stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Due to failed attempts to get a new stadium in Miami, the Marlins have received permission to talk to other cities about a possible move as early as 2008. So far the team has expressed intrest in Charlotte, Portland, and Las Vegas.
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/baseball/13241457.htm
Personally, I dont think Charlotte can support two let alone three major professional sports teams 11/23/2005 8:36:38 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I would say to give us the baseball team, but with the Durham Bulls and Carolina Mudcats, not to mention some of the other minor league teams close by, there may be some issues there. 11/23/2005 9:03:25 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN 11/23/2005 9:04:01 AM |
CANichols Veteran 202 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the marlins, Go Nats! 11/23/2005 9:09:39 AM |
JDRNCSU Terminated 325 Posts user info edit post |
Vegas would be the logical choice. 11/23/2005 9:10:53 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This is a HORRIBLE idea. The Southeast does NOT need another baseball team. The Braves don't even get the support they deserve. It shouldn't even be cosidered. I've heard good things about Portland and they have a stadium easily upgradeable to MLB standards.. 11/23/2005 9:14:22 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
It will be Portland if the Marlins are serious about moving. My guess Miami builds them a stadium and this turns out to be a bargaining chip. 11/23/2005 9:27:01 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
So if they moved to Charlotte would they still be the Marlins?
Go CAROLINA CATFISH! 11/23/2005 9:28:54 AM |
TJB627 All American 2110 Posts user info edit post |
^^ So Miami is going to have to build another football stadium and baseball park? The NFL already said that Miami was supposed to get the 08 Super Bowl but that was only if they built a new stadium. Or then again I guess they could just share again maybe. 11/23/2005 9:33:12 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Personally, I dont think Charlotte can support two let alone three major professional sports teams" |
11/23/2005 9:42:19 AM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
the marlins are taking a page from the Jets owners and using this as a bargining chip. they wont move.
(fuckin bitch ass sleazebag money grubbing owners..)
i swear im not bitter. 11/23/2005 9:43:04 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ The Braves get plenty of support.
Just not in attendance figures
It would be a bad idea only because the southeast isn't as densely populated as other places in the nation. I love the Braves, but I'm not going to drive some 7 hours to get to Atlanta.
If they did plan on sticking another team in the Southeast, I think NC has to be a prime consideration though. We sit right between DC and Atlanta, and our state is one of the more populated ones down south. Not to mention, since we get such a large influx of yankees, they'll help pad our attendance figures. 11/23/2005 9:55:07 AM |
SteveO All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ They will not be building a new stadium....Miami is actually building a mall, hotels, and a hall of fame around Dophins stadium. They are just going to upgrade dolphins stadium.....
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 9:58 AM. Reason : .] 11/23/2005 9:57:41 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
Carol City Represent 11/23/2005 10:39:42 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Vegas is the logical choice 11/23/2005 10:45:08 AM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
NL West/East! 11/23/2005 10:59:42 AM |
Wolfpackman All American 1882 Posts user info edit post |
It'll never happen. Charlotte does not have the fan base to support 80 something home games during a MLB season. 11/23/2005 11:08:03 AM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
that would be awesome. I'd get to go see the Yankees in interleague play instead of having to go to NY or Baltimore all the fucking time. 11/23/2005 11:08:07 AM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Why not move them to Connecticut or Jersey?
The greater NYC area/market can easily support another team and it would help competitiveness by taking some, although not alot, of the huge markets that Bos, NYM, & NYY have.
To me, that is the only way to control the rediculous money that those clubs can fork out.
I know it won't happen, but I'm just saying the new team would enjoy a good market & it help competitiveness.
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ] 11/23/2005 11:18:36 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So if they moved to Charlotte would they still be the Marlins?
Go CAROLINA CATFISH! " |
Go JeffryLoriaCATS!
*so the queen city can keep up its trend of owners naming teams after themselves . . . and cats*11/23/2005 11:21:24 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Peter Angelos won't let it happen 11/23/2005 11:24:38 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
raleigh is a nice city
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 11:25 AM. Reason : Go Tri-City Twins] 11/23/2005 11:25:32 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
not gonna happen
they cant even get the CHARLOTTE Knights moved to CHARLOTTE 11/23/2005 11:29:50 AM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
can we trade the Bobcats for the Marlins? I'd rather have downtown baseball than NBA any day 11/23/2005 11:29:54 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
^] 11/23/2005 11:32:01 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
^^ what he said. 11/23/2005 11:35:57 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^What he said. 11/23/2005 11:36:50 AM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
what a horrible sports city miami is. the team wins two world series championships in 7 years and they can't get people to come to the ball park. atlanta and miami are worthless as far as fans go. 11/23/2005 11:39:15 AM |
jdlongNCSU All American 7105 Posts user info edit post |
well, Miami doesn't exactly have a huge population of people that grew up in the area and love their local teams.
Not many NY or New England fans that have moved to the Miami area and then suddenly switch allegiances. Nor are the eldery population that live on fixed incomes going to attend many games. So it's not suprising their lack of fan support.
