Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
State is in the process of hiring him per wral.
Quote : | "BREAKING NEWS: NC STATE IS IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING NORTHERN ILLINOIS COACH DAVE DOEREN AS THEIR HEAD FOOTBALL COACH, WRAL HAS LEARNED." |
Edit: Packpride is saying the press conference is tomorrow at 4:00 https://twitter.com/PackPride/status/274988636364210176
This has to be done to be fair to TOB
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM. Reason : ]12/1/2012 4:35:27 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
credible 12/1/2012 4:36:46 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
A hire I'm 100% in support of. Please be patient while he rebuilds. TOB will have left him with very little 12/1/2012 4:37:58 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Went 23-4 at Northern Illinios
+1 credibility 12/1/2012 4:39:12 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
I really like the hire too. But I think TOB left a team just as good as last years 12/1/2012 4:40:08 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Has a chance to go to a BCS bowl. Something Amato or TOB never did
^that has to be trolling
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM. Reason : D] 12/1/2012 4:40:19 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A hire I'm 100% in support of. Please be patient while he rebuilds. TOB will have left him with very little" |
I mean it should be a similar team to this year.. Minus glennon12/1/2012 4:41:38 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Dbl post suspend
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 4:42 PM. Reason : ~] 12/1/2012 4:41:38 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Not trolling being serious. 12/1/2012 4:44:15 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25421 Posts user info edit post |
Definitely a fan of this hire.
And as far as next year, we lose a very good QB and some O-Line. But the OL wasn't great to begin with. Losing Wolff and Bishop will hurt as well. I don't think that the cupboard is entirely bare, but I think most people tend to agree that next year (even if TOB stayed) was going to be a down year. 12/1/2012 4:44:33 PM |
Sweden All American 12288 Posts user info edit post |
still credible.
iop1 12/1/2012 4:45:13 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
^^^And amerson (we may be better off lol) biship, wolff, lucas, wilson, wallace , palmer, mattes, carter, slay, allen and wentz
By my count including glennon, we lose 11 starters and our depth (as we saw this year) is not great
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM. Reason : F] 12/1/2012 4:46:50 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Still have a good d-line dj green can play LB Burris will be an excellent corner. Byrd isn't too bad either The backup OL played well against FSU - they should be good starters We're returning decent receivers. Pete Thomas will be a good QB.
sand robot - I agree that TOB didn't leave a 12-0 team. But Doeren can go at least 7-5 12/1/2012 4:49:48 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Credible...FOR NOW 12/1/2012 4:50:38 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
^^ it's possible, the acc is going to suck next year 12/1/2012 4:51:38 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Only worried about maybe one safety spot.. And maybe Lucas.
\/ I assume stocker or Thomas are at least average..
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM. Reason : Hopefully] 12/1/2012 4:51:41 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean it should be a similar team to this year.. Minus glennon " |
So he left us a below .500 team12/1/2012 4:52:15 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
The safeties will be a big loss 12/1/2012 4:52:26 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
guys, wiki has it covered:
Quote : | "Dave Doeren (born December 3, 1971) is an American football coach and former player. He is currently the head football coach at North Carolina State University where he will lead them to a NCAA victory within the next few years. " |
12/1/2012 4:54:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25421 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "dj green can play LB" |
Good point, I had forgotten about him.
Losing Bishop and Wolff is gonna hurt a lot. The QB situation will be interesting to watch (Thomas/Stocker).12/1/2012 4:56:48 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
too bad the NCAA doesn't award football titles for 1A schools, guess we're going back to the SoCon 12/1/2012 4:56:58 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
We definitely don't have the talent to compete on either side of the ball next year.
Our offense was as one dimensional as you can get, and wasn't even that effective in that dimension. Take away an NFL signal caller and our offense was barely D1 quality this year. Next year it will be terrible unless Stocker is a Greek God.
A good defensive line is not enough to overcome a brand new secondary and barely D1 talent at LB.
Our special teams were also abysmal this year and given that TOB hasn't recruited enough talent to even play on starting units, I have to imagine our depth will be terrible as well.
On the other hand, this looks like a very strong hire. He's young so if he's successful we could have a good one on our hands for the next two decades. He has a great track record so far, and given how down the conference is right now we can definitely turn this program around in a few years time if he shows enough promise on the field to get us back in the recruiting mix. 12/1/2012 4:57:53 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25421 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@JFowlerCBS Doeren's compensation at N.C. State will start at around $1.8 million, per source. Competing schools drove up price this week" |
Quote : | " He's young so if he's successful we could have a good one on our hands for the next two decades." |
I mean, that's possible. But I think most people would agree that we're a stepping stone to a better college football coaching job.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:01 PM. Reason : n]12/1/2012 4:59:39 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Went 23-4 at Northern Illinios" |
Not as hard as it sounds, the previous coach had built things well at NIU. Still, I'm excited. To be honest I would have been pleased with most names that had been tossed around. Here's hoping he quickly finds players he can work with.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:05 PM. Reason : .]12/1/2012 5:01:48 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ our brand new secondary played a good amount, burriss, Byrd, dontae Johnson.. Just don't know who the other starter would be
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ~] 12/1/2012 5:02:14 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Good hire, but after watching his championship game last night I worry about how he manages finishing out games. His team heavily depended on a dual-threat QB which we have coming in (forget who, Stocker or Thomas) so we're pretty well equipped for his style of offense. 12/1/2012 5:02:38 PM |
CoachDoeren New Recruit 1 Posts user info edit post |
wtf lock this shit 12/1/2012 5:02:42 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
5 dollars well spent 12/1/2012 5:05:24 PM |
mdmurphy919 Veteran 415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Before becoming coach at Northern Illinois, Doeren spent five seasons at Wisconsin as the co-defensive coordinator, linebackers coach and recruiting coordinator." |
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8698510/dave-doeren-hired-north-carolina-state-wolfpack-coach
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM. Reason : ]12/1/2012 5:09:45 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
From the coaching search thread last night when I was watching the MAC Championship game:
Quote : | "One thing I didn't like about Doreen was that he let off the gas in the fourth quarter when up 14 points and like 13 minutes to go in the game. He burned 5 minutes but had to punt when bad playcalls put him out of field goal range. This let Kent State get their touchdown drive and 15 seconds later they got a turn over when Darlene went to run the ball more but had a bad hand off. He then rammed the ball down their throat for a TD but Kent State answered, and when Daren got the ball back with 44 seconds they gave up a sack and decided to just go to overtime.
