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7/13/2007 9:01:38 PM

watched the first 20 minutes of survivorman tonight and its ok, i still prefer MvW

[Edited on July 13, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason : i'm gonna watch the rest of sm when i have the chance too]

7/13/2007 10:17:59 PM

Let's be real: survivorman is more boring.

He might have to carry the camera, but he still takes more survival gear with him. He also might do more sensible things, but it's still boring and not as bad ass as man v wild. I couldn't care less if survivorman is more educational than mvw -- I don't see myself in the same situation anytime soon.

7/14/2007 1:08:46 AM

And survivorman seems like a dufus

7/14/2007 1:39:54 AM

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" TKEshultz All American 4623 Posts user info edit post good job les on his walden pond/thoreau adventure.... Quote : "Grylls passed UK Special Forces Selection, serving as a sabre soldier, trained in unarmed combat, desert and winter warfare, combat survival, medics, parachuting, signals, evasive driving, climbing and explosives" if i was trapped in the wilderness, i would rather have bear with me anyday Quote : "Grylls' first book titled Facing Up, went into the UK top 10 best-seller list, and was launched in the USA titled, The Kid Who Climbed Everest. Its subject is his expedition, at 23 years old, to climb to the summit of Mount Everest. The book details the climb, from his first reconnaissance climb on which he fell in a crevasse and was knocked unconscious, coming to swinging on the end of a rope, to the grueling ascent that took him over ninety days of extreme weather, sleep deprivation and almost running out of oxygen inside the death zone. " not to mention he did this right after breaking his back from a 16,000 foot freefall "

so, pretty much, your support for this guy stems from his obviously poor planning and execution as well as (despite his world class training) his inability to properly operate his top-dollar high tech equipment
what it boils down to, essentially , is that every time he failed, he didn't fail so horribly that he died. Or, more susinctly, he has never failed to fuck up at failing

generally, this is where someone feels the need to drop the logic-bomb of "WELL LET'S SEE YOU DO IT"

[Edited on July 14, 2007 at 10:17 AM. Reason : .]

7/14/2007 10:16:52 AM

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"every time he failed, he didn't fail so horribly that he died."

A smart man will anticipate a failure and be able to minimize it. A lesser man will be naive enough to think they won't happen.

Hard to make a case against the guy if he has managed to stay (mostly) in one piece after taking so many risks.

7/14/2007 12:39:45 PM

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"I don't see myself in the same situation anytime soon"

does anyone?

7/14/2007 12:40:33 PM

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"And survivorman seems like a dufus"

ill give you that one, when he was trying to break apart the rock by throwing it against the ground i couldnt help thinking to myself "are you serious? do you know anything about neolithic culture?"

7/14/2007 12:44:52 PM

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"A smart man will anticipate a failure and be able to minimize it. A lesser man will be naive enough to think they won't happen."

Agreed. He obviously didn't plan his shit right.

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"Hard to make a case against the guy if he has managed to stay (mostly) in one piece after taking so many risks."

Wrong. I'm just not capable of respecting a man's talents just because he gets his ass handed to him by things like dirt, air, and water on a pretty regular basis

7/14/2007 3:02:24 PM

OMG I'M ABOUT TO SAY SOMETHING

[Edited on July 14, 2007 at 9:12 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2007 9:04:04 PM

what the fuck

did anyone else see him doing naked push-ups in the snow?

NOW THAT'S SURVIVAL

Did I fail to mention his excuse was to warm himself up after INTENTIONALLY JUMPING INTO AN ICE-COLD CREEK TO DEMONSTRATE HOW TO ESCAPE FROM A FROZEN POND?

This fag will die within 2 years and I'm going to feel absolutely ZERO pain for him

7/14/2007 9:06:07 PM

survivorman runs shit fuck Bitch Grillz

7/14/2007 9:07:56 PM

^ & ^^ yeah that was nuts (no pun intended)

but this is sort of turning into an outdoorsy version of Jackass, to say the least. obviously it's not so hard to get out that he needs to conserve energy, since he has all this extra time and energy to spend "demonstrating" survival techniques

7/14/2007 9:09:42 PM

Hah

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6911748.stm

Survivor Man wins.

7/24/2007 11:13:54 AM

Wasn't that posted in The Dude's Man Vs Wild thread yesterday?

7/24/2007 11:14:54 AM

heh sucks for that show's future

7/24/2007 11:16:57 AM

when and what channel does the show that doesnt suck come on(survivorman)

i always hated the way that bear grylls guy talked but now this channel 4 article confirms he sucks

7/24/2007 11:20:15 AM

why can't everyone just get along?

