yeah I know, I'd just like to see them.

7/14/2008 10:04:03 PM

Post Build Questions:

1) When it starts up, it says express gate is not insalled. I have no idea what express gate is, what can I do to fix this?

2) So I'm not a big gamer, but I did play some counter-strike back in freshman year. My laptop got about ~70FPS. So I put it on my computer to see if I could do better and only pull in 60FPS. I was shocked, I mean my laptop is a HPzt3000 that doesn't have great graphics yet it did better. I also installed the drivers for this video card. It's a eVGA 8800GS. I did plug the power in, but I'm curious can it run without the power?

3) What can I download to monitor the temps? I'm curious to see what my comp runs at.

4) Are there any ways(software) to check that everything is running fine and set up?

5) Any suggestions you guys have?

7/15/2008 8:27:10 AM

^check to see if "vertical sync" is on (in-game graphic settings). This limits your FPS to 60 to prevent screen tearing. It basically matches the frame rate of the game to the refresh rate of the lcd so they don't get behind each other and make big lines on your screen. You usually want to keep vertical sync ON, but if you're benchmarking then you turn it off.

You should be able to bring up nvidia system monitor and see all your system temps.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 8:42 AM. Reason : ..]

7/15/2008 8:39:29 AM

^It's an ASUS Mobo.

7/15/2008 9:01:59 AM

^ but your video card is nvidia

7/15/2008 9:15:47 AM

So does that affect their compatibility? They might not like each other but they should still work, right?

7/15/2008 9:37:55 AM

Asus is just the board maker. The chipset could be nvidia or intel. Asus also makes nvidia video cards. It doesn't really matter. You can have a asus nvidia board, and an asus nvidia video card. Or an asus intel board, and a asus nvidia video card.

7/15/2008 9:41:45 AM

Gotcha, makes sense now. It's an intel chipset, would they have something comparable.

Do you know anything about the express gate then?

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 9:52 AM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 9:46:19 AM

watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w41vS3UcZdk

It's some asus feature that lets you boot into a linux os or something:

http://www.splashtop.com/

7/15/2008 10:26:50 AM

that's realllly cool

7/15/2008 10:29:04 AM

yeah, although i keep my computer running most of the time.

7/15/2008 10:31:23 AM

But you have to install express gate right?

7/15/2008 1:31:24 PM

yeah you probably have to turn it on in the bios or something. Try it out and tell us how it is.

7/15/2008 1:36:01 PM

I checked bios and it said it was turned on.

I thought the point of it was to have a pre-installed operating system (a small one i know).

So I'm installing it now. But it saves to c:, I thought it would save to the mobo.

7/15/2008 1:44:03 PM

Ok i installed it and it worked! Sweet.

but like I said, I thought it was something that installed to the mobo, not to my c: drive.

7/15/2008 1:47:11 PM

I think it's stored on the motherboard in some sort of onboard memory chip. You just enable/disable it in the BIOS. This is similar in concept to Dell's "Media Experience" they put on their laptops.

Are you sure it installed there? Or is it just looking there for media/etc.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 1:58:25 PM

I went into BIOS and it said it was enabled, but whenever it tried to restart it said it wasn't installed. Went to windows and put the cd in and it installed. It said it installed to C:, but I think it might of updated the BIOS. I'll format c: again soon cause I'm gettin' Vista (should I just get OEM vista?)


I saw where it said the files might of been corrupted, so I fixed them.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 2:11:18 PM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070130-8730.html

7/15/2008 2:43:38 PM

Is 54C a good temp for a CPU (no load really, kinda idle).

7/15/2008 4:15:48 PM

not for idle, your idle should be in the 30-50'C range and your full load shouldn't exceed 65'C

technically speaking anything under 65'C and your computer should run fine, if it reaches or exceeds 72.4'C for your CPU, it will lock up and/or automatically shutdown

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 4:18:49 PM

Any ideas to why the CPU is so hot, motherboard is around 93F (forget the Celsius measurement).

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 4:21:25 PM

double check to see all your fans are spinning.

what case did you get?

7/15/2008 4:42:44 PM

what cpu did you get again? Should be runnning 25-35c idle.

7/15/2008 4:50:30 PM

Intel HSF If you're really worried about it order a better one, that idle temp is pretty high.

7/15/2008 4:55:22 PM

^^i thought it was the E8400, but apparently it's the Q9450... i know quads run hot, but 50'C+ is hot for idle.

7/15/2008 5:03:11 PM

I got the Antec one you recommended.

