AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
BUT IT SHOWS HOW GOOD A PERSON ROY WILLIAMS IS! SHOWS HOW HE HAS A LITTLE MORE IN THE HEART TANK THAN EVERYONE ELSE. PROVES THAT UNC FAGS ARE ALL BETTER THAN US BY EXTENSION!
DON'T YOU GET IT MAN?! THEY ARE LEAPS AND BOUNDS BETTER THAN US IN EVERY WAY. UNC EVEN RISKS THEIR OWN REPUTATION SEVERAL TIMES YEARLY TO GO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF NOBODY TEAMS WHO ARE CLOSE TO THEIR PLAYERS HOMETOWNS. FUCKING CHRIST HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THE LIGHT? IT'S DANGEROUS! THEY COULD LOSE... WHAT WOULD WE DO THEN?! WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THEY LOST. ALL HAIL ROY WILLIAMS (DRINKS KOOLAID AND DIES) 12/10/2010 11:49:00 AM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
lol 12/10/2010 11:49:53 AM |
Bullet All American 28262 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Quote : | "...but a year or so of getting pounded inside by men..." |
i'm not a big fan of the whole "unc is gay"-stuff, but that quote if godam funny.12/10/2010 12:58:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You'd usually call a coach insane for choosing to send his team to a true road game at an upset-minded Missouri Valley school." |
.....12/10/2010 1:19:36 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
BDS? 12/10/2010 1:24:48 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "N.C. State has played two (at UNC-G, at New Orleans)" |
at ECU?12/10/2010 1:28:06 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
@ Davidson?
I can't find the actual schedule but it says we played an away game against them in 08-09.
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ~] 12/10/2010 1:35:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
that was in Charlotte (which is closer to Davidson than Raleigh) but technically it was neutral site
but theres no fucking way we have 2 road games against mid majors in 5 years, thats just bullshit
although its meaningless too...road games at Syracuse and Wisconsin are tougher than playing at a fucking mid major school
^I was at the game...it was in Time Warner Arena in downtown Charlotte...however it was pretty much all Davidson students down low with State fans in the upper deck...I think it was technically a home game for Davidson, but I was just pointing out that it wasn't actually in their home building
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 1:50 PM. Reason : hope that makes any sense] 12/10/2010 1:38:21 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I can't believe unc-ch fans are bragging about playing mid-majors on the road. Really? 12/10/2010 1:45:58 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Take a look at Duke, N.C. State, and North Carolina's last five schedules including this year's. Carolina has played six true road games at mid-majors (schools not in Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, Big 12, SEC). Duke has played one (later this season at UNC-G). N.C. State has played two (at UNC-G, at New Orleans). It's pretty clear who has the most dangerous schedule."" |
Don't some of those games they play vs mid-majors have to do with honoring seniors on the team by playing a game near their hometown?
For example, I remember they played at Cleveland State a few years back because Jawad was from there.12/10/2010 1:58:33 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
...That's what the whole article was about Ribs
and that journalist sucking UNC's dick 12/10/2010 2:14:48 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I should have done more than just skim the last page before replying then 12/10/2010 2:19:11 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Haha I never get tired of the "______ is sucking UNC's dick" comments.
People lose all reasoning and objectivity when it comes to sports hahaha 12/10/2010 2:42:54 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Did you read the article? Does it not seem a little over the top in terms of love for UNC/Roy Williams? I used a derogatory phrase to describe it, yes... But if it looks like a journalistic dick suck, and it sounds like a journalistic dick suck
By god I'ma call it suckin dick 12/10/2010 2:48:29 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
not really, if the same exact article was written about State/Lowe you wouldnt be like "now hold on! that isnt fair to poor old Roy! Lets be reasonable!" 12/10/2010 2:51:15 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
but really, their schedule is a lot harder because they've gone to places like Evansville 5 times in the last 5 years while State's only gone twice? who gives a shit. tell them that they're doing a good job letting the players play in their home state, don't try to tell me it makes the schedule a lot harder
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM. Reason : ~] 12/10/2010 2:58:14 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
AstralEngine is absolutely right. I read the article and its not just a typical article, IC journo articles have less bias than that article. 12/10/2010 3:25:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
I love how Jaybee went from an actual objective Sports Talk poster who occasionally had to put a State fan in check when he claimed a media conspiracy
To someone who is so full of his supposed objectivity that he now automatically thinks ANY complaint anyone on TWW has about some type of media bias is total bullshit without a thread of truth
Jaybee1200 Credibility Watch] 12/10/2010 3:42:46 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
99% of the time the media conspiracy is just a bunch of shit... I seriously doubt reporters have these sneaky motives to put down other teams. Only motive is to try to write a good article. Even if they did intentionally write bad about a team they would write bad about the "favored" team because that would cause more controversy and drum up interest. Its like no one would write an article about the Yankees being good to "suck their dick" and screw Baltimore.
