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Lol okay bud

6/30/2022 8:05:44 PM

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mmhmmm

you never responded to this:

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" in no way have I been knocking voting. I’ve never missed an election of any kind since I turned 18.

Im knocking the notion that the best way to fight fascism is to get out and vote

todays announcement is essentially them saying “we’re going to make sure your votes don’t count”

which is exactly why we need those in power and with a majority to do everything in their power to make sure that doesn’t happen. things like expanding the court and abolishing the filibuster, both things that routinely get eyerolls from you"


[Edited on June 30, 2022 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2022 8:09:43 PM

bbehe
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Was there a question in there?

6/30/2022 8:17:50 PM

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you accuse me of knocking voting

apologies for not responding in the form of a question

[Edited on June 30, 2022 at 8:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2022 8:30:43 PM

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Simon Sez, "Why are you accusing me of knocking voting?" for $1000, Alex Ken Mayim.

6/30/2022 9:07:16 PM

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from yesterday:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/roe-supreme-court-justices-1378046/

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" SCOTUS Justices ‘Prayed With’ Her — Then Cited Her Bosses to End Roe

A right-wing evangelical activist was caught on tape bragging that she prayed with Supreme Court justices. The court’s majority cited a legal brief that her group filed while overturning Roe v. Wade"

7/7/2022 1:44:27 PM

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"Biden Administration makes clear the standard to be applied to all future “protests” of administration and elected officials with their families at restaurants or anywhere in public. https://t.co/VO7QEpFv0s"
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Glad they are endorsing protest of course but oh I wish she had answered at the end "Brett Kavanaugh just officially ruled he does not believe in a right to privacy"

7/9/2022 7:11:40 AM

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I honestly don’t know if you are happy people get accosted in restaurants with their family or not

7/9/2022 7:17:31 AM

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I don't think anyone was accosted in this case but fuck yes people that actively work to ruin people's lives should never have a moment of peace.

And literally, as I said, Brett Kavanaugh just denied a right too privacy. He doesn't believe he has that right.

7/9/2022 7:36:44 AM

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Don't think we have a fed Judiciary cred watch so will just put this here.
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"Time for a completely new federal judiciary, the one we have is broken beyond repair: https://t.co/RsDhzUyjDq (Via @ShortCircuit_IJ.) https://t.co/mZD7iYHlSw"



[Edited on July 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM. Reason : E]

7/17/2022 10:37:29 AM

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http://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1552743092150800384

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" In his Rome speech on religious liberty, Justice Alito mocked "foreign leaders" who condemned his opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, including Boris Johnson, Macron, Trudeau, and ... Prince Harry.

Of Boris, Alito quipped: "He paid the price." https://t.co/NPqalw0KA6 https://t.co/xC0qguZ31n"

7/28/2022 10:02:46 PM

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"FBI director Chris Wray admitted to @SenWhitehouse today that the bureau punted some 4,500 tips about Kavanaugh's sexual misconduct to the Trump White House in 2018, which then got to decide who the FBI interviewed in its sham investigation. https://t.co/jfig7CLYFX"


Hmmm seems like something that could be re addressed

8/5/2022 9:23:06 AM

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Huge case in process about whether state legislatures should have full control over federal elections

12/7/2022 10:14:26 AM

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Clarence Thomas Secretly Accepted Luxury Trips From Major GOP Donor

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1643929027353124864

4/6/2023 10:02:31 AM

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Impeach him before they lose the senate

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 10:09 AM. Reason : Need house like president ]

4/6/2023 10:08:33 AM

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Our political system is so broken

4/6/2023 10:11:21 AM

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It's definitely broken, but I wonder if it's significantly more broken than in the past, or if we're more systemically aware of it (those who pay attention, anyway)?

There's no shortage of corruption and graft in our political history. I don't use that to in any way justify current behavior, but just to check my sanity and cynicism.

4/6/2023 11:58:58 AM

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I think we're doing better than ever.

We like to talk about rights and everything but a 150 years ago, especially in the less connected areas, lawlessness was rampant. A lot of people (women, blackppl) obviously didn't have rights.

The supreme court (now overturned), at one point justified slavery.

The more progressive you get, you will obviously encounter roadblocks on the way as every system at its root is beholden to the general idea of what is permissible. We now, at least in some circles, mock the idea that the federal government can tell you who you can marry. 15 years ago most Democrats weren't opposed.

