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republicans are overwhelmingly voting for him, though

4/24/2016 1:03:00 PM

rjrumfel
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Just about every Republican I know isn't voting for Trump, and doesn't want to vote for Cruz either.

4/24/2016 8:01:43 PM

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there's plenty of Republicans that won't vocally express support for Trump due to fears of backlash, but they are voting for him.

4/24/2016 9:46:31 PM

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8 page thread about 6 year olds pissing.

[Edited on April 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM. Reason : Surely this can't be reality.]

4/25/2016 9:56:43 AM

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"Just about every Republican I know isn't voting for Trump, and doesn't want to vote for Cruz either."


This is what I have noticed, but clearly plenty of people are and just not being vocal about it or straight lying.

4/25/2016 10:01:50 AM

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Back on topic. What is the definition of transgender?

5/11/2016 11:25:25 AM

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webster's Terdster's Dictionary: people with non-binary gender/sex identities whom conservative politicians feel compelled to demonize in order to unite their constituencies behind their visionless, mediocre leadership. See also "those people" and "them icky queers."

5/11/2016 12:01:26 PM

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Incredibly beneficial contribution to the conversation. Thanks.

5/11/2016 12:04:04 PM

TerdFerguson
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I mean does google not work on your computer? Or are you trying to lay out some some trap for a legalese semantics argument that basically amounts to "transgender people don't exist"?

5/11/2016 12:08:43 PM

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perhaps she going to make the point that the civil rights laws dont mention transgenders and obama admin makin shit up

[Edited on May 11, 2016 at 12:17 PM. Reason : congress should make new legislation to address the issue imo ]

5/11/2016 12:15:21 PM

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True, that is a legalese semantics argument,and I think you may be right about the ultimate outcome there.

But discriminating against a group of people because it hasn't expressly been forbidden by the Federal government isn't what I'd want to hang my hat on either.

5/11/2016 1:23:19 PM

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article84889307.html

mecklenburg county giving middle finger to state legislators. will be interesting to see if they do anything about it.

6/22/2016 7:16:25 AM

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The military might be at odds with the state now

7/1/2016 10:30:02 PM

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BTTT. Anyone been following Professor Jordan Peterson from Univ. Toronto? If not, he's been speaking out against proposed legislation in Canada. His recent podcast with Joe Rogan is below - thought it may be relevant to this thread.

https://youtu.be/04wyGK6k6HE

12/8/2016 7:55:30 PM

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^he was on tom woods too if someone wants 30 mins condensed version

http://tomwoods.com/ep-773-psychology-professor-resists-gender-identity-crowd-gets-attacked/

[Edited on December 10, 2016 at 6:46 PM. Reason : d]

12/10/2016 6:44:33 PM

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He makes a lot of good points. Legislating language is a dangerous, dangerous precedent to set regardless of any good intentions that might be behind it (though in this case it's pretty clearly intended as a club to punish wrongthink). Hate speech laws, holocaust denial laws, blasphemy laws, mandating pronoun usage... they're all fucking horrible.

12/10/2016 11:12:08 PM

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All I'll say is that I'm glad someone is looking out for all those confused 4 year olds.

http://www.wral.com/transgender-day-camp-among-first-to-include-4-year-olds/16863684/

[Edited on August 7, 2017 at 1:53 PM. Reason : sda]

8/7/2017 1:42:04 PM

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oh heavens no

how dare a camp exists that lets kids be whoever they wanna be

8/7/2017 2:13:50 PM

rjrumfel
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If a boy wants to wear a dress? Fine by me. My daughter plays with "boy" toys all the time. We don't fuss at her, we don't tell her it is wrong, but we also don't push it on her to go and try things outside her gender.

I have a feeling that's what these kids would get at this camp/daycare/whatever it is.

8/7/2017 2:26:01 PM

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This is real progress folks.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/entertainment/nicole-maines-supergirl/index.html

First transgender super hero. Gonna be a big hit.

7/23/2018 8:40:03 PM

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are you upset everything isn’t made to specifically appeal to you? Or am I missing something.

7/23/2018 8:50:56 PM

thegoodlife3
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you against it?

7/23/2018 8:51:31 PM

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Shoulda remade “Hedwig and the Angry Inch” instead.

7/23/2018 9:02:09 PM

rjrumfel
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^^I guess I'm don't really care one way or the other. I mean we probably have had, over the years, over a hundred shows/movies about super heroes, and not one has been transgendered, so if you were to apply that to current population breakdowns, then I guess it is about time. Approximately .3 percent of the population is transgendered, so I would expect that .3 percent of superhero depictions in popular culture would also be transgendered.