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 3:56 PM. Reason : d] 12/10/2010 3:55:37 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
You're the first person to say anything about this dude being part of a conspiracy 12/10/2010 3:57:46 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
fight fight
objectivity battle
But seriously, UNC shouldn't recieve praise for going to mid-majors to play just because their cross town rivals, Duke, are the kings of being dicks and not traveling anywhere.
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ] 12/10/2010 3:58:47 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, let me clarify
conspiracy, motive to put down a certain team, motive to build up a certain team 12/10/2010 4:01:11 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Considering that the owner of Curtis Media group is on UNC's BOG is it really that much of a step? Seriously though I am just challenging this guy's objectivity. To give a coach praise for scheduling cupcake road games vs. road games against actual opponents is ridiculous. 12/10/2010 4:01:46 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
^ Tin foil hat
^^ Dude just said he was sucking UNC's dick, nothing about trashing State in the process. You can suck a dick without stepping on another guy's nuts. So I've heard. 12/10/2010 4:02:42 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I guess my point is he might be stupid, and he might be wrong, as in interpreting what data is important and what isnt, but I just dont think he literally sat down at his computer and said "hmmm, how can I suck UNC's dick in this article..." 12/10/2010 4:03:44 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know what his intentions were
But the result is a UNC dick-suckin' column 12/10/2010 4:04:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
so he sat down at his computer and thought "hmmmm...how could i write something that makes one of the most storied programs in college basketball history...playing mid major teams...sound impressive"] 12/10/2010 4:25:12 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
no, I think he saw some stat and thought "I will write a story about that", or "so much has been written about UNC, let me see if I can find something no one has written"
just like you decided to pose for this picture
12/10/2010 4:28:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
thats a photoshop 12/10/2010 4:29:06 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
UNC played @Evansville to honer Zeller.
and because Roy doesn't have the guts to schedule an away game at Indiana, Notre Dame, or Purdue. 12/10/2010 4:29:48 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
you are right, they added a few branches to the tree on the left 12/10/2010 4:30:12 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
all you have to do is look at Tim Hall's body of work. He wrote about how everyone shouldn't worry about Harrison Barnes going 0-fer that one game, that he still raises the dead and invented sliced bread. What kind of "journalist" gets on a freshman's nuts like a sorority girl like that? 12/10/2010 4:49:04 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I LOL'd 12/10/2010 5:21:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28262 Posts user info edit post |
Hmmmm.
Do you also think that the majority of the mainstream media not liberal in nature?
Or that foxnews is not conservative?
To say that they are is un-objective? 12/10/2010 6:16:59 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I think the majority of the PEOPLE that make up the media are probably more left leaning in their personal beliefs. But that doesnt mean that I think newspapers in general get together and plan out some complex liberal agenda to throw in their paper and it doesnt mean that people are bad writers or biased writers.
For example, in sports, a writer from Tennessee is likely to be a Tennessee fan, but that doesnt mean that his paper is a "Tennessee" paper in terms of being biased, and it doesnt mean he doesnt have the ability to write about Tennessee in a bad way or about some team that is totally unrelated.
You are all confusing fans with journalists.
[Edited on December 10, 2010 at 6:21 PM. Reason : s] 12/10/2010 6:21:23 PM |
Bullet All American 28262 Posts user info edit post |
that journalist was sucking UNC's dick 12/10/2010 6:31:35 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
lol, playing @ Evansville is so tuff 12/10/2010 9:58:35 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Let's take a look at some excerpts...
Quote : | "...Or was it a home game? For the Tar Heels' best player it was, and it happened thanks to Roy Williams' scheduling." |
It wasn't "due to" or "because of," it was "thanks to.:
Quote : | "I respect Roy for scheduling games like Evansville and for falling in line with a Carolina tradition that started long ago." |
I respect? We don't give a shit about reporters feelings, but he wanted you to know how he feels about Roy.
Quote : | "And what I really like about it, it spits in the face of that tired old scheduling philosophy I mentioned above of the big guy never going on the road to the little guy because there's nothing to gain. " |
Here we get imagery of Roy Williams spitting in the face of... well, everyone.
Quote : | "It's annoying when teams never step out of their comfort zone. Roy Williams and Carolina go out of their way to do the opposite. " |
Not only is this journalist annoyed by, apparently, ever other team as a result, but Roy Williams GOES OUT OF HIS WAY to do this stand up thing.
Quote : | "I know Duke plays true non-conference road games. But not as many as North Carolina." |
Here we have some Duke comparing happening in favor of UNC
Quote : | "Take a look at Duke, N.C. State, and North Carolina's last five schedules including this year's." |
Now throw NC State into the comparative pool, still favorably to UNC.
Quote : | "We've been ripping on Roy Williams a lot lately. But I guess that'll happen when you call out ESPN and the media when a supposed freshman sensation has some struggles at the start of his career.
