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https://matlabmadness.ytmnd.com

4/17/2023 7:46:59 PM

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That's a whoopsie?

4/20/2023 9:51:52 AM

bbehe
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The announcers really kept trying to say everything was fine as the thing was doing flips

4/20/2023 1:52:49 PM

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so technically they are claiming that the flight was only to test the release from the launch pad. Which there are a thousand simpler/cheaper ways to do that instead of having a full scale launch to attempted orbit. Right off the bat at ignition they had three engine failures, with another one a few seconds after clearing the pad, then I think two more later in flight. Which is insane. They are yet to have a successful test even where all boosters fired at 100% and there wasn't a failure. Admittedly, you can have failures when you have a thousand engines, and that brings into play whether you want to focus more on redundancy vs. reliability, but there are clearly some serious quality assurance issues going on.

Even their ground systems are questionable, I heard that tons of chunks of concrete got blown off the pad, including one that hit some poor guy's car. Which is interesting, because you can't park anywhere near the pad, so it had to have been blown like miles away from the pad.

4/20/2023 2:01:41 PM

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I've seen people on reddit say the concrete on the pad caused some of the engine failures

https://twitter.com/labpadre/status/1649062784167030785

It certainly does not look in great shape.

4/20/2023 2:04:47 PM

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Wraith, watch the ocean in this video


https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1649097087248891904

4/21/2023 7:36:55 PM

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Not sure if this pic will work, but the pad was absolutely destroyed. There is a reason that pads of this size have flame trenches to redirect all of that energy...



[Edited on April 24, 2023 at 2:44 PM. Reason : ]

4/24/2023 2:44:13 PM

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That's way worse than the other pic i saw

I remember though the first dragon landing was really bad, but they fixed the problems and improved it very rapidly. The super heavy was designed to fly with multiple engines out, the problem happened on the roll, and it didn't seem intrinsic to the design (assuming it was a range abort that blew up the craft when it failed).

the destroyed launchpad is a bad sign though, if the rumors that Musk personally intervened to stop the building of the flame trenches are true.

4/24/2023 4:35:56 PM

The Coz
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Looks like Russia bombed the launchpad.

That's why you need a Sea Dragon.



Tears For Fears will get us to the moon and beyond every time!

4/24/2023 7:21:58 PM

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Russia's Luna-25 crashed into the moon near the Shackleton Crater. Looks like Ed Baldwin was able to sabotage it. Nice job, fellas!

8/20/2023 8:11:24 AM

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^You sure it wasn't Margot working from the inside?

8/21/2023 2:01:01 PM

The Coz
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Another tantalizing possibility. Tune in to Season 4 to find out!

8/21/2023 2:07:32 PM

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Russia, let India show you how to do it.

8/24/2023 9:28:04 PM

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The first thing I thought of were decepticons lol

[Edited on August 24, 2023 at 11:25 PM. Reason : -]

8/24/2023 11:25:50 PM

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Nasa collected asteroid dust today

9/24/2023 10:59:57 PM

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Good try Astrobotic

1/9/2024 12:38:50 AM

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RIP Gene Roddenberry's Ashes



GNSP

1/9/2024 7:20:52 AM

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On the plus side, the maiden voyage of the Vulcan was successful. Lots of ULA friends are super pumped about that.

1/9/2024 12:24:01 PM

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In a move that should be surprising to no one, NASA has delayed the moon landing until 2026.

1/9/2024 6:03:52 PM

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Watched the whole thing several weeks ago. Was worth the time for me, but interested in industry insider perspectives.

1/9/2024 6:11:49 PM

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Man. I don't wanna watch an hour long video about work stuff when I'm not at work. What are the cliff notes?

1/12/2024 10:20:09 AM

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Artemis approach is a boondoggle.

It's not overtly critical, but just asking probing questions and raising certain concerns. If the comments are any indication, and they may not be, it hits home for some. It's easy enough to watch, but I understand not wanting to watch work topics when off work. Pretend it's an episode of For All Mankind! Activate a good ad-blocker that works for YouTube and split it up into 3 or 4 sessions, maybe. Or not.

1/12/2024 5:20:02 PM

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RIP Peregrine One. Burned up in atmosphere.

1/19/2024 11:18:31 PM

The Coz
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Seems like it's harder to land on the moon than on asteroids and Mars? Is this purely recency bias, or are there important technical drivers behind the difference?

2/26/2024 6:55:54 PM

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I just thought of a big problem. If they want you to be deserted etc, do you at least get a few free moments to masturbate? Seems like if isolated on mars, would have to not be under cameras at least some of the time

2/26/2024 8:03:09 PM

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^^There are some aspects. Mars having an atmosphere makes it easier to slow down via drag. The speed of light lag from Mars though is an issue. If you are purely unmanned, Mars is harder as getting there is a thing (there is a thing called the Great Galactic Ghoul that likes to eat spacecrafts between Earth and Mars), then you gotta go through the entirety of EDL without any communication or anything, entirely autonomously. Throw humans on though and they can land themselves with relative easy.

2/27/2024 1:39:00 PM

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Thanks. Yeah, I saw Ed Baldwin do it with an MSAM, like no big deal.

2/27/2024 1:40:46 PM

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No one mentioned Starship finally making it to space (and then failing).

3/17/2024 12:13:18 AM

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Yawn

3/17/2024 2:53:03 AM

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It's kind of important since this is still planned to be a vehicle of primary importance for manned moon missions. Eventually they need it to stop blowing up.

3/17/2024 8:59:53 AM

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The plan to get HLS to the moon is certifiably insane.

Starship/HLS needs to be able to launch and make it to orbit

The refueler Starship needs to launch 10x times in rapid succession and refuel HLS.

SpaceX is not even close to being able to do this and the ability to refuel is still an unknown.

3/17/2024 9:59:21 AM

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Great analysis. That is some of the concern espoused in the above posted YouTube video.

3/17/2024 10:29:47 AM

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