7/23/2018 9:35:09 PM

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have you been interested in representation percentages in the past or is this your first foray into the field?

7/23/2018 11:23:33 PM

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rjrumple is the King of saying "i don't really care...[BUT I OBVIOUSLY REALLY CARE]"

he's also at least pretty high up in the charts for "i don't like so and so...[BUT HERE'S A BUNCH OF WORDS DEFENDING SO AND SO]

7/23/2018 11:48:21 PM

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Superheros make up 0.0 percent of the population.

[Edited on July 23, 2018 at 11:52 PM. Reason : O.O]

7/23/2018 11:51:25 PM

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^ you stole my next post

7/24/2018 12:11:26 AM

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^^That's usually when it comes to Trump, because I don't like him, but I also think some of the things that the media and the left does to him are going to hurt chances of a different president in 2020, so, while it may come off as defending Trump, I actually am defending the chance that we can change things in the next election.

This whole "lets throw a bunch of stories at the wall and hope it sticks" plan isn't working. It is all big news for a few days, it goes away, he still acts like Trump, and it all happens all over again 48 hours later.

He's like teflon Don.

7/24/2018 9:39:35 AM

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""lets throw a bunch of stories at the wall and hope it sticks""


A lot of that is just called investigating and reporting. It's what journalists have always done.

7/24/2018 9:57:59 AM

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But have you not noticed a pattern as to when these stories break? And when they do, there's a small whirlwind of "OMG did you see what he did now??" And then nothing. He'll tweet some stuff, his base goes nuts, the left goes nuts, nothing happens, and then he creates a new shitshow to cover up the last.

Rinse and repeat.

The only thing that could get him, maybe, is what is on those 12 recordings that Cohen has. But I doubt it. He's too well insulated in Congress, and pretty soon, on the SCOTUS as well.

7/24/2018 10:01:42 AM

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/21/australia/laurel-hubbard-olympics-transgender-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

How is this even remotely fair?

6/21/2021 12:33:39 PM

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because the IOC and other governing bodies have a specific testosterone policy and she qualified under that policy

[Edited on June 21, 2021 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2021 12:42:27 PM

rjrumfel
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I'm sure that the years of competing/training on the male level hasn't given her any edge at all

6/21/2021 3:03:42 PM

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I'm not sure, so explain to me how you are sure.

Or am I (someone not making assertions of any kind) supposed to "do the research" to explain it to you (someone who is making assertions).

6/21/2021 3:23:28 PM

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The Olympics: long known the pinnacle of "fairness"

6/21/2021 3:33:48 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^^ she transitioned 8 years ago and was eligible to compete in the 2016 Olympics but didn’t make the team

yet again, you’re letting your bigotry get in the way of logic

[Edited on June 21, 2021 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2021 3:40:22 PM

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Ppl born a male shouldn’t compete as women in olympics. Sorry not sorry. But you be you

6/22/2021 1:28:07 AM

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Why not

6/22/2021 7:17:59 AM

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i think an obvious example would be that if someone like Usain Bolt decided to identify as a woman to run in the Olympics, it wouldn't be fair to the other competitors because they'd have no chance due to age physiological differences

6/22/2021 12:37:36 PM

thegoodlife3
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good thing there’s a much higher standard than only identifying, then

6/22/2021 12:44:00 PM

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"https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/21/australia/laurel-hubbard-olympics-transgender-intl-hnk-spt/index.html

How is this even remotely fair?"


This person transitioned at the age of 35, having fully gone through adulthood as a male with testosterone, lifting the whole way and building the muscle/skeletal base of strength.

Transitions, becomes the best female division weightlifter in NZ, by far. Like, the 2nd place isn't close.

Crazy coincidence! Trans women are women though.

[Edited on June 22, 2021 at 2:24 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2021 2:06:19 PM

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^You're just being blinded by your bigotry.