I don't agree with everything Roy Williams says or does - like kicking out a fan for yelling at a guy shooting free throws, or blaming media for a freshman's struggles. But taking risks on the schedule to show appreciation for your players...I'm all for it." |
And in true persuasive textbook form, he opens and closes with some slights at Roy. An attempt to frame his praises in put downs so as to not come off as a total dick sucker, but which is totally see through. Obvious ploy is obvious.
this article is not objective at all. I don't think it's part of any conspiracy of the media one way or the other, but it's definitely an article where the journalist is taking one in the mouth for Roy Williams, and by extension UNC bball.
Quote : | "I don't know what his intentions were [when he thought up the piece]
But the result is a UNC dick-suckin' column" |
12/13/2010 12:04:18 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I think some of you guys are missing the point. Dude was sucking UNC's dick in a blog post. Rail on him for drinking the kool-aid, fine. But it doesn't illegitimize his journalistic integrity. It was an editorial arena, not a fact-reporting article. It's like dudes who call sports radio and bitch about bias and guys not reporting all the facts -- he's not reporting, he's writing a fluff piece. Totally separate things.
Quote : | "this article is not objective at all." |
Like this
It's a column, a blog post -- that's why I called it such in the post you quoted. Articles are not columns. You can write whatever the fuck you want in a column, that's point. Hate on him solely for blowing UNC, not for where he did it.
Basically, he's totally allowed to slurp on Carolina or whoever on the WRAL blog.]12/13/2010 12:16:46 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^ 12/13/2010 12:19:55 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45166 Posts user info edit post |
all 3 teams have had pretty solid ooc schedules this year. UNC probably has performed the worst of the 3 with a 'lucky' win vs. a over rated kentucky.
when you beat long beach by 5 it might say something about your program...
[Edited on December 13, 2010 at 12:33 PM. Reason : s] 12/13/2010 12:33:27 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNC probably has performed the worst of the 3 with a 'lucky' win vs. a over rated kentucky." |
While IC is a cesspool of UNC bias, UNC has done better at real OOC than we have. We are 0-3. Unc is 1-3. We can beat Zona and go 1-3, but who knows, they are doing better than we are. A win is a win to the NCAA committee. This isn't BCS football where Boise and TCU have to beat opponents by 30. Their are truly no moral victories to the NCAA committee in March. On a side note, Duke is dominating with KState, MSU, and the other team they beat before KState. Unc being reduced to making a topic out of Evansville is just grandstadning before Duke lays it on them twice this season. Of course that has nothing to do with us, we will get pounded by Duke, but UNC has slightly loftier expectations.12/13/2010 1:02:10 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
thread title: "I really thought our fan base would be excited about Nashville"
haha, its 3 pages worth of explaining why about 75% of the posters over there are NOT going to the bowl game.
One fan sums it up nicely:
Quote : | "Why aren't people jumping all over the tickets through UNC?
1 - disappointing season.....face it....as much heart and soul and fight as this group has shown, we all hoped this was going to be a 10-2, 11-1 or 12-0 season and a win in the ACC title game and off to the Orange Bowl....at worst it was to be the Peach Bowl.
2 - 7-5 vs. 6-6? That's not a draw from afar.
3 - checked the economy lately?
4 - Nashville is chilly in December.....it's not a warm weather bowl game.
5 - The investigation.
6 - The hope and excitement that surrounded the program 6 months ago is now a silent prayer that the NCAA doesn't levy major sanctions.
7 - If you aren't high up in the Rams Club, your seats through UNC will be poor." |
excuses excuses, but they'll tell everyone that they travel as well as anyone in the country except Bama12/13/2010 2:12:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nashville is chilly in December.....it's not a warm weather bowl game." |
buncha fairweather faggots12/13/2010 2:34:53 PM |
izzykareem All American 2621 Posts user info edit post |
in their defense, French Brie is very unmanageable at low temperatures 12/13/2010 3:07:00 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, what a bunch of bitches.
Apparently, the Music City Bowl is known as "The Cold Bowl". I am from right outside of Nashville, been to several Music City Bowls (including the first one) and had never heard this term before but now I have heard it from Clemson, UNC, and Bama fans. Really odd, its not like its in Michigan or Idaho, its not that much further north than Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, etc 12/13/2010 3:14:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148211 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let's just be honest about this:
Tickets: around $50 Gas both ways: #200 Motel room for at least two nights: 200 Food: around $100 per person
It would be very hard to go and come back for less than $500. Right at Christmas time to see a 7-5 vs a 6-6.
I'm a Tar Heel but that's just way to much for me to spend at this point and time." |
you're gonna spend $100 per person on food for like 2 days? what are you eating steak every meal?12/13/2010 5:17:00 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure thats drinks too
What do you do, go on vacation and drink Sprite the whole time? 12/13/2010 5:21:37 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
probably including drinks, tips, cover, cabs etc. Should have said "going out" 12/13/2010 5:22:08 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Wine and cheese can be expensive. 12/13/2010 5:23:59 PM |