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"the officer had already lawyered up and even made a statement."


Before the video surfaced?

4/8/2015 2:34:24 PM

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"I am of the opinion that the police chiefs in SC are only charging the officers because they do not want to deal with the fall out."


They're charging him because he shot someone in the back...ON CAMERA.

I'm not disagreeing that cops do bad shit that gets covered up all the time...but you guys are being fucking retarded with this shit.

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"Before the video surfaced?"


yes

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 2:36 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2015 2:35:39 PM

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That is my point, the medical examiner already knew the guy was shot in the back before the video surfaced, so why was the cop not charged already.

The news is also reporting the taser probes were in his back, which means he was tased in the back, which would contradict the cops story that he took the taser, how did she shoot himself in the back with the taser probes?

4/8/2015 2:48:17 PM

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""I am of the opinion that the police chiefs in SC are only charging the officers because they do not want to deal with the fall out."


They're charging him because he shot someone in the back...ON CAMERA.
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It's a little bit of both. There's other videos of cops doing wrong things on camera, and the cop doesn't get charged. John Crawford and Tamir Rice come to mind.

^ I'm assuming those questions are rhetorical? We all know why, in the absence of video, those questions would have never been asked.

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2015 2:51:52 PM

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"That is my point, the medical examiner already knew the guy was shot in the back before the video surfaced, so why was the cop not charged already.
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Because of the cop's statement obviously. You have a statement contradicting evidence...so you need an investigation. You can't just charge him immediately. He knew what was coming...he was lawyered up.

Once the video came up, the statement was proven to be false and he was charged.

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2015 2:53:20 PM

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We are definitely not being retarded with this shit.

Black people have been reporting about this activity in their neighborhoods for decades. The emergence of widespread recording equipment has demonstrated that the overall theme of their messages was 100% true. Police have been harassing them, beating them, robbing them, lying, planting evidence, and even taking their lives by way of prison and murder. And it's hurt their families and communities.

This guy had trouble making child support...well, now, there are four kids with no father at all.

And if we had no resources and no voice, they'd do it to us, too.

This is bad.

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 3:03 PM. Reason : Very bad.]

4/8/2015 3:01:22 PM

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To the two points that someone made on the previous page regarding cops messing with their antennas or turning off the cameras.

1. They have black boxes that can record pretty much everything that happens in a car, I'm sure they could add this to the mix to ensure they are not tampered with.
2. If a cop gets out of his/her car, then the camera comes on and stays on until back in the car, period. If anything else happens, then there should be some type of punishment for the cop.

Cameras are only as good as their perspective though. If a person gets close enough to a cop to take a weapon, then a body camera would not have the proper perspective to record it. I guss there would be sound, but no video.

4/8/2015 3:01:46 PM

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thegoodlife3: "hey rumfel quit taking the cops side you stupid fuck. you like romney and stuff."

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 3:03 PM. Reason : hey y0willy shut the fuck up you dont like sylvan esso. dumbass republicans.]

4/8/2015 3:03:10 PM

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^^^ I don't think I was referring to anything that you said in your post with my statement. I was talking about the fact that this cop was in trouble before the video came out and that after the video came out that he wasn't being charged just because of the situation in America today....he's being charged because he shot a dude five times in the back. Re-read what I quoted and responded to.

BTW...here is an article on his former attorney (the guy I know), who dropped him when the video came out:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/08/exclusive-michael-slager-s-attorney-dumped-him-as-soon-as-he-saw-video.html

So yes...he lawyered up with one of the best criminal attorneys in the area when this shit first went down. I'm not saying he wasn't going to get away with it...I'm just saying that you don't automatically lawyer up with one of the big boys if you don't think shit is about to blow up. A dude got shot five times in the back (and now they are saying he was tasered)...this would have taken a MONUMENTAL effort to sweep under the rug.



And this should get better (from an information standpoint). Apparently SLED has dashcam footage of the shooting:

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2015/04/08/summey-sled-has-dash-cam-footage-of-walter-scott-shooting

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2015 3:04:42 PM

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People keep mentioning the CPD, but isn't North Charleston a completely separate entity?

4/8/2015 3:17:01 PM

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It is. It's also ghetto as fuck in a lot of areas. It's ranked in some top 10 crime lists nationally in recent years. There are some nice areas in it though...and it will eventually be taken over by the Charleston sprawl in be really nice and 20 or 30 years.

But yeah...it should be the NCPD. Don't lump me in with that cesspool.

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2015 3:18:36 PM

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we need dtownral and thegoldenrul up in here to complete this goatfuck of a thread.

4/8/2015 3:19:10 PM

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I wonder if that cop is getting his ass beat in prison.

4/8/2015 3:26:24 PM

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^^perhaps you should post a relevant Seinfeld quote

(but I don't see what's wrong with the thread)

4/8/2015 3:49:55 PM

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Does thegoldenrul even post anymore?