6/23/2021 8:11:35 AM

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"because the IOC and other governing bodies have a specific testosterone policy and she qualified under that policy"


and that policy is BS because it puts a cap at testosterone of 10 nmol/L, but women born as females who are elite athletes don't go above 2 nmol/L. seriously, look at those numbers again.

yes, very fair.

it is stupendously ignorant and mind-boggling that so many 'woke' people today think that a man transitioning into a woman as a fully grown adult does not carry over massive physiological, morphological, and biomechanical advantages from having grown in the womb as a male (bathed in testosterone) and having gone through puberty and teenage years as a male. nor any advantages from all the training done as a male, which is far different from the training done by women, both in load and volume, which further widen the gap between men and women.

they really need to create a separate category for transgender men and women to compete in sports.

so many professional athletes have spoken up against her being allowed to compete with women... yes, it's because they are all 'transphobic' and hate trans people! just gotta be that... can't be any other reason! cancel them all for transsphobia!!!

it's just like if you criticize israhell, you are anti-semitic!


[Edited on June 23, 2021 at 11:40 AM. Reason : trans women are women but are MALES, and trans men are men but are FEMALES -- trans people say this!]

6/23/2021 11:39:27 AM

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pretty fitting that the three users above this post are all in agreement

damn proud to not be in that club

6/23/2021 1:09:18 PM

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^ what a rebuttal.

some more observations about this issue and its discussion:

-- whenever i see some people on FB/Twitter/YT objecting to transgender people being allowed to compete with cisgender people, i never fail to also notice the extreme so-called 'woke' people resorting to ad hominem and attacking the characters of those objecting, rather than actually responding to their points. the usual snide remark is along the lines of, "oh you suddenly care about women's sports now" or "since you care about women so much, what have you done to help women?", with the undertone being "you are a misogynistic, religious nutjob who hates women so stop pretending that you care about women's sports". sure enough, some actually straight up say that. what makes these "woke" people think they can impute right-wing religious and political views upon the objectors? i thought "woke" people were logical and refrained from false accusations? not all people who object are right-wing. many are, indeed, liberals. but it's just easier to simply paint any objection as transphobia... makes the screaming at and insulting objectors easier.

-- talking of logic, another 'rebuttal' i frequently notice is along the lines of "but there are already stronger women and weaker women, so what about them?" or even asking how that natural variation in women is different from letting trans women compete against born-women. seriously, are y'all that ignorant and illogical?

-- caitlyn jenner: is she a self-loathing transphobe? is she a conservative, religious nutjob? that's what you "woke" people should say, right? pretty sure she knows a thing or two about being a trans woman and also competing in sports.

-- did y'all watch sarah silverman (she resorted to all the 'refutations' and personal attacks mentioned above) insult and excoriate jenner for saying trans women should not be allowed to compete with born women? she sounded utterly stupid and ignorant, made irrelevant and false comparisons and analogies, and couldn't even string a proper coherent thought together. i don't know who this rubin guy is, but his analysis of silverman's bizarre rant is spot on; listen to sarah and his breakdown of it: https://youtu.be/c_qnJQG5aGE?t=1241 that's a must listen to see the ugliness (and sheer stupidity and ignorance) inside her.

6/23/2021 2:56:48 PM

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The arguments for trans women competing with actual women (not gonna say cisgendered) is that testosterone can't be proven to give a competitive edge.

So if that's the case, why have any sport based on gender? Let women join the NFL. Let men compete in women's soccer.

Let's tear down those walls people!

6/24/2021 12:52:50 PM

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When you support women so much, you eliminate their opportunities to compete in sports.

Horseshoe theory strikes again.

6/24/2021 1:51:43 PM

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What about cater semenya? Is it fair that she essentially has to take inhibitors? Is it fair that LeBron James gets to compete against men with lower t levels? If a man's t level is low enough should he compete with women? Should we eliminate gender from all categories and just have t levels like weight classes?

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Yes

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"you eliminate their opportunities to compete in sports."


Side eye gif

6/24/2021 2:35:39 PM

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"The arguments for trans women competing with actual women (not gonna say cisgendered) is that testosterone can't be proven to give a competitive edge."


That's not what they say because otherwise they wouldn't have an upper limit on T levels. So, they acknowledge that T levels do confer an advantage, but the upper limit on T levels for trans women is several fold higher than the max level that is found in elite female athletes, which is very unfair.

The argument is that taking estrogen and/or T blockers for a year is enough to reverse the effects of your body bathing in T for decades, which is a completely anti-scientific and, frankly, very stupid argument. They say the advantages are eroded nearly completely by the hormone therapy. Fucking idiots.

It is simple: we need new categories for male women (trans women) and female men (trans men). Or maybe a single category for them. I wonder who would be better at sports requiring speed and/or strength, trans men or trans women.

6/24/2021 4:16:53 PM

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