sit back and shoot all day.

10/13/2005 3:30:20 PM

Hunters do really well in AV b/c they don't run out of mana like mages, so they just stand behind the lines and wtfpwn everyone.

10/13/2005 3:35:18 PM