I won't lie, my cable management is poor within the case, but I didn't think that would cause such high temps.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 5:20 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 5:16:27 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129018

even with the case side off it runs steady at 54 degrees

7/15/2008 5:33:14 PM

your heatsink/fan (HSF) probably just doesn't have good contact on the CPU

7/15/2008 5:34:43 PM

Is 40c to hot for the mobo?

7/15/2008 5:36:00 PM

^^I think you're right, the problem is if I to press really hard to get all clips to snap, and I don't wanna crack the mobo

7/15/2008 5:42:11 PM

yea, those pin type HSF's are a pain, and no 40'C for a motherboard is not too hot

7/15/2008 5:51:09 PM

Took out the fan, put it back in. Hit 100C according to It!!!! RABBLE!


How long till the CPU cools down.


Tried calling a few computer places to see if they would do it, but 8-9 days!!!

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 5:59:39 PM

that's not safe, shut the computer down and install it again correctly making sure all the pins are secured

i'm sure someone else on here that lives in Raleigh might be able to help you out.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 6:03:20 PM

i turned it off immediately

I still think the cpu will need time to cool down, I just can't get the pins to fit in the ASUS holes all that well.

No one else I've talked to has dealt with the push pins.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 6:04:15 PM

Sorry to keep adding to this thead... should I take the mobo out and try on a hard surface?


or would a third party cooler be better?

7/15/2008 6:07:18 PM

when installed properly the stock HSF should be fine.

i have at times taken my motherboard out to install the HSF, then put it in the case, but you have to be extremely careful.

7/15/2008 6:09:59 PM

of shock?

7/15/2008 6:10:20 PM

well yes, but i was just referring to installing the motherboard back INTO the case after the CPU and HSF are on it, it's just heavy and ackward

7/15/2008 6:31:14 PM

I really don't think this push pin syste wants to go in......

anyone in the raleigh area (who's done it before)wanna help?

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 6:39:37 PM

Ok I tried and I tried, and the fan now keeps the CPU at 62C. I'm gonna take a break from it tonight, but if anyone else has any suggestions, please share.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM. Reason : ]


Found this, said they are defective.
http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/heatsinks/warning.htm

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2008 7:37:10 PM

not to discourage you but the stock intel HSs are probably one of the easiest heatsinks to install. They just pop right in. Make sure the snaps are in the right position to go in. Most other heatsinks involve installing brackets, etc etc, but intel made it easy.

But once you've already tried you need to clean off the cpu and heatsink, and reapply thermal paste so you get a good seal. Everytime you put it on and take it off it messes up the paste.

7/15/2008 8:54:53 PM

You're not discouraging me, I just don't think it fits. I know that sounds whatever, but I've applied a lot of pressure and it's not going on. I've watched videos and documents and I have everything set the way they do.

7/15/2008 9:06:32 PM

hmm yeah that's weird. sometimes they won't go in if the pins with the arrows are turned the wrong way.

7/15/2008 9:18:51 PM

yeah i've had weird trouble with them before but usually around the time i broke something i figured out what i was doing wrong

7/15/2008 9:19:49 PM

I've just given up, I have no idea what to do. I just hope the mobo isn't broken (I doubt it is). I am just clueless

7/15/2008 9:21:23 PM

When I did mine the motherboard was starting to bend before I got enough pressure to set the pins. It really is an iffy process. I'd rather see a back plate stock fan that the 'push until something undesired snaps' model they've got going.

As others have said, make sure the pins are rotated to the correct position before trying to press down. Other than that the only thing I can think to say is don't be shy, push hard. Sometimes it goes in quite easy for people, other times the motherboard will bow when pressing.

I had to press so hard to get mine in that my northbridge seal broke.

7/15/2008 10:08:18 PM

^yeah I pushed hard, no go. I've read where there is just some that don't work

I might just buy a ~30$ heatsink/fan that has a back plate.

7/15/2008 10:09:58 PM

Quote :

"Other than that the only thing I can think to say is don't be shy, push hard. Sometimes it goes in quite easy for people,"

Quote :

"^yeah I pushed hard, no go. I've read where there is just some that don't work "

That's what she said.

Sorry had to do it.

7/15/2008 11:23:12 PM

the intel 775 mounting scheme is absolute crap.

i didnt even try to use it. i went to home depot and rigged up some bolts and washers.

i water cooled pcs for years so it was habit compounded with the fact that well

the intell 775 mounting scheme is absolute crap

7/15/2008 11:36:04 PM

While I really like the Xigmatek heatsinks I just bought

Holy shit were they a bitch to mount

7/15/2008 11:48:36 PM