The beauty is that along this whole way, the system we call broken, has progressed along and slowly but surely worked. Everyone at their own time has called the system broken because we aren't getting instant results and cause we have an opposition that is dumb and can have some control.
But I would argue that the system being broken is what allows it to progress. If it wasn't so "inefficient" and "slow", at one point one side would've taken too much control and spun it out of balance to the point where the system completely breaks and we are set back.
This could be the result of either a conservative authoritarian movement or a progressive revolution. If you don't have the "ying yang" of sorts, you don't end up anywhere but behind.

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 12:11 PM. Reason : bad people are still bad, but they are necessary in some form or the other]

4/6/2023 12:10:05 PM

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and that doesn't mean we should be moderates

my point is that it is a process
and the chaos is good
we progress through chaos

a lack of chaos is the true chaos

liken this to a utopia
any utopia would be founded in and out of dystopia

4/6/2023 12:14:33 PM

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"We now, at least in some circles, mock the idea that the federal government can tell you who you can marry. 15 years ago most Democrats weren't opposed.
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I don't even knwo what you mean by the last part but the government can still tell you who you can marry and the worry is the current scotus may return us to a more restrictive area. Scotus has also been removing women's rights and blurring/erasing the separation of church and state. Meanwhile as least two members are fairly obviously corrupt but we can't do anything about it.

System has always been broken in favor of money, incremental progress being forced through doesn't mean the system is doing great.

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"slowly but surely worked"


...for people with money

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 12:46 PM. Reason : E]

4/6/2023 12:45:13 PM

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15 years ago the support for gay marriage was probably 1% of what it is now in media and im pretry sure I recall obama or biden echoing that in some quote somewhere

even most conservatives don't openly say that the government should prohibit it
now the rhetoric is mostly that "don't impose your stuff on us" which is used to justify bad things where they are the antagonists, but nonetheless there is very obvious progress

"for people with money"
yeah lmao, of course people with money are gonna do better in any system
that is common sense
I don't see how that in any way negates how far we have come
people are just richer now cause of technology and its insane effects

I'm not saying that we should be happy with the present at all and not talk about issues

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2023 12:49:25 PM

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You're talking about the natural progress of society not the performance of our american government system.

That said Florida just passed a don't say gay bill and many places are removing books that feature same sex couples and are actively taking Healthcare decisions into government hands for trans people.


Were going backwards in terms of rights

4/6/2023 1:00:58 PM

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Do you not expect pushback and reverbations with such a change in society?

I think that these fundamental differences between states is good in the long run for those very rights because it is harder to change things federally and if it doesn't go your way - rip.

The problem is that mobility is becoming more and more difficult.


[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 1:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2023 1:38:31 PM

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"The problem is that mobility is becoming more and more difficult."

How so?

4/6/2023 3:26:49 PM

emnsk
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/american-workers-moving-states-.html?referringSource=articleShare

note - For anyone who doesn't have NYT (state gives it for free, nice) you can use archive.is to view the article by the way


The American Dream, or the dream of any economy in my opinion, is rooted in its ability to do trial and error. Like look at our bankruptcy laws and how lenient they can be, that is a big reason behind the ability of people to hust go and start businesses I'd say.

but

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"The United States has long been one of the most mobile countries in the developed world. In the 1950s, about one-fifth of the American population moved each year. When factories would close, workers would move to other parts of the country to find jobs in new ones. Young people flocked to cities and rapidly growing suburbs, where jobs were plentiful and rent was cheap."


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"In 1957 you could move to a flophouse in New York just to try it out for a while,” said Tyler Cowen, a professor of economics at George Mason University"


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"It used to be that poorer places grew faster, but that’s gone,” said Jay Shambaugh, an economics professor at George Washington University. “This is a really different economy than it used to be. It’s one where places that struggle continue to struggle.”"


Now this of course can have to do with the maturity/stage of the economy itself but with a lot of systemic increases in costs, but it also has to do a lot with an increase in a lot of types of useless regulation and fees and what all.

This is best seen I believe in black americans, as there are lots of studies on them and they tend to be the unlucky ones in the group I'm talking about (not forgetting those many years of... slavery). Although white people in tiny towns sort of face the same to some extent.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/politics/inequality-black-americans-civil-rights-economic-progress

The best specific example of this in my opinion is racial segregation in DC due to low economic lobility due to regressive barriers - brooking's institution has a great article on this which would be perfect for that thread on "long reads". I'd link it but I can't find the exact one I was talking about, but there are many similar ones you can find with a google search.