7/24/2007 11:20:44 AM

because your giant sunglasses aren't hiding the fact that your boyfriend beats you

7/24/2007 11:22:12 AM

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"Channel 4 said in a statement that Born Survivor was "not an observational documentary series, but a 'how-to' guide to basic survival techniques in extreme environments". "The programme explicitly does not claim that presenter Bear Grylls' experience is one of unaided solo survival. "For example, he often directly addresses the production team, including the cameraman, making it clear he is receiving an element of back-up." "

way to backpedal

7/24/2007 11:23:21 AM

I'm not buying into that BBC news BS. You guys are all assholes if you are going to believe everything the media tells you. Its the medias job to ruin the credibility of everyone they possibly can, you know that!

By the way, anyone that calls Bear a fag is pretty fucking stupid.

7/24/2007 11:46:50 AM

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"You guys are all assholes if you are going to believe everything the media tells you."

apply that logic next time you watch Man vs. Wild

7/24/2007 11:50:02 AM

i cant stand the way he says the word vitamin

7/24/2007 11:52:18 AM

i just put on a dvr man vs wild and at the beginning he announces the rules - no interaction is allowed except in a life or death situation

7/24/2007 12:33:48 PM

Apparently you retards need me to post this in this thread too

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article2116195.ece

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" an adviser to Born Survivor has disclosed that at one location where the adventurer claimed to be a “real life Robin-son Crusoe” trapped on “a desert island”, he was actually on an outlying part of the Hawaiian archipelago and spent nights at a motel."

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"On another occasion in California’s Sierra Nevada mountains where he was filmed biting off the head of a snake for breakfast and struggling for survival “with just a water bottle, a cup and a flint for making fire”, he actually slept some nights with the crew in a lodge fitted with television and internet access. The Pines Resort at Bass Lake is advertised as “a cosy getaway for families” with blueberry pancakes for breakfast."

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"In one episode Grylls, son of the late Tory MP Sir Michael Grylls, was shown apparently building a Polynesian-style raft using only materials around him, including bamboo, hibiscus twine and palm leaves for a sail. But according to Mark Weinert, an Oregon-based survival consultant brought in for the job, it was he who led the team that built the raft. It was then dismantled so that Grylls could be shown building it on camera. "

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"In another episode viewers watched as Grylls tried to coax an apparently wild mustang into a lasso in the Sierra Nevada. “I’m in luck,” he told viewers, apparently coming across four wild horses grazing in a meadow. “A chance to use an old native American mode of transport comes my way. This is one of the few places in the whole of the US where horses still roam wild.” In fact, Weinert said, the horses were not wild but were brought in by trailer from a nearby trekking station for the “choreographed” feature. "

Like I said before, the show is complete bullshit. I don't blame Bear either. He put in his time doing real shit, now he is just raking in some cash.

But every one of you is a retard who thinks MvW is more "authentic" or "real" than Survivorman. Bear probably COULD do fine on his own, but he isn't.

7/24/2007 12:35:12 PM

thats just what he wants you to believe



he is still not alone and he has water and flint / something les never has
except on the "at sea" episode... i think Les did have some water

les never has flint to make fire

7/24/2007 12:35:36 PM

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"les never has flint to make fire"

he had a "magnesium stick" which doubled as a flint on the Canyonland episode...but he says he brings along one piece of commercially-available survival gear to test each time

7/24/2007 12:57:51 PM

I screamed like a little girl when Bear ate the spider's hindparts.

7/24/2007 1:08:18 PM

^^true

[Edited on July 24, 2007 at 1:09 PM. Reason : and i should have known that ]

7/24/2007 1:08:52 PM

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"But every one of you is a retard who thinks MvW is more "authentic" or "real" than Survivorman. "

meh, i dont think its more real or authentic, but i do think its more entertaining

7/24/2007 1:27:12 PM

Ut-oh....looks like somebody was staying at the Hilton.


http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article2116195.ece

7/26/2007 10:31:45 AM

^ that's about the third time that article has been reprinted...i want results of the "investigation"!

7/26/2007 10:39:33 AM

My bad for not being in TWW loop. I don't have the time or the desire to read every damn thread.

We need a better search engine.

7/26/2007 10:45:11 AM

Either way, Les is a whiney bitch. I would much rather watch a dude that moves around and does shit than listen to Wes whine and bitch about the camera equipment, and watch him sit on his ass for most of the episode.