Good game for Doeren up until the 4th quarter...that sounds familiar..." |
12/1/2012 5:12:13 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
the difference is he went on to win the game instead of making a series of bonehead calls and showing no leadership or ability to get the team together and win the game 12/1/2012 5:13:40 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
iop1 of a thread that is going to have all the credibles. 12/1/2012 5:14:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25421 Posts user info edit post |
From PP:
Quote : | "Might as well have kept TOB. We have a MAC coach which is just about a D2 level coach with no contacts in NC, or any other southern state to recruit. Sorry, but I think it is a bad hire. IF you really want to win in today's football world and take championships and be consitantly ranked you do not hire a mid level coach with no recruiting contacts in the area." |
Never change, Pack Pride.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM. Reason : d]12/1/2012 5:20:04 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
Iop1 with all the credibles 12/1/2012 5:21:00 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I think most people would agree that we're a stepping stone to a better college football coaching job. " |
The last time we lost a coach to a better job was 1979 and he died the next month so I have no idea where you got this idea. Everyone has either been fired or retired.12/1/2012 5:23:01 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Agreed
From http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8698510/dave-doeren-hired-north-carolina-state-wolfpack-coach
Quote : | "My family and I can't wait to get to Raleigh and become Wolfpackers. " |
-1 credibility12/1/2012 5:23:20 PM |
Novicane All American 15413 Posts user info edit post |
Iop1 credible 12/1/2012 5:23:43 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
FLIGHT TRACKING
via bmel's brother: http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=604053
12/1/2012 5:25:37 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25421 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Because we haven't had a coach good enough to warrant any interest from bigger, better schools. If Doeren proves to be successful enough to stick around for a couple of decades (your words) then I assume he'd attract interest from other schools. It's a moot point right now though...he was hired just hours ago.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:26 PM. Reason : d] 12/1/2012 5:25:52 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
fucking idiot show on PP 12/1/2012 5:27:04 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " He's young so if he's successful we could have a good one on our hands for the next two decades" |
12/1/2012 5:27:58 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But I think most people would agree that we're a stepping stone to a better college football coaching job. " |
If he does well enough, it can start making NC State a more attractive destination for coaches. Even so, I really don't think it would be all that hard to retain a good coach that does well here. I would assume it would bring in a lot more money and support to a program that's already got a great supporting fanbase despite having so many years of mediocre results.12/1/2012 5:30:03 PM |
jbtilley All American 12796 Posts user info edit post |
iop1
Best of luck to you. 12/1/2012 5:30:18 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“@TheWolfpacker: Nothern Illinois players apparently gave Dave Doeren a standing ovation as he was departing the complex. #Respect” " |
12/1/2012 5:32:24 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
That's some really sweet shit right there. 12/1/2012 5:35:49 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
I heard when TOB got fired, James Washington smoked an L with Dana Bible as TOB was departing the complex.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM. Reason : c] 12/1/2012 5:39:18 PM |
APCrook All American 1447 Posts user info edit post |
love that this guy has a big ten background.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM. Reason : can't remember ever being this excited about ncsu football] 12/1/2012 5:40:00 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
we about to "GET IT DOEREN" 12/1/2012 5:45:32 PM |
emory All American 1000 Posts user info edit post |
I have absolutely no information that could lead me to the conclusion that this guy will be able to out-recruit Tom O'Brien's staff.
^^^^If anyone on our coaching staff was smoking weed, I would have to guess it was Mike Archer.
[Edited on December 1, 2012 at 5:49 PM. Reason : .] 12/1/2012 5:47:36 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "For the second straight year, the Huskies rank among the top five FBS teams in student-athlete Academic Progress Rate (APR), the national metric used by the NCAA to gauge a team’s academic success.
Doeren’s dedication to academic excellence is unmatched. Northern Illinois is the only school in the nation to have a player win the National Football Foundation Scholar-Athlete Award in both 2011 and 2012. Huskies’ two-year starting noseguard, Nabal Jefferson, was named one of 15 winners of the 2012 NFF Scholar-Athlete Award, and is a candidate for the 2012 William V. Campbell Trophy, awarded to the best scholar athlete in the nation. Additionally, Northern Illinois join Duke, Penn State and Nebraska as one of only four schools in the country to place four players on the 2012 Capital One Academic All-District Team for its region." |
+10000 for winning on and off the field12/1/2012 5:47:59 PM |