This combines with my "subjective" opinion that the same phenomenon is occuring in things like patent law and really everything else theoigh cronyism. The best example (I've said this too many times) of which I believe is the Jones Act.

And I think, while of course this isn't something that changes overnight or even in a few years, this will have a psychological effect on the population itself - exacerbated by the internet - which will go understated in our future analyses.

Covid has shown some interesting things in regards to this with the amount of remote work going up a lot, a lot of businesses selling off office property, etc. And that adds such an interesting dynamic to this that we could talk for hours. And honestly we could do that for the above too cause the thing with economics is that every argument in some way is wrong cause there are so many factors and so much of everything that every position conflates one thing or rhis or that or whatever. But connecting back (this is unrelated to what you asked) to our discussion on the system being broken. You could very fairly say that this entire post proved that the system is broken. But to that I'd honestly say that it is just changing. And in a very big way, and that will hurt a lot of people, but in the long run I think we're doing well. I would say that I'm just doing semantics though cause at the end of the day we still have to fight the current broken system to achieve that long run and we would fight for that together regardless of whatever subjective opinions we hold on the future.

I don't have much actual experience regarding all this, so I may be off, but my two cents

[Edited on April 6, 2023 at 8:28 PM. Reason : I missed quite a few commas in there, sorry Frosh Killer]

4/6/2023 8:09:05 PM

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Pretty good answer!

4/9/2023 7:55:50 AM

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Apparently the Thomas donor has lots of nazi memorabilia and lots of conservative folks are trying to carry his water that he's just a history buff or some nonsense.

4/10/2023 3:32:20 PM

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the only way to truly remind yourself of the evils of the past is to spend a ton of money of memorabilia from those evils

everyone knows it

to get into the mind of someone like Hitler, one must buy an autographed copy of Mein Kampf

[Edited on April 10, 2023 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

4/10/2023 3:37:59 PM

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"Reading Mein Kampf and shaking my head the whole time so the people on the bus know I disagree with it"

https://twitter.com/metalgearobama/status/1344102150259974150

4/10/2023 3:51:17 PM

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Know anyone willing to buy some properties in Georgia?

4/13/2023 6:54:53 PM

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[long]

https://www.wral.com/story/in-which-conservative-justices-ponder-just-how-far-they-will-go/20810019/

4/14/2023 8:56:48 AM

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Nazi donor supports Sinema and Manchin too, not totally shocking.

4/20/2023 7:55:01 PM

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I know that it makes a certain sense given how most cases go and the given environment

but the conservative and liberal labels for justices really irritate me

4/20/2023 9:55:10 PM

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So the Catholic Mullahs are going to take their mifepristone ruling right up to midnight tonight? I guess it takes time to translate your religious texts and consult with all your financial “supporters” before releasing a decree.

4/21/2023 5:05:39 PM

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I suspect they let it go now but will smack it when the official case comes

4/21/2023 7:12:16 PM

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Thomas and Alito dissented, because of course they did.

[Edited on April 21, 2023 at 9:01 PM. Reason : Hey, 22000 posts!]

4/21/2023 9:00:20 PM

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/88xnw3/neil-gorsuch-colorado-property-sale-ethics

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"Neil Gorsuch is now under scrutiny. Just nine days after the Trump appointee was confirmed in 2017, a Colorado property partially owned by Gorsuch was sold to the chief executive of a top law firm that’s since had nearly two dozen cases come before Gorsuch and the Court, Politico reported Tuesday. "

4/25/2023 3:17:37 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/05/04/leonard-leo-clarence-ginni-thomas-conway/

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"Leo, a key figure in a network of nonprofits that has worked to support the nominations of conservative judges, told Conway that he wanted her to “give” Ginni Thomas “another $25K,” the documents show. He emphasized that the paperwork should have “No mention of Ginni, of course.”"

5/4/2023 7:53:54 PM

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Tell me what's going to happen from all this plz

5/4/2023 10:14:10 PM

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"absolutely nothing" has best odds with "symbolic oversight that amounts to nothing" a little behind

5/4/2023 11:01:55 PM

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https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/clarence-and-ginni-thomas/

5/11/2023 8:27:32 AM

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^that was very interesting, and disturbing. Unbelievable really

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/07/1180896886/supreme-court-financial-disclosure-reports

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"The justices of the U.S. Supreme Court released their financial disclosure reports for 2022 under the Ethics in Government Act on Wednesday, but Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito asked for — and were granted — extensions. The other seven justices managed to make the deadline.