7/26/2007 10:59:36 AM

but does he get to have his camera man and crew carry all his equipment back to his hotel for the night?

put it all in the correct frame of reference

i used to like bear alot more than the suvivor dude, but now that it has all come out that he cheats, I will watch both shows equally

7/26/2007 11:05:32 AM

yeah I agree. before I fought gunzz pretty hard on why MvW was better than survivorman. I think I could still watch the show but it is tainted now. Survivorman all the way.

7/26/2007 11:09:27 AM

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"My bad for not being in TWW loop. I don't have the time or the desire to read every damn thread. We need a better search engine. "

it was posted 6 posts up

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"Either way, Les is a whiney bitch"

and bear isnt..i've heard him whine constantly on his show and he even whines while cheating...

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"After his marriage to Sue Jamison in 1994, the two of them spent one year living in the Canadian wilderness living a paleolithic existence. They travelled to Goldsborough Lake ( 50°41'55?N, 89°20'46?W) deep in the Wabakimi and built a cabin with no metal, plastic, or otherwise manufactured tools. They took a store of traditional foods and attempted to supplement it by hunting and trapping. Family and medical emergencies brought them out of the bush on two occasions. Their primitive living experience was filmed by Stroud and released as the 50 minute documentary, Snowshoes and Solitude, which was named Best Documentary at the Muskoka Film Festival and Best Film at the Waterwalker Film Festival.[8] "

that alone makes Les a bad motherfucker

7/26/2007 11:12:49 AM

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 11:14 AM. Reason : ]

7/26/2007 11:14:25 AM

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"meh, i dont think its more real or authentic, but i do think its more entertaining"

One is like pro-wrestling, the other is like illegal cage match to the death.

[Edited on July 26, 2007 at 3:40 PM. Reason : /]

7/26/2007 12:34:23 PM

Man vs Wild: This is what I'd do if I was all alone and in a survival situation
Survivorman: This is what Im doing, currently in a semi-survival situation, by myself in the wilderness.

7/26/2007 3:39:57 PM

I like both shows, and I'm sure whatever either of them show would help in the event of a survival situation......if I had to rule one way or the other though it'd be in favor of Les Stroud because one episode of MvW when Bear was supposed to be using a backpack full of clothes as a "floatation" device while navigating a river. However when he stops to talk to the cameras you can clearly see a lifejacket floating up his neck under his regular jacket..

7/26/2007 4:17:44 PM

I wouldn't think using a backpack of clothes would work for a flotation device...

7/26/2007 4:34:13 PM

I was wondering if anyone has asked this yet (if so, sorry) but:

Who would win in a fight, Bear Grylls or Les Stroud?

7/26/2007 4:38:18 PM

Chuck Norris

7/26/2007 4:50:54 PM

ahah you gay fuckin sons of bitches that were all nuthuggin on that faggot grylls

take yall butthurt asses on and watch a real survivalist at his craft...SURVIVOR MAN

7/26/2007 7:43:05 PM

i hope you dont mind if i take bitch grylls from you...has a good ring to it

7/26/2007 7:44:44 PM

i dont mind one bit, use it all over this stupid ass thread

WWE = BG
UFC = LS

7/26/2007 7:46:30 PM

haha

i dont get why discovery has 2 shows that are so similar....i wonder how bitch grylls shows would be if he carried the 50 pounds of camera stuff

7/26/2007 7:51:07 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2934925920070730

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" Grylls is the star of "Man vs. Wild," an increasingly popular series on Discovery Channel that recently concluded its second season. Each episode he parachutes into a different uninhabited territory without a map or much else in the way of camping equipment and spends several days trying to find his way back to civilization. But this British adventurer is now the subject of an investigation by U.K.'s Channel 4, which already has confirmed that Grylls checked into motels on a few occasions when he was depicted on TV having slept under the stars. Other allegations have been made suggesting that the crew that records Grylls in action isn't as hands-off as it might appear to viewers."

FACE

"On the news, they showed a clip from an episode where Grylls approaches "wild horses" and attempts to ride them, when they were actually horses that were rented from a local riding stable"

[Edited on July 31, 2007 at 3:06 AM. Reason : .]

7/31/2007 2:59:57 AM

this is your warning for pic bombing this picture

[Edited on July 31, 2007 at 9:47 AM. Reason : -gunzz]

7/31/2007 3:06:59 AM