Atlanta on the other hand, just plain sucks... 11/23/2005 12:03:55 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Marlins would be okay
I'll never support a team with a name / logo / color scheme as corny as the Bobcats. 11/23/2005 12:14:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
i'm taking bets that the marlins wont come to charlotte...anybody wanna make me rich by betting the marlins WILL come to charlotte 11/23/2005 12:28:31 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN 11/23/2005 1:51:11 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43412 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why not move them to Connecticut or Jersey?
The greater NYC area/market can easily support another team and it would help competitiveness by taking some, although not alot, of the huge markets that Bos, NYM, & NYY have.
To me, that is the only way to control the rediculous money that those clubs can fork out.
I know it won't happen, but I'm just saying the new team would enjoy a good market & it help competitiveness." |
People up here have fierce alliances to their teams, no way another one would work well. CT and NJ are so close to Boston/NYC/Philadelphia that there's no need to build a new stadium. Seriously, where would you build a stadium in NJ? Jersey City? Trenton?!?
And Las Vegas is a horrible choice. Not even close to a big enough population to support that.11/23/2005 1:56:18 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not even close to a big enough population to support that." |
Thats what I think every time I hear about Vegas. Not that many people actually live there and would hold season tickets. I think Charlotte would be good. Baseball is popular enough. My family would buy season tickets prolly.11/23/2005 2:02:26 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Charlotte just had a war over a new arena, i doubt they are gonna pay for a new baseball stadium 11/23/2005 2:02:52 PM |
DrOldSchool All American 2221 Posts user info edit post |
^^^, ^^
The Las Vegas metro area is the fastest growing area in the country, with almost 2 million people living there now. The city is also more than willing to spend big $$ for stadiums. But the leagues have to get over the whole gambling image thing first. 11/23/2005 2:17:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
dont you think charlotte wouldnt get the team considering the CHARLOTTE KNIGHTS are currently located in south carolina and they dont even wanna build a stadium for the CHARLOTTE knights? 11/23/2005 2:26:39 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^Yes people up there have strong allegiances, but I think if they focus their aim on a certain area of people, it would work. Obviously, they wouldn't take a big part of the market though, but still a pretty big one. I think an NL team could work in CT for example. It would help fuel a rivalry with the Mets, much like the Yanks & Sox.
The NJ Nets moving to Brooklyn was embraced by people who were mostly Knick fans. And their certainly are still plenty of people who enjoy going to games.
But as I said, I know it won't happen. The afforementioned teams would never allow it of course. In addition to the stadium funding issues.
And I think Vegas would be a plenty big enough market. They would get alot of opposing team fans at games with the tourist market & Vegas is growing very fast with lots of money to burn. Vegas doesn't have a single pro sports team as well. Miami already has the Dolphins & Heat, in addition to the Marlins. Vegas doesn't have anything, except a NASCAR track. They certainly can support 1 pro team, if not more.
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 2:32 PM. Reason : ^] 11/23/2005 2:32:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
but Vegas doesnt have the permanent resident fanbase...they would have to sell half of their seats to casinos 11/23/2005 2:33:31 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
charlotte would bring tailgating to baseball games 11/23/2005 2:37:03 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
^^They have enough of a permament fanbase. More people live there than you think. And it is growing. And there are no other pro sports teams to fight with. And the fans there are pretty well off, so they can easily afford tickets. 11/23/2005 2:40:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I agree completely
if i were to invest in a sports team vegas would be my city of choice
fastest growing city in the country and tons of money to go around 11/23/2005 3:00:42 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
good god please let this happen, the Nats should have come here to start with. 11/23/2005 3:25:25 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
charlotte is NOT a big city
there is no way it will be able to support 3 professional teams 11/23/2005 3:33:12 PM |
bwagsncsu Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
^ uhhh wrong.
populations: charlotte - 580,597
denver - 560,415 pittsburgh - 327,898 st louis - 338,353 cincinatti - 323,885 vegas - 508,604
just to name a few. charlotte definitely has the numbers to support MLB, but only if the city is willing to spend the money to build the stadium uptown.
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 4:01 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 4:02 PM. Reason : ] 11/23/2005 4:01:29 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
the entire charlotte metroplex is about 800k
the entire vegas metro region is about 2 million
shut the fuck up, you dont know what youre talking about 11/23/2005 4:06:55 PM |
bwagsncsu Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
haha internet anger. anyways you're wrong again.
charlotte metro - 2,067,810
las vegas metro - 1,952,779
do you want links? 11/23/2005 4:37:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
meh whatever
mecklenberg county is only about 800k iirc
either way vegas has more money and less competition for a market 11/23/2005 4:41:47 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
what would their new name be, because the Marlin's wouldn't really work 11/23/2005 4:43:09 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
the carolina marlins would still work
deep sea fishing off the coast of hatterass is quite good actually
any other city would have to change though
[Edited on November 23, 2005 at 4:45 PM. Reason : asdf] 11/23/2005 4:44:06 PM |