Thomas's disclosure form had been eagerly awaited in the wake of news reports that documented previously undisclosed luxury travel worth hundreds of thousands of dollars paid for by Republican megadonor Harlan Crow, as well as other gifts and real estate deals with Crow.

But none of that was forthcoming on Wednesday, nor was any financial information from Justice Alito, who in previous years was the only justice to own lots of different stocks, as opposed to professionally managed mutual funds.

As for the seven justices who did make the deadline, all took advantage of ways that are permissible to add outside earning to their income under the Ethics in Government Act. But only one, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who joined the court last June, reported receiving any gifts: A $1,200 congratulatory flower arrangement from Oprah Winfrey, likely after Jackson's confirmation, and a $6,580 designer outfit she wore for a Vogue magazine photo shoot.

In 2022, the justices earned $274,000 a year, with the exception of the chief justice, who earned $286,000. But they are permitted to earn up to $30,000 for teaching. Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh did just that, earning close to the limit at George Mason University's Antonin Scalia School of Law. Justice Amy Coney Barrett did the same at Notre Dame law school.

The code of ethics spelled out under federal law for judges, and which the justices are committed to following, also allows them to be paid for books they write. Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who has earned over $3.6 million in book royalties and advances since being appointed to the court in 2009, reported earning $149,000 in book royalties in 2022. Justice Gorsuch, whose book deal after he joined the court earned him a total of $910,000, reported $277.51 in writing income in 2022. Justice Thomas, who got a reported $1.5 million advance money for his autobiography in 2003, has not reported royalty or other book income since then.

Some of the justices also earn rental income: Justice Sotomayor on the New York apartment she bought and lived in prior to joining the court; Chief Justice Roberts on his vacation homes in Maine and Ireland, and Justice Elena Kagan on a parking spot in Washington, D.C.


And then, of course, there is spousal income. Chief Justice Roberts' wife, Jane, who abandoned her own legal career in order to avoid potential conflicts of interest when her husband became chief justice, has come in for some criticism for the job she does now recruiting legal talent. Some critics have said this job too poses legal conflicts, though many ethics experts disagree. The chief justice, however, took the added step this year of clarifying on his disclosure form that his wife owns an equity stake in Macrae Inc., the recruiting company where she works. Jane Roberts acquired the equity stake in the firm when she started working there, the chief justice wrote, and at the time it was valued between $100,000 and $250,000.

Finally, the seven justices who filed disclosure forms on Wednesday each reported a half dozen trips or so to deliver speeches, with all the travel, sometimes abroad, paid for by the host entity."

6/8/2023 10:16:27 AM

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"BREAKING: In a surprise ruling, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, AFFIRMS a lower court ruling that found Alabama violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act by diluting Black people's votes with the state's redistricting plan."


Kavanaugh a dirt bag but actually seems slight more liberal then the big 4

6/8/2023 12:55:10 PM

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^^ interesting thx

6/8/2023 12:58:29 PM

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https://www.propublica.org/article/samuel-alito-luxury-fishing-trip-paul-singer-scotus-supreme-court

6/21/2023 12:20:38 AM

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Oh, so that's why he had to request an extension on releasing his financial disclosure agreements.

6/21/2023 2:54:00 PM

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Not sure if it goes here or liberal media thread, but Alito wrote a preemptive oped (paywalled) in the Washington post. Nice that we have to pay to know what a scotus justice thinks.

But also turns out it's all fine bc the private plane seat would have been empty, he was actually doing THEM a favor by filling it.


Thread has a direct link and snapshots
https://twitter.com/LeahLitman/status/1671296619537391617

[Edited on June 21, 2023 at 4:52 PM. Reason : E]

6/21/2023 4:51:55 PM

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‘‘twas the Wall Street Journal, not the Post

6/21/2023 6:05:33 PM

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Wall Street isn't even in Washington!

6/21/2023 7:52:12 PM

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Just think of how lonely that seat would have been if somebody's ass wasn't sitting in it! Think of the seat!

6/22/2023 3:31:42 PM

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