I'm pretty sure he left after shoot completely dominated him as the dumbest Asian.

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 4:11 PM. Reason : -]

4/8/2015 3:55:59 PM

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i suppose, looking back, the "Don't tase me, bro" guy got off pretty easy.

4/8/2015 4:35:02 PM

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"So yes...he lawyered up with one of the best criminal attorneys in the area when this shit first went down. I'm not saying he wasn't going to get away with it...I'm just saying that you don't automatically lawyer up with one of the big boys if you don't think shit is about to blow up."


If you are involved in a critical situation (shooting, major accident, etc) and a member of a professional organization (FOP, PBA, etc) you have access to a lawyer who is kept on retainer. Sometimes they suck, sometimes they are top notch, well known defense attorneys.

4/8/2015 4:42:01 PM

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"we need dtownral and thegoldenrul up in here to complete this goatfuck of a thread."

i'm not entirely clear what that means, but i've already posted in this one

fuck the police, there are no good cops

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 6:07 PM. Reason : none]

4/8/2015 6:06:55 PM

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"But yeah...it should be the NCPD. Don't lump me in with that cesspool."

the last time i was in north Charleston every black person called me sir like it was the 1950's, totally creepy

4/8/2015 6:11:31 PM

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^ That pretty much goes for all of Charleston. It's either "sir", "bossman", or "boss".

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"If you are involved in a critical situation (shooting, major accident, etc) and a member of a professional organization (FOP, PBA, etc) you have access to a lawyer who is kept on retainer. Sometimes they suck, sometimes they are top notch, well known defense attorneys.
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Is that same attorney allowed to dump you when the shit hits the fan?

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2015 6:30:34 PM

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^^That's a shame. I wouldn't wanna live in a world without overly familiar black people who dole out mysteriously prescient life advice.

Without God or astrology, I kinda need my Bagger Vance.

4/8/2015 6:45:52 PM

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"Charleston attorney David Aylor told The Daily Beast that he took on Slager as a client on Saturday, the day of the shooting, and removed himself as counsel on Tuesday afternoon."


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"You were quoted as Officer Slager's attorney in the aftermath of this high-profile shooting but before the video came out. Now you're not his attorney anymore. What happened?"


So while he hadn't been charged prior to the video, shit was going down in some fashion and charges probably were [hopefully] not far out, right? Are there any statements from the NCPD prior to the video? I imagine there is the standard "we're investigating, he's on paid admin duty" message and that's it.

4/8/2015 6:48:58 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out why I'm a dumbass for taking the cops side in the Mike Brown case, but not this one.

I'll be very interested to see what kind of time this guy ends up doing. Pretty sure everybody is getting tired of hearing about cops being involved with shootings of unarmed suspects, so they might try to make an example out of him.

I mean, this guy was running away. They knew who he was. Why not just let him go and get him later, if warranted?

4/8/2015 7:17:09 PM

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Can you fault them for saying sir, when the first thing you see when crossing into SC is the confederate flag right next to the state flag.

4/8/2015 7:26:00 PM

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"Only stupid racists, can watch a video of a man getting shot running away from a cop and try to justify it."


Same goes for 3 Muslims getting killed by a white dude in Chapel Hill. According to GOLO, it definitely can't be race/hate-related.

"Oh, it was a parking dispute. They shouldn't have parked there in the first place."
"Oh, he had mental health problems. Nothing more to see, move along people."

4/8/2015 7:45:58 PM

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The mayor says the cop was fired

4/8/2015 7:47:26 PM

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the only evidence I've seen is the video, and from that this most definitely looks like the officer straight up murdered the guy.

I don't care if the victim was a saint or an asshole... an officer of the law shooting a man in the back like he did is hard impossible to justify. I can think of only a very few reasons where it could possibly be ok for a cop to shoot a guy jogging away from them... they were about to attack another person... they had a gun shoved up their ass using a sphincter trigger... and that's about it. (and neither appear to be the case here.)

This is bad obviously for the victim, but also drives a huge wedge of mistrust between a large segment of society and law enforcement officers (in a time where it is already a major problem). I'm glad they didn't waste [too much] time filing charges on the killer.

I wonder if there is some larger criminal element at work here (organized crime/gang hit with officer taking a cut?)... or if the cop was just an idiot/asshole?

[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2015 7:47:44 PM

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The only criminal element here is a cop trying to cover up a murder.

4/8/2015 7:56:12 PM

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well yes. that and the murder its self. it just seems so absurd/horrifying to me how blatantly unjustified and contemptible this murder was... wondering if there could be others that would face some sort of conspiracy or accessory charges.

was the cops partner visible in the video before the shots were fired?

4/8/2015 8:01:29 PM

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So I think I read somewhere that this cop was previously exonerated from accusations of police brutality against a black guy before. Maybe this guy just looked at black people as less than people, not deserving of respect, dignity, or life. Maybe this guy just didn't fucking care, or only cared enough after the fact to try a cover up.

I'm not saying he went out on the beat that day thinking "I'm going to kill me a nigger today". But I do think that he was operating with a complete disregard for human life, and the victim's skin color may have had something to do with that.

I obviously don't know what happened, but it is hard to imagine how a traffic stop can turn into this shit, without any opportunities to diffuse the situation.

4/8/2015 8:46:42 PM

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This has probably been discussed...

but how was the guy making the video not noticed by the cops? They weren't even aware of the existence of the video till it surfaced.

Doesn't seem like the guy was far away and using zoom, it seems like he was right there by the fence.

4/8/2015 8:53:05 PM

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Yeah I wondered the same. Maybe it was a kid and he was acting like he was looking at his phone and not filming them or something.

4/8/2015 8:54:35 PM

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Absolutely irrelevant to the discussion, but the guys buttons on his jail shirt were off in the picture they keep posting in the media...his stripes don't match and it bothers me.

4/8/2015 9:08:49 PM

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4/8/2015 9:27:06 PM

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"So I think I read somewhere that this cop was previously exonerated from accusations of police brutality against a black guy before. Maybe this guy just looked at black people as less than people, not deserving of respect, dignity, or life. Maybe this guy just didn't fucking care, or only cared enough after the fact to try a cover up."

makes me sick.

4/8/2015 9:37:43 PM

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you know he won't be convicted

4/8/2015 11:42:01 PM

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^^^ hahaha, damn

4/8/2015 11:51:28 PM

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"you know he won't be convicted"


They will do a plea agreement for jaywalking or something.

4/9/2015 12:20:21 AM

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"And this should get better (from an information standpoint). Apparently SLED has dashcam footage of the shooting:

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2015/04/08/summey-sled-has-dash-cam-footage-of-walter-scott-shooting
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If this is true, then this was a coverup from the top down.

I hope the justice department does a thorough investigation of the entire department over this.

4/9/2015 12:32:30 AM

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http://www.salon.com/2015/04/08/it_wasnt_just_walter_scott_the_north_charleston_police_department_has_a_shocking_record_of_abuse_allegations/

Pretty bad track record for these guys.

4/9/2015 1:15:29 AM

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4/9/2015 1:31:32 AM

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I don't know why everyone thinks this cop is going to get off. If anything, he will get the most severe punishment possible. An example will be made of this guy.

And the unspoken message behind whatever he gets is probably going to be "we still don't care what you do, just don't get caught doing it, or this will happen to you".

4/9/2015 7:17:08 AM

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This cop was too bold, he should of taken the recording prior to planting the evidence. Dirty cop 101.

4/9/2015 7:29:33 AM

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"So I think I read somewhere that this cop was previously exonerated from accusations of police brutality against a black guy before. Maybe this guy just looked at black people as less than people, not deserving of respect, dignity, or life."


You think you might be a little dramatic here?

Regardless, here's the cop's background:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/walter-scott-shooting/michael-slager-n337691

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"Documents released by the force show that one complaint in January 2015 involving failure to file a police report was sustained — though it was unclear what disciplinary action Slager faced, if any."


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"Slager was cleared of another complaint regarding use of force. In that case, a man alleged Slager had used his Taser for no reason and slammed him to the ground in September 2013. The officer was exonerated upon investigation, documents from the North Charleston Police Department show."



The cop has now retained THE most famous defense attorney in Charleston, Andy Savage. He's the Matlock of the lowcountry.

http://www.kptv.com/story/28753053/solicitor-releases-statement-on-charges-against-officer-in-walter-scotts-death

[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 7:47 AM. Reason : .]

4/9/2015 7:46:58 AM

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Apparently that case of police brutality I mentioned earlier was when Slager was accused of shooting someone with a taser for no reason. he was exonerated, even though the guy he shot wasn't a suspect in the crime.

4/9/2015 7:48:00 AM

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^^He can retain the best attorney in America. No one's gonna save him when its caught on video. He shot a man in the back, he planted evidence, and he lied on his police report. These are all facts.

4/9/2015 7:59:07 AM

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Yep, the best lawyer in the world isn't going to save this guy, not with that video.

4/9/2015 8:02:58 AM

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Eh... haven't the time today

[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM. Reason : j]

4/9/2015 8:13:50 AM

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I wouldn't hold my breath. Fill the jury with some old-money, pearl clutching grey hairs and knuckle dragging swamp people from N. Berkeley county and you can probably convince them of anything

[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM. Reason : It helps that the prosecuter won't really be interested in justice. ]

[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM. Reason : Autocorrect my ass]

4/9/2015 8:13:58 AM

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^The media hasn't started the victim character assassination yet, we must wait until they did up the skeletons in the dead guys closet before we celebrate this cop getting real time.

If victim has ever been to jail cop will get off with a tap on his wrists.

4/9/2015 8:16